• Wed, Jun 18 - 12:32 pm ET

Turns Out Jelena May Have Been Drinking And Drugging All The Way Back In 2012

Justin Bieber Selena Gomez July 2013Hi, have we met? I’m that person who’s been saying for forever that Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez are on a very dangerous path, both together and separately. And you, you’re the person who always yells at me for saying they’re not in a good place! Or maybe you’re not that person, but if you’re reading this site right now, chances are good that you’ve come across them at some point.

Anyway, this is the moment when I get to say ‘I told you so’ and you get to say ‘I’m so sorry Alexis, you’ve been right all along’, because Radar has new information claiming that as far back as September 2012, Jelena was drinking beer and smoking weed on the way to Knott’s Scary Farm in Buena Park, California. According to a source who claims to have been present:

“They hotboxed and drank Heinekens from the fridge Justin keeps in the van. There was no bong or anything, just Justin rolling his own burrito-sized joints. I mean, fucking huge.”

They even have photos of that night, which feature Justin and Selena, obviously, as well as Secret Life of the American Teenager actress Francia Raisa and one of Selena’s backup dancers, Charity Baroni. And before you say that Selena was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, you should know that it sounds like she was definitely partaking:

“Everyone smoked, including Selena. We smoked at least six joints and were high as a kite by the time we rolled into Knotts.”

Innnnteresting, no? That was a long time ago, and it sounds like Justin was already pretttty experienced rolling joints, and the fact that Selena wasn’t turning her nose up at any of it then makes it seem pretty unlikely that partying wasn’t one of the causes for her rehab stay earlier this year. Things can escalate pretty far in sixteen months, y’know?

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  • somebodytolove10394

    why dont you stop your hate rants i agree weed is bad but everyone does it dont just point at him im sure youve done bad stuff in life too you just didnt have haters its not easy you know…

    • M_G

      The difference, of course, being that Justin Bieber a) is a celebrity, and as such has opened his life to public scrutiny, b) should recognize that he has an impressionable fan base (and no, not everyone “does it”, but Bieber isn’t helping with those statistics) and c) is vastly overshadowing his talent with this and many, many other poor decisions and general douchbaggery.

    • Valerie

      Make friends with punctuation.

  • Isabelle

    That’s their prerogative. Underage drinking and weed smoking? How shocking!

    • M_G

      Yes, it is their prerogative. Just like it is ours to call them out for it, which I feel is justified because while yes, unfortunately, a lot of teenagers do stupid things like this, not everyone is a huge celebrity with impressionable fans to consider.

    • Isabelle

      Well the activities they do in their own home or car is their business. I’ve said it before and I know this isn’t a very popular opinion but the people that are that impressionable, to the point where they emulate celebrities, probably don’t get a lot of substantial guidance in their life and it’s not someone in the public eye to guide them or raise them. I don’t see the point of judging celebrities harsher than people you see day to day. They didn’t ask for the scrunity just because their in the public eye. That’s the same as saying that your neighbor asked for judgement by leaving his house, therefore we can all judge the different/odd etc etc choices he makes. “If he didn’t want me judging his outfit, he should have not worn that shirt!” Etc. I honestly think people judge celebrities as a way of taking them off their pedestle, even though we put them there in the first place.

    • M_G

      “They didn’t ask for the scrutiny just because their in the public eye.” GAH! See, this is where you and I disagree. This is the price of living your life in the public spotlight. It’s part of being rich and powerful and famous. Expectations of privacy (especially in a world dominated by recording devices and numerous social media outlets) are much, much harder to justify for celebrities because of this fact. Your neighbor leaving the house isn’t subjecting his choices to millions of other people. I am not going to feel pity for celebrities who get called out for poor decision making. They shouldn’t be judged against average teenagers/young adults because THEY ARE NOT average teenagers/young adults. It’s the other side of the same reality that also allows them to live rich and fabulous lives.

    • Isabelle

      But you’re never entitled to judge another person. Its egotistical to me for people to say that they are. Its a choice you make based on of your character. I think it’s frustrating that the ethics of this can almost never be debated. They are human beings, just the same as us and even if they live the life of privilege that many want doesn’t mean that what we’re doing isn’t bullying because I honestly think that it is.

    • M_G

      Then let me ask you a question, in all seriousness: let’s take any random celebrity (not necessarily Selena or Justin). What is the appropriate reaction to have if they repeatedly make the same bad decisions wthi no distinguishable display of having learned from their mistakes? Bearing in mind that, while it’s fair or not, their lives are under the microscope and accessible to millions around the world. Is it better to continue ignoring it, or hoping it gets better eventually, or worse, to continue making excuses for them? I don’t think calling someone out for bad decisions is tantamount to bullying them. I respect that you disagree with me about that last point, but I am curious as to your opinion on this.

    • Isabelle

      It would all depend on what they were doing and how often. I avoid articles with Lindsay Lohan and her entire family. I was annoyed with the stuff written about Amy Winehouse before she passed away. Their life is not for us to tell them how to live or what we approve of. I think it would help if we altered how we viewed celebrities and how we treat them. It is not their responsibility to raise our children or to rise to meet our expectations of how a person should live and what is appropriate behavior. I just think that sounds incredibly arrogant and self righteous. We have no right to do that to a person no matter what their social status. If they are not hurting other people and victimizing others then it is not our place to judge. And bullying isn’t really what your doing, it how you do. If it’s constant and abusive then to me that’s bullying

    • M_G

      Hmm. Well, you make some good points. I don’t agree with some of them (obviously), but you’re the only one so far to be able to rationally support and explain your points. Much appreciated.

    • Emmet Willis

      “What is the appropriate reaction to have if they repeatedly make the same bad decisions with no distinguishable display of having learned from their mistakes?”

      The point is, you only know fourth and fifth-hand (if that), what the reality of any so-called situation is, because it’s reported often by sensationalist media.

      Take Alexis’ post for example. She has simply repeated details in Radar’s post. She doesn’t know what Selena did or didn’t do i in 2012.

      So why take a judgmental position?

      Her reaction – and yours – is based on indirect knowledge of the facts and is therefore fallible.

    • M_G

      Fair point. And I agree that, naturally, the media is going to sensationalize any story involving A-list celebrities in order to sell more papers/get more clicks on their websites/etc. But I think when someone repeatedly makes questionable decisions, it becomes harder to give them the benefit of the doubt. And of course, personal bias plays a part, too (as I’m sure you’ve been able to tell by now, I am not a huge fan of Justin Bieber, but I do like Selena Gomez, so it’s actually worse to me to hear this sort of thing in regards to her behavior).

    • Isabelle

      Exactly, we dont know how much of this is even true. Especially this particular rumor.

    • Emmet Willis

      And who decided that scrutiny is the price?

      You?

      GET ON WITH YOUR OWN LIFE.

      You’re way too over-invested. .

    • M_G

      Says the girl who comments on every single Justin Bieber post to remind us of how much you worship him. Get on with YOUR own life, princess.

    • Emmet Willis

      Ditto nutter.

    • M_G

      I think the reason I keep having issues with a lot of your comments, though, is because it generally comes off as condescending. I see you pointing out the bias, but it’s almost always followed by an insult to the person who wrote the article, or another user comment, etc. Which, to me, made it sound like you took issue with people talking negatively about Bieber. If you’re saying that’s not the case, fine. It’s entirely possible I misjudged you (this is the internet, after all). But as far as questioning my reactions as being rational, your own argument would suggest that either blindly supporting or trashing celebrities is equally unfounded, since the reports are going to be slanted one way or the other. I chose to believe that, sure, while the reports might be exaggerated, Bieber (and, unfortunately, Selena, too) are making bad decisions. I admit to not liking Bieber anyway, which is definitely influencing my decisions I’m sure, but that doesn’t make my opinion any less valid than someone who chooses to support him. The “mentality of an adult” recognizes that.

      (Also, I take issue with being called “kid”, but since I started it by calling you “princess”, I guess I only have myself to blame for that one….)

    • fantasymother

      MG, sorry I wasn’t online last night, or my foul mind would have supported your argument.

      The truth is, none of us know them personally, we can only judge from what we hear and see. I’ve seen a brat dressed as an idol for too many children, and since my youngest is older than Bieber, I find myself thankful neither of my daughters were part of the generation of tweens influenced by him.

      And that really is the crux of the situation. Bieber has a huge and dedicated following comprised primarily of young females, and since they’re the source of his income he’s in the position of acting as a roll model whether he likes it or not.

      Apparently he’s decided he doesn’t give a shit – and that’s what people find offensive.

    • M_G

      Thanks! And I agree…..I admit, I think I went off the deep end a little bit with this recent onslaught of Bieber trolling. I don’t know why he infuriates me as much as he does….I think I’m just going to take a break from commenting on Bieber articles for a while. Maybe…… ;-)

    • fantasymother

      That’s okay, I find myself in the same inexplicable situation. In fact, I bet the bloggers for this site feel the same, as well.

      And now I see a pregnancy headline as I log in. That’s the problem, you see. It never ends. ;-)

    • M_G

      I JUST saw that!! I am biting my tongue……but…….GAH!! No. No comment.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      I can only speak for myself, but yessss. I am sleepy. The constant onslaught from rabid fans is a lot.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      Don’t you dare do it! I count on you!

    • M_G

      This is horribly off topic for this thread, but I am EAGERLY anticipating an upcoming article from you about Jill Duggar’s wedding registry. Items of note: guns, ammo, lots of boxes of cereal, and neon duct tape……WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS!!

    • Isabelle

      Role models are a personal thing, it varies between different peoples aspirations. I didn’t even come from a very well rounded household and none of my siblings ever made bad decisions because a celebrity did them. I think ones that do, reflect their household more than anything the celebrity is doing.

    • NYCNanny

      Boo hoo. We all need to be nice online. K, guys??

    • M_G

      Awe, where’s the fun in that?

    • FemelleChevalier

      You know, you have some good points. But you’re awful at explaining your points because you keep resorting to petty insults.

      You’re invalidating yourself by insulting people you’re trying to converse with. Just a thought.

      P.S. The “Get on with your life” thing is too juvenile to be taken seriously. Because that could also apply to you.

    • NYCNanny

      We’d be friends in real life. That sounds incredibly weird, but truth.

    • Birk

      Yet don’t you do the same? Except in your case it is bashing.

      I think you are the type of who resents anyone who dares to question your irrational behavior.. Welcome to the real world!

    • M_G

      I definitely don’t resent people for having a different opinion. I DO, however, have a problem with people blindly supporting celebrities without offering any reasons why. I know why I don’t like Justin Bieber. There’s a difference.

    • Birk

      Weed is legal in several states to buy and possess.. So what? As for being underage… Isn’t a person considered a adult legally once they turn 18? What is it about this mythical and magical age of 21 that Americans have allowed their governments to impose on young adults 18-20?? Are you suggesting that 20 yr old men and women are still children when it comes to alcohol? Do you call 20 yr old men and women “little boys and girls”??? Yet the laws classify those 18-20 yr olds as “minors” which is a child. Justin is Canadian and those who turn 18 or in some other provinces a year later at age 19 are treated as the adults they are when it comes to alcohol laws.. America is on the wrong side of history and is backwards when it comes to it’s laws regarding booze and (adults) who are over the age of 18..

  • Lily Savage

    “Burrito sized joints” is my new favorite phrase.

  • Emmet Willis

    Yet more unsubstantiated dross written on the basis of a gossip report at Radar.

    Gomez isn’t smoking or drinking in any of the pictures.

    Embarrassing, Alexis.

    But then, this isn’t New York Times right?

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      Excellent detective work!

  • Birk

    Who cares if they smoke weed… Voters have made their choice perfectly clear in several states and voted to legalize it.. Times are changing, and this is not 30 years ago when the government could get away with the “reefer madness” propoganda to scare people. I would rather live next door to someone who smokes weed than someone who drinks alcohol.. Booze destroys more lives and costs the health care system and the economy more each year than weed. It’s long overdue that the American people stop treating 18-20 as children or in legal terms “minors” which is technically and legally a child, when it comes to the purchase and consumption of alcohol.. Why call 18-20 yr olds “adults” then turn around and legally classify them as “minors” at the same time?? That madness is inexcusable and can’t be logically defended whatsoever. Underage drinking? I guess that means that 18-20 yr olds are children and not the young adults they are in every other legal aspect. Age discrimination of legal age adults is what it is.

    • Isabelle

      I completely agree!

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