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After All That, Ben Affleck Might Be Dropping Out Of Batman Vs. Superman

Ben Affleck at UCLA Film Festival June 2013

Ben Affleck, what are you doing to us? When you first got announced as Batman in the new Batman vs. Superman reboot, did the internet not make its feelings known strongly enough for you? Was everyone really so coy and bashful about their opinions that you didn’t know what they thought about the casting? I personally felt like everyone was pretty open about their naked outrage, but that must not be the case, because after all that — AFTER ALL THAT BATLASH — Ben is now threatening to drop out of the movie.

Really girl? NOW? Now that everyone’s been talked off the ledge about the man who made Gigli stepping into one of their favorite franchises, that’s when you get cold feet and start making noise about leaving? COME ON BEN. I feel like I just got the babies back to sleep after you came banging through the house celebrating your new role, and now you’re coming through for a second pass, slamming doors and undoing all my hard work.

As of now, he hasn’t officially dropped out of the movies, but there are a lot of rumors that he’s heavily considering doing so, for a variety of reasons.

  1. The movie has already been delayed a full year, from 2015 to 2016, and as with any delay, this doesn’t bode well for its content.
  2. As the shooting schedule gets longer, it becomes more and more likely that it will conflict with an upcoming adaptation of the book Live By Night, which Ben wants to direct in the fall.
  3. Ben has apparently been butting heads with the movie’s writer, David Goyer, and feels that the script is nowhere near where he’d want it to be.

With all that taken into account, sources are saying that Ben has demanded the studio pull themselves together or find another Batman. And since Warner Bros. wants to work with Ben in the future, they’ve reportedly offered to let him ‘bow out gracefully’, with neither side trashing each other in the media. So it’s really up to Ben to decide what he wants to do.

And I’m sure he’ll make the right call and everything, because in addition to Gigli, he also made Argobut I swear to god, if you get this whole house of screaming infants riled up again, I’m gonna lock that front door for good.

(Photo: Guillermo Proano / WENN.com)

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  • Jillian

    I don’t think Ben is a great choice for Batman, so I’d be curious to see who would be cast in his place

  • Jillian

    I don’t think Ben is a great choice for Batman, so I’d be curious to see who would be cast in his place

  • Forthas

    I say that if he does drop out they should do what they should have done in the first place – create a Batman/Superman film around the Dark Knight Trilogy with Christian Bale reprising his role as Bruce Wayne/Batman. This would put them light years ahead of where they would be otherwise and the quality of their universe would be better than Marvel’s.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      That’s a pretty smart idea, actually. He already has the weird voice down and everything!

    • me

      Please, God no. While I loved that trilogy, I can’t take another film of Batman sounding like an asthmatic.

    • Stacey Judith

      Although it would be nice, Bale said he’d never do another Batman movie again. But I do agree that it would drastically improve the quality of their franchise.

    • Forthas

      Bale…did not say that! In fact he stated this about his third Batman film “My understanding is that this is the last one. I think it’s appropriate, I think it’s going out at the right time. But…if Chris came to me with a script and said, ‘You know what? There is another story’ then I would love the challenge of making a fourth one work.”

      He later expressed that he was content to let someone else take over the role, but he has not to my knowledge ruled out that he would never return to the role.

    • Stacey Judith

      Wow, nice! But I do remember reading somewhere that he said he’s done and won’t come back but you have quotes and all and I’m just too sleepy and lazy to go and search for the article I read. Anyway, I’d love another Bale Batman movie so I won’t argue with your facts! lol

    • Jeff

      Ship has sailed. Move on, people. Let it go.

      There is no way to bring back that franchise without ruining everything it stood for. The whole point, the entire theme, was that batman was a symbol, not a man. Bringing Bale back completely negates that.

      Its not a competition with Marvel. WB is WB and Marvel Studios is Marvel Studios. WB doesnt NEED DC. They have plenty other franchises and movies developed. Marvel Studios ONLY has Marvel characters. Thats it. They HAVE to create a universe because its the most logical way to make them the most money.

    • Forthas

      “There is no way to bring back that franchise without ruining everything it stood for.”

      WRONG!

      What the movie stood for? The movies are superhero movies through and though…It ends with Batman apparently quitting for no reason…which by the way has not sat well with many Batman fans since it is antithetical to everything the character stands for. Sure the ship has sailed but that does not mean i have to like it which will be made all the more frustrating if the movie tanks which I suspect it will.

    • Jeff

      You apparently didn’t watch the movie.

      Batman didn’t quit. Bruce Wayne did. AGAIN, the theme of the ENTIRE TRILOGY was that Batman was a SYMBOL and therefore would always live on past Bruce Wayne.

      Bruce Wayne coming back completely negates that theme . And typing “WRONG!”every time someone says something you don’t want to admit is correct doesn’t MAKE YOU RIGHT. You saw Batman and got a hard on and obviously didn’t even pay attention to the much deeper themes, motifs, an ssubtextthat runs tthroughout all three films. It’s a omplete story; with a beginning, a middle and an end. It’s perfect as is and I do not want that ruined by Bruce Wayne changing his mind and returning as Batman.

      And no. It won’t tank. That would require it to make less than its complete budget, including production costs, advertising and promotion (“tanking” has nothing to do with critical success). It will make money simply because it’s the three most popular superheroes in pop culture. Fans of Superman, fans of Batman, fans of WW and DC fans in general will see this by the bus load. Opening 2 weeks will make the budget back. It could drop off if it gets bad reviews, but at that point it will already be in the green and it eont matter.

    • Forthas

      So you think Batman and Bruce Wayne are two different people…at this point I can tell debating you is pointless since you are suggesting that Bruce Wayne and Batman are not the same. Looking at the consequences realistically ….in the realistic setting that Nolan attempted to put the movie in…how can a John Blake be Batman without the training and resources that Bruce Wayne needed in order to do the things he did. Blake was neither rich nor a member of the league of shadows. Therefore he can dress up like Batman all that he wants, as I am sure you do every day, but that does not make him Batman. In Nolan’s second films he actually demonstrates this when the vigilantes dressed as Batman and are then admonished by him for wearing “hockey pads”. So Nolan’s OWN movie demonstrates that there is only one person who can be Batman. A more realistic theme is that anyone can be a HERO..but not Batman.

      Bruce Wayne ALREADY changed his mind before and came back as Batman and the fact that Nolan had him return from retirement the first time AGAIN negates his own theme. If he did it before (return from retirement) why would he not do it again? In that sense it would have been better for him to have died.

      You are right the movie probably won’t tank in the sense that it will not make back its budget. It will make its budget back, but it will sorely under perform and that on its own can mean the end of the DCCU.

    • Jeff

      The second movie was all about Batman trying to find someone who could take over the mantle. He was trying to find a White Knight. Someone Gotham could look up to for hope. He WANTED that to be Harvey Dent so he could retire and be with Rachel. He always said he’d be batman until he was no longer needed. Batman is a SYMBOL. And John Blake is a cop. He has more training than the average ass hat from the second movie who tried to be vigilantes.

      Only reason he returned from 8 years retirement was because yet again, there was NO ONE ELSE TO DO THE JOB. Harvey died. That plan fell through. When John Blake entered the picture he had a way out again. Bingo. He took it.

      There have been plenty of different incarnations. In NOLAN’S film, Batman and Bruce Wayne are separate people. Period. That’s the common theme throughout all 3 films. Any dumb ass can see that, which is why I’m shocked you don’t get it.

    • JoseCuervo

      “It’s a torch that should be handed from one actor to another. So I
      enjoy looking forward to what somebody else will come up with.”
      Christian Bale summer 2013

    • Forthas

      RIGHT! Because Warner Brothers made the idiotic decision to move on to yet another iteration of Batman. That quote by Bale is a magnanimous statement basically saying he accepts that decision and wishes the studio and future Batman well. A fact that is EASILY apparent when you add in the quote (you conveniently left out from that very same interview ) in which Bale states “”I have no information, no knowledge about anything. I’ve literally not
      had a conversation with a living soul. I understand that they may be
      making a Justice League movie, that’s it.”

      How could that be true if the studio allegedly approached him about taking on the role and he rejected it. It can’t be… because they did not discuss a future role with him – ergo- it was a studio decision.

      That fact is further bolstered by reports that Affleck was first approached about the role perhaps as early as December 2012 less than 6 months after the release of the Dark Knight Rises. The interview that you are citing was made in July 2013 therefore that decision was already made. Show me a quote where Bale states he categorically refuses to be Batman and then I will believe

    • Jeff

      What are you rambling about? You say yourself that the quote itself means Bale has accepted the decision to move on and he wishes everyone well. And PLEASE show me PROOF that WB approached Bale about returning. Please. Find me proof. That was a rumor and a pretty shotty one at that. Whether he knows something or not, he’s not going to tell anyone because that would be burning a bridge at WB that I’m sure he’d like to keep considering he works for them quite often.

    • Forthas

      Please re-read what I stated. I said that the studio DID NOT approach Bale and therefore he never stated he was not WILLING to be Batman again to anyone…because he was never asked to be. My point is that it is a mistake on the studios part (therefore a studio decision) for NOT asking Bale to continue on…

    • Adrian

      Even if they did do a Batman vs Superman that had Bale in it and it was amazing, that still would not bring it to the caliber of what Marvel has been able to accomplish on the silver screen. DC has yet to show that they are even remotely able to accomplish what Marvel did by setting up and pulling together the Avengers heroes into one of the best superhero movies of all time. The X-men series has had some very notable films as well, and First Class and Days of Future past are taking it in a new and amazing direction in my opinion. Clearly DC can hardly handle putting their two most famous heroes into ONE film, let alone effectively pulling multiple heroes into a Justice League film.

    • James

      Avengers is hardly in the same caliber as any of the Dark Knight films, whether it be as a stand-alone or part of Marvel’s Phase films. Avengers was one of the most over-rated films of its time. Lackluster story, lame villain. It was nothing more than a cash-cow, and clamoring, wet between the legs fanboys ate it all up. DC’s films to this date might not be able to hold up, Box Office wise. But I’ll take a well made DC comic style cartoon, straight to DVD over anymore over-rated Avengers storylines, anytime.

    • me

      Apparently you don’t understand the term ‘overrated’. That would imply it is of lesser quality than critical ratings have made it out to be; however its enduring popularity with just about everybody but you makes it the opposite. You not liking something everybody else did does not equate to a property being ‘overrated’. It’s not the film’s fault you can’t have fun in an action movie.

    • Jeff

      Marvel has no choice but create a universe because it’s ALL THEY HAVE. WB doesn’t need DC.

    • tp ur face

      Christian Bale doesnt want to play the role anymore

    • Forthas

      How would you know that?

    • Jeff

      Because he said so

    • Forthas

      Could you show me a quote? He specifically stated “I have no information, no knowledge about anything. I’ve literally not
      had a conversation with a living soul. I understand that they may be making a Justice League movie, that’s it.”

      In order to tell the makers of the future Superman versus Batman film that he “doesn’t want to play the role anymore” wouldn’t he have to have ” a conversation with a living soul” for him to inform them of that?

  • BEGreen777

    Batman needs more lesbians.

  • elle

    If this is true then I want them to cast Armie Hammer for the role. Physically he would fit and he can be so much better than the Lone Ranger.

    • Jenni

      I feel bad for him that Lone Ranger was supposed to be his big breakout role.

    • elle

      I know, I was kind of disappointed for him when it bombed. I have loved him ever since he was Morgan in Reaper and I really don’t understand why he isn’t a bigger star.

  • Buffslayer

    Thank the Bat heavens. And no Argo and The Town were lackluster Frankensteins of better movies but with the drippy emotional cornmeal mush Affleck likes to throw into all his turd souffles. Some people just don’t see crap for what it’s worth.

    • me

      And some people see crap where it’s not because they’re too busy riding their high horses and convincing themselves that they’re so artistically savvy and intelligent to have fun in a freaking movie.

  • Buffslayer

    I think Gerard Butler would make a FANTASTIC replacement. He is rugged, handsome, not arrogant, but can appear casually cocky when necessary. He has the physical presence. And he would look great in the armor. Best aspect about Butler — his fundamental frequency does not vibrate on the douchebag level 90% of the time like Affleck.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      nah, hes got that accent thing going on.. not a good choice.

    • JoseCuervo

      No

    • chien_clean

      Butler is actually too barbaric for Batman, IMO.

  • peepoo

    Josh brolin is the only acceptable choice for an “older” batman

    • Truth Powell

      Have you ever read the comics? Brolin looks too country to be a billionaire city playboy.
      Ben Affleck is not a bad choice. I hope he doesn’t drop out.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      looks too country? is that even a thing? da fuq? ben affleck is a terrible choice by the way

    • JoseCuervo

      I remember when the internet said Heath Ledger was a terrible choice to play the Joker. yaawwn!

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      yes and they were clearly dumb and had no idea of his earlier works… heath had shown the ability to transform himself into chracters and use different accents… ben has never shown either of those traits. good talk lil guy

    • JoseCuervo

      Lil guy . that’s cute.. I am 6’2″ , 225 and I work out almost every day..never been called little that’s for sure…….your attempt at a 3rd grade insult does not negate the documented fact that Ledger was a terrible actor in terrible movies. I never had a problem with him being the Joker.. I don’t have a problem with Ben being Batman.. later fat guy.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      he wasnt a terrible actor he was actually a well trained actor… and i wasnt referring to your size, i was talking about your mental ability… good talk lil guy. (oh and by the way, the way you reacted to that tells me you are a lil guy LOL)

    • JoseCuervo

      Ledger was a terrible actor in terrible movies.. just look up his movies. 10 Things I Hate About You (6.7), The Patriot (6.8), A Knights Tale (6.5), Lords of Dogtown (6.8), The Brothers Grimm (5.9), The Order (4.7), Ned Kelly (6.3). Ledgers average 6.3

      I guess I have to give you Brokeback Mountain (7.8)

      Yeah you are one of those internet warriors that hide behind the keyboard.. you wouldn’t dare talk to people like that to their faces…. later “big” guy

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      huh? listen the guy is a brit, he changed his accent for 10 things.. and he did a very good job in that movie.. the patriot he was damn good in and thats a damn good movie… a knights tale he did very well and its a solid entertaining movie… the brother gimm kinda sucked.. he did well tho… step ya game up baby cakes… cause u suck

    • JoseCuervo

      Lmao whoop de doooo. He changed his accent? Wow amazing no other actor has ever done that. 10 things was awful. And so was the patriot , please don’t have children internet warrior Don’t

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      ben affleck hasnt done it. and its not easy, and its not easy to do it well.. and i also said mannerisms. and dude u have no idea what good is.. and thats clear.

    • JoseCuervo

      Oh yeah my apologies. I forgot I was talking to an internet warrior movie expert

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      dude u think changing accents and mannerisms to portray a character doesnt mean anything in regards to being a great actor… womp wompo

    • JoseCuervo

      Any actor can do that. Henry Cavhill is he oscar material? Silly

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      No, not any actor can do that.. see this why u are dumb as rocks son.. big ben affleck cant.. he plays a boston guy in every single movie he is in.. even when the character is not from boston he plays a boston guy.. lol.. because that all he can do.. step ya game up lil guy

    • JoseCuervo

      That comment right there shows how dumb you are he was born in Cali and moved to Cambridge at a young age. In jersey girl he played a guy from New York coincidentally it is when he plays guys with Boston accents where he is at his worst. Actually you are even dumber because you think I’m actually defending Affleck which is actually not my point. A point you have missed this whole conversation. Please don’t have children

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      damn u dumb.. lol.. ahahahahahahaha

    • JoseCuervo

      It’s easier for a Brit to do an American accent than vice versa. Fact. Which is really pointless considering Batman is American and this is irrelevant. You keep fighting people on the internet keyboard warrior. I see you need it to feel better about yourself

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      hmmmmm….. Womp? Womp? Yes….. Womp. Womp.

    • JoseCuervo

      Yes retard

    • Mindy_English

      Josh Brolin as Bretton James in “Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps” is as anti-country as you can get. He can totally pull off both roles.

    • chien_clean

      He doesn’t come off enough as a rich, charming guy.

  • Septimus Prime

    I don’t care what anyone else thinks anymore, I DO want CB back!

  • MR1TAKE

    Call me crazy. Why not give Clooney another chance?

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      Crazy….

    • chien_clean

      I wouldn’t mind it. But that depends what age they want Batman to be. May as well go for M Keaton.

  • http://www.originalplots.com/ Bryan

    Ben dropping out of Batman would be awesome. I hope he leaves.

    • JoseCuervo

      why would it be awesome? what is your train of thought behind that thinking? Jesus is like when Ledger was announced to play joker everyone bitched and whined on the internet…. he turned out to be the BEST Joker ever.

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      Because f $!@ Ben Affleck, thats why. Oscar winner Ben Affleck has never won an Oscar for acting…theres a reason for that. no one is convinced he can pull it off. He won’t quit the film but he should…he’s no Heath Ledger.

    • JoseCuervo

      ” Oscar winner Ben Affleck has never won an Oscar for acting”

      Neither did Heath Ledger while he was alive,he had a laundry list of terrible movies, 10 Things I Hate About You, The Patriot, A Knights Tale, Lords of Dogtown, The Order, and his Gigli – Casanova. He won an oscar as you know for the Joker.

      So if you are implying that the only reason Affleck is no good is because he doesn’t have an acting Oscar, well….neither did Ledger when he was cast as the Joker.

      You have no point

      And he is no Heath Ledger.. no he is not.. he has 2 Oscars.

      Shit I don’t even like Affleck but I have a little common sense and I am open mided on the idea considering how bad of an actor Ledger was and how great a Joker he turned out to be.

      If the internet had their way we would have never seen that version of the Joker. The internet hated Ledger…. again…. he was awesome. And Ben can be awesome…. anyone can put on a Batman mask and be awesome… the trick is how to play Bruce Wayne.

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      If you don’t like Affleck either then why are youbwasting your time battling people who say he sucks? My point is very simple here. Ben Affleck is a suck actor who doesn’t deserve a shot at Batman. im not optimistic nor am I going to give him a shot because their are better actors out there. nothing you say is going to help Affleck be a better actor so why fight it. The movie will make money whether people believe in Affleck or not…so again..who cares. Ledger was not a bad actor…but this whole attic isn’t even about him. its about whether affleck is bowing out. im sure he won’t…and in a way im ok with that because when he fails this time it will be huge and maybe theyll just reboot everything again if DC ever figures out how to make a decent franchise. Ben is a horrible choice for Batman. Just accept it. lol

    • JoseCuervo

      if you can’t understand that I am open minded enough to know he can do great then I don’t know what to tell you. I liked him in Argo, I liked in in the Town… I am not just a fan boy that says he is awesome or he will be terible. WE DONT KNOW.. NO ONE KNOWS the future.

      Your really don’t have a point… you are basing this on your pesonal opinion.

      Ledger was AWEFUL…… until he made Batman and maybe BM he was terrible.

      Just accept it? lmao thats hilarious.

      Im going to save the link on this page and in 2 years we can revisit this conversation

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      My point is he’s going to suck based on past movies he’s acted in. That part isn’t opinion, that’s based on fact and hundreds of critic reviews. My opinion is I agree with their reviews. Affleck had his chance in a superhero movie and failed. He’s also had other chances in other movies and came up short in most of them. If you want to ride Affleck’s jock, that’s your opinion too. You won’t convince me to give Affleck a chance so what’s your point? Feel free to save this conversation all you like. I’ll be more than happy to point you to the links where critics felt the movie..and Affleck sucked.

    • JoseCuervo

      right.. just like the critics said MoS sucked…. you keep sucking it to the critics.

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      MoS WAS just average. You add Affleck to an already average movie, and you will get suck.

      http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel/

    • JoseCuervo

      668million world wide. #1 opening weekend and #1 blue Ray DVD sales in Nov. Yeah I can see how it was mediocre. Said no one ever. $ is the biggest critic. If it was so bad why you even care ?

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      If money is the biggest critic you probably think Star Wars Episode I was one of the best movies ever.

    • JoseCuervo

      Not really but it was successful. I bet you watched all 3 prequels.

    • http://www.originalplots.com/ OriginalBryGuy

      Hate the prequels. I think we all had to watch them once at least tho.

  • NightWing

    This would be the greatest thing to happen to DC comics since Geoff Johns.

  • chien_clean

    It would be a disaster of great proportions if Ben is Batman, he should leave. People don’t want him. But I think it would be worse if that no-talent chick play Wonder Woman.

  • Jim McMaster

    Just give the role to Karl Urban already

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