• Mon, Oct 8 2012

Kristen Stewart Looks Like She’s Back To Her Old Self, And By That I Mean Clinically Unhappy In The Spotlight

Looks like someone unlocked Kristen Stewart from her tower of shame and solitude and allowed her to attend the Florence and the Machine concert this weekend with her father. As soon as she stepped back into the public spotlight, she glowed as only Kristen Stewart can glow.

Oh did I write glowed? I meant glowered.

Did she smile at all that night? Very possibly! But did she also look completely miserable to have cameras being shoved in her face? Absolutely!

Should we all take a moment now to remember how much Kristen Stewart hates being in the spotlight. Especially when that spotlight’s not part of a press event that she’s required to attend. With all the excitement over her cheating on Robert Pattinson with Rupert Sanders to boost sales for Breaking Dawn: Part 2, I completely forgot about the K.Stew that we love.

Or I should say the K.Stew that we used to love to hate. The not-every-smiling jokes just came so easily.

Remember that girl? The one who walked down red carpets like she was walking the plank. The girl who wore sneakers to awards shows. The not-so-charming young lady who  awkwardly presented at award shows in such an unenthusiastic way that we all cringed on our couches at home.

Well, she’s baacckkkk! And all I got to say is hey girl hey, your familiar faces are making me nostalgic for the pre-scandal pre-fence-cuddlin’ days.

So for everyone who’s worried about her and fretted over her and cried tears of sadness for her, fear not! Our girl’s back in action and looking just as ambivalent about being famous as ever!

(Photos: David Tonnessen, PacificCoastNews.com)

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  • Petranella

    She has definitely avoided eye contact with the papz lately, even more so than before.

    • Jenni

      I think there are probably more following her than before. But that’s just my guesstimate.

    • Petranella

      I think the price for her “head” (photos) must be very high now. It’s not like you see her walking to Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf in WeHo everyday, even before all this-so esp. now! yeah.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      PLease Kristen please put on a dogsdeservebetter.com T shirt. http://www.dogsdeservebetter.com Tamira Thayne is such a savvy media person. She chains herself to a doghouse on the Harrisburg legislature court steps while they are in session to get them to pass the No Chaining Bill to get the dogs off the chains and into their homes to be loved. She just got married that way too.

    • http://ninnelson.com/ gigi5

      Also the bright flash would be really irritating, especially when you don’t know where it will come from next.

    • Petranella

      yeah, very much so.

    • nena

      Yes I cannot imagine it, I think justiceforkristen has a video about paps, it’s good and pathetic

  • ss

    So Jenni, I just read Celeb Bitchy (I think that’s what it’s called). They had an article about KS. So to add more gas to the KS fire. She is quoted from an interview with Marie Claire (not sure if that was the mag). Anyway, she is quoted as referring to herself or calling herself (whatever she did) as a “c**t”. And whoever interviewed her or whoever, commented something like, KS seems to just puts on a act like she is hardcore (something like that) etc, etc . Anyway, as much as I like KS and am a fan of hers, regardless. BUT some of things she says, or does makes me cringe. But who in the hec refers to themselves as c**t???? Smh. THIS is NOT what she needs NOW. She had a hell of alot of bad press because of the cheating scandal. And even before that, she didn’t need any extra help with bringing more controversy to herself. Geez. That comment alone, makes me want to look away and hold my breath for her…Because that comment she made, IS CRINGE worthy on another level. Another s**t storm coming?? I REALLY hope she did not say that….
    I know, what I posted was not on subject with the article. But just wanted to know your thoughts.

    • Jenni

      As much as I think I’ve figured out 90% of this publicity stunt, I’ve never been able to figure her out. Maybe she thinks if she gives enough bad interviews, they’ll stop asking for them? Or maybe, going back to an original theory, she hopes enough quotes like this will end her career and let her fade away into obscurity.

    • Petranella

      She is an enigma. which will unfortunately I think, cause fans, celebrity watchers and weblog writers and Papz—go after her all that much more intensely.

    • ss

      IF she really did say the c**t quote, I mentioned about earlier…..she sure must like blog writers, paps, entertainment outlets,fans and non fans etc, to go after her….

    • Petranella

      See below ss

    • ss

      Ill check it out…

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well the ones that went and still go after her are C**TS

    • lillicat

      YEAH. Well said. We are thinking of how we see the word.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That’s why I wrote this post a long time ago: http://intellectualterrorism2.blogspot.com/2012/04/fuck-is-word-is-word-is-word-that-means.html It’s funny with a little video.

    • nena

      Imagine how she feels tho, weather a set up (yes) or PR with all 4 its the media that has put her in this position, they have helped invent names, tshirts, camped out more then before, they have not let this go. They make up lies, continuously respin the articles, and just hounded her before and after. Twitlonger has a article about this, go read it everyone. She may have all the right intentions when she goes out, that she is going to be better, but then when they continue to hound her maybe it gets to much and the old girl who feels she has to protect herself comes out. IDK

    • Petranella

      I read the article on Twilighter. Of course K must be feeling a greater need than ever to protect herself “emotionally” She went out with her Dad, that ought to tell us something! That is where you look for protection. I think support from her family is very emotionally healthy for Kristen. And I don’t think she needs to or should change her behavior to satisfy or not satisfy the papz or the critics.

    • nena

      me neither, and everyone will think that since this comes out after tjhe scandal that she gave the interview after, so they will think differently that she is intentionally being definant

    • Petranella

      yeah, it is currently being promoted to make her appear in a bad light again.

    • lillicat

      She has said many times she wears her heart on her sleeve.

    • nena

      She may want to play nice but then when she sees all of them all the hate comes back. Hey where is irishgirl? Are you on twitter, I just started one with all this

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      She’s showing you that you can be linguistically free. But she has to trash the Foucauldian Dominating Discourse to show you that. Read Zizek. Or listen to him on youtube.

    • lillicat

      Oh Janet, Rob is listening . I heard an interview just last night where he said, Kris is fierce. She doesn’t want to say the same old thing, that’s for sure. But I wonder if she hasn’t been cautioned that this might not be the best time to strike out and set people straight??? Just wondering.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      She doesn’t need to say anything about this from now to forever. No need. It is up to us to make sure she never needs to. OMG did you read all the stuff robin dug up for me on the Sanders and nena finished off along with you.

    • nena

      ok what is the 90%?

    • Petranella

      http://fiercebitchstew.livejournal.com/2268149.html
      Here is the interview–it appears she is kidding,or being blunt, or honest, SS: it is better to read the context than depend on the interpretation of Celebitchy, who always love being bitchy to KStew anyway.
      The interview is of the original punk rock attitude.

    • ss

      I read the article. Regardless, if she was being honest, just kidding, or blunt. Or being “punkrock” for that matter (?)….I’m still wondering, why she just couldn’t say, “I’m miserable.” Than answer ” I’m a miserable c**t”. It just seemed so random to me (the c word part). I don’t get, why she feels to be so “out there”. I get her. But IMO, feel she “over does it” with her persona. She is different. She stands out no doubt. She has that it quality. She has the rebel attitude. She is cool, without trying. She is edgy. BUT it seems she talks about being different, real, or not trying to be anyone else or whatever soo much, that it just seems like a put on. When it maybe it isn’t a put on at all. It’s hard to take seriously after awhile. It has too be natural. Jmo

    • Petranella

      yeah of course, we all have our opinions. But is the c word usage really all that bad in the course the interview?
      I have been following Kristen for 3 years so I have my own opinion as well. What was really punk rock was showing up to the interview in “grubby” jeans as the writer put it. Punk rock means the indomitable spirit and non-conformity of the original punks from England and America and also Warhol and the Silver Factory gang. Kristen Stewart shares this “punk rock spirit”
      The c word–comment–I think she is a little weary of being asked the same questions, I think she is slightly defensive and protective now now with anything to do with her “inner life” I am also formulating my opinion of Kristen’s personality changes if any–that she is going through– I think there could be some anger going on with her, and she is motivated to fight back–this interview is one of the first since the scandal. I would rather hear her talk about being “different and real”–which she didn’t here==than most of the boring ass interviews with actors with the exception of a few others.

    • nena

      When did she give this interview? I agree that it must get so boring being asked the same questions, and she is probably defensive now, and maybe afraid of the questions they may ask. How many different ways can u say the same stuff?

    • JS

      The interview was done about two weeks before the scandal but the article was written after it. The interviewer actually says (2nd paragraph is truncated in the transcript, but is there in full in the accompanying scans): “a fortnight after this interview, news broke that that she’d been two-timing R-Patz with her dashing director on SWATH, Rupert Sanders”; and then “having met her, the affair isn’t surprising in the slightest; Stewart seems to have a highly developed rebellious streak.”

    • nena

      Can you say bitch? Wow

    • JS

      I think it’s safe to say the interviewer was not a fan. The trouble with the “rebel” thing, which Kristen was taking to the extreme at this point, is that it does not impress everybody and it does make fairly implacable enemies. It polarizes opinion! If you compare Rob and Kristen, Rob doesn’t really have enemies except for the people who don’t want to see him with Kristen and take it out on him when he won’t let her go; Kristen has people who despise her just for who she is (or, more accurately, the image she projects). This kind of interview adds fuel to the fire, especially when the interviewer is totally unsympathetic (as here).

      Kristen’s pre-scandal image, of which this was one of the last manifestations, crashed and burned in July. She is still recovering from that personal world-shattering experience and needs to rebuild her image with it. It will be interesting to see if, as she does so, the rebel returns or whether she adopts a more emollient “older and wiser” tone from now on.

    • ss

      EXACTLY! THANK YOU very much!! :-)
      *That was the EXACT point I was trying to make. Very poorly I might add (with all my comments). Lol

    • ss

      I personally think KS overdoes the “rebel” attitude. Don’t get me wrinf, I’m a big fan of hers. But, still, it get’s a little old and she seems to try and push that image so much, it’s almost seems as a act.I’m not saying she is but, it appears that way. I think someone can have that rebel attitude but be “smart” about it. She is a smart lady, I wish she would show more of her other sides. She is interesting and has alot of goid things about her. She still be a “rebel” but be a wise rebel per say…

    • Jenni

      Exactly! While she doesn’t have to hide her true feelings, she has to recognize (and I think she does) that by portraying herself this way in interviews, she will continue to get written like this in the media.

      She’s not stupid and I think she’s well aware of her image in the media and how people respond to her actions. I think she knows that using the c-word will result in headlines.

    • Petranella

      But then, she keeps dropping f-bombs (Toronto several times)-and how is the c word really any worse-than f bombs she has been dropping for several years? and been criticized for? The thing is, Kristen doesn’t always give interviews like this one. I don’t think for most Twilight press she has?

    • curioushairedgal

      She’s not portraying herself, nor is there any ‘image’ concern in the sense that she adjusts to the ‘image’. She just speaks. And yes, not all interviews are the same, that’s the benefit for readers, not getting the pre-thought, ready made answer. Now everyone ‘s so puritanically hung up on this cunt thing. I thought what she said about what’s cool was very accurate….and cool.And how wonderfully she got MaryLou….why aren’t people talking about that?

    • curioushairedgal

      The responsibility for ‘getting written like this’ is on the writer/interviewer, not K.Yes, she probably knows that ‘cunt’ will be all over internet, as it is, but that’s not the issue. The issue is whether knowing that limits her freedom of expression, whether it encircles her into self-consciousness in which she opts not to use the word which comes naturally for whatever reason cause of the ‘image’ and propriety. And it simply doesn’t cause it’s about speaking one’s mind.
      The value of that gets burried underneath all the c-word talk. Fortunately, not for everyone.

    • lillicat

      You have made a very sensible observation. Every interview she did just before “Rufordgate” inserted something about it into the article. It will be interesting to see how she handles the interviews at BD2. I’ve noticed she gives a totally different interview (demeanor) when she is with Rob.

    • nena

      I have been thinking of a name,love it!!! I agree that probably she should tone it down a little, I think Rob and she do better in interviews with each other. Rupertgate or Rufordgate

    • curioushairedgal

      Kristen doesn’t project an ‘image’, it’s the people that project on her. Including the interviewer.

    • Petranella

      yeah wow is right. Hand it to her–She has a way with words–the snark and b*tch is under that thin veneer of cordiality to her subject.

    • Petranella

      I agree that the Twi interviews esp, have got to get repetitive as hell, I sure noticed that with OTR, they had to discuss the topless scenes 1000 times! that would get OLD

    • nena

      yeah, it would be one thing to appear naked but to be asked about it so many times it would get wierd that all these people only want to see your boobs, I think that would make me self conscience

    • Petranella

      Ok glad you agree. lol. and it was promoted all over the place just in headlines. At times I’m sure she felt uncomfortable with that.

    • nena

      yeah

    • nena

      I thought someone said she gave the interview BEFORE the scandal

    • Petranella

      If it was Paris, then it was just two weeks ago or whenever.

    • Petranella

      I am getting a date on that interview. That journalist did NOT like her.

    • JS

      The interview was done two weeks before the scandal broke. Read the second paragraph of the scanned version. The interviewer makes it entirely clear! And you’re right, the journalist did not like her!

    • Petranella

      thank you JS. I only read the transcript.

    • nena

      But I thought she has onlu gone to Toronto and NYC, I think it had to be maybe around Cannes

    • Petranella

      Remember the fashion thing in Paris two weeks ago-whenever- She was there like 48 hours?

    • nena

      Oh your right. Well I wonder if she was going right to the airport after the interview maybe that is why she didnt dress up

    • lillicat

      I agree. The writer was appalled that Kris wore the jeans, t-shirt and vest to the interview when she could have the pick from the racks at the design house. The interview smacked of Kris becoming flustered at the line of questioning. I noticed the same during the ShowBiz Tonite interview with GH at TIFF. But I figured Kris was so nervous about the rc. Maybe not.

    • Petranella

      You said it all better than I did, that is what jumped out at me about the article, not the c word lol.

    • lillicat

      Because she didn’t mean it that way. I guess the word means something totally different in Europe, because if you scroll down to the comments- it was explained. As Janet said- she couldn’t make a choice between being comfortable and content or when she was pushing herself, because she had felt happiness during both. The poster said” One can say don’t be a c..t to a woman, or don’t be a d..k to a man when they are being a bit naughty. I learned something new here.:)

    • nena

      Me too, I’ve said to a guy don’t be a dick but I thought it ment that the guy was being rude or well ya I guess naughty

    • nena

      What do you mean by not being able to make a choice?

    • lillicat

      If I remember correctly, the question was “when are you happiest within yourself”? or similar. I’ll go back and check. I’m leaning toward Janet’s explanation above; that she felt “stupid” because she had felt happiness when she was content and also when she was pushing herself to an extreme- both sides of the pendulum swing. At any rate, her terminology did not bother me. I said this somewhere-the tone of the article bothered me, as in the tone of the interviewer. The next thing I thought of after reading the poster from England’s thought was a message to Rob.

    • nena

      I cant find the article, I looked in the magazine gallery, but all listed were not the MC interview. I agree with what you said, people can be content and happy and content when you do something for a job that is outside your comfort zone. Thats what I think is cool, I dont think its an act that she gets red when talking about the sex scenes, i mean she used to, and says that she is not as open and free as Marylou, I hope the movie comes hers, Cosmop never did.

    • nena

      read an article about Rup guess he loves that word, so maybe KS is feeling bad

    • lillicat

      Also the entire interview with comments is on Robsten Dreams in the magazine section.

    • Petranella

      I could not find it on Robsten Dreams

    • nena

      me neither

    • nena

      Hollywood life has a article today about Rup being a jerk and I guess he yells, swears alot, dirty jokes and I guess his favorite word is c**t? So tthe writer of the HL article says something about maybe Rup destroyed her self esteme and that Kristen calling herself a miserable c**t is because her self worth is down IDK, it was interesting

    • curioushairedgal

      Why give relevance to anything HW says? They just put anything out there so people would read and spin more of irrelevance until the mere fact so many are spinning it makes it relevant. So cunt isn’t suposed to be used in an interview, so what? I’ve seen many use it hatefully for K online, yet that’s not the topic HW life would be interested in.It’s just made into a topic when its used publicly, and when she used it referring to herself in the face of all those who used it anonymously online,hate speech directed towards her.Now those very people HL lives on are, what, shocked, aghast, thinking there’s sth wrong with her ?!? I think who ever wrote that article at HL shoud get worried cause his/her life is passing them by while they make up shit about others. And karma is a bitch.

    • nena

      yeah I know so big deal. ha

    • lillicat

      S%^t, here we go. I wish I could find the whole article with comments. It was written for MC, UK, so it’s understandable she would use a British colloquialism as her BF is British. The English do not view this as a big deal. As ss and others said though, it may have been an unfortunate slip-up , because people in THIS country will use this statement as an excuse to start ripping her to shreds again.

    • nena

      I think was a peer co worker I think from london. GC was all a buzz about a article about rp in a bar in NYC with a blonde that i think turned out to be Sienna Miller, wow

    • lillicat

      Well, this bar picture business is going to get interesting. The chick tweeting the pics was none other than the elusive Jessica Devlin ( the elusive supposedly secret GF). I hope that is either Sienna or her sis Samatha. All the boards are lit up with people in the bar tweeting, saying he kissed her neck and left with her. I don’t believe it, but the posters are saying some pretty rough things about him. Said the pics got out before Nick could do damage control. I’m going back to read more.

    • nena

      Well if it was Jessica then it wasnt her, Are more people FROM the bar talking now or tweeting now that they were there and saw it> How would anyone know that the pics came out before Nick could do something? Would RP really be that dumb? Some blog or maybe it was a tab that said he was nice but just friendly. are you on GC or where?

    • lillicat

      Just got back from robstendreams.com. Four of the pics were even on there. The more I look at them – I think that is Sienna. The sister is much taller than Sienna. She is wearing the same blouse she had on earlier in Central Park. PD or someone pointed that out, and it was a good observation, because she had the pic to back it up. Even so the sis is married. I think this is just much ado about nothing. But if the studio was not so keen about them not being seen together or traveling together before BD2, this could have been avoided if Kris had been allowed to go. I guess the s%%t would hit the fan in a small bar if they walked in together now, but it’s got to happen eventually if they are going to make a go of it. I wish they could just get that first time over with. If you go toany of the tabloid sites, these people are posting like crazy. I saw HL- artice about Rob cozying up to unknown blond. I’m not repeating what they said, because if it’s not true, it’s very damaging; and goes along with the rumors that have circulating for the last 4 years (none proven). I am trying to figure out who the hell this Jessica Devlin is? Anyway, if Rob knew they were taking pics- it had to be innocent- like we said, or he was rebelling against the studio and/or Nick. IDK. Slap me in the mouth. I can’t remember if you asked this- but of course, HL had their relationship psychologist analyze the body language, and said it showed Rob wasn’t that into her, just being polite. (Janet!!!) Whatever. Over on GC, someone said that Nick had gotten to one of the rags maybe US Weekly (Huummm, interesting choice) to debunk the story. Why not GC? Too obvious???

    • nena

      I think she is English. At first everyone was saying it was Jennifer but I thought it was just the first pic with rob in Bach with the white eyes and T$S sitting and two girls real close taking the pic of themselves but why would she do that? Take the pics of him I think maybe she is an actress?? GC was being strange and I can’t tell where they are posting! This could all end if Sienna or sis would come forward and say it was them in the pic, I wonder why Nick isn’t doung that. Why HWL? Who was the first to have the story? I am afraidK&R may being left to flounder and not getting good advice. How would anyone know if nick tried to stop it, I went to the RP site with Rosé she is good. She had a fit about this situation. This whole thing would be more believable if more people who were there came forward. And I can’t believe that IF the were all cozy that everybody else in the bar wouldn’t start taking pics and tweeting. Everybody would want to get those pics.and I don’t think he is this stupid

    • lillicat

      Even the regulars like PD, HKN, Bearly, and ss seem scarce. A whole new crew, with a lot of haters have taken over. I think the haters are flagging the regulars posts. I will alert you if I see any of PR_PRO posts. I just realized it’salmost 5:00AM Gah! I got to see Jack White last night -he was incredible!

    • nena

      I think PD is worried about KS on twitter her and BI were talking. I just don’t believe that RP has cheated all those times and Nick has covered. I think the only way this is true is if the relationship was PR and that was RP just dating or something. But of many rumors of KS. I wonder if this Jessica devlin has an agenda and is mad that RP doesn’t like her? Were there really other tweeters? But no other pics? She must have a crappy phone cuz my phone takes better pics then that. I just would think that IF it was true that there would have been so many tweets about it!! Don’t you?

    • lillicat

      Very quickly- I’ll expound when I return. I counted about 15 people who were posting on different sites (different monikers) who said that they were there. Supposedly (if you believe them) Jessica was one of the ones taking the pic. I saw about 12+ pictures, get this – all distributed by Splash!!! If you don’t get this, I’ll explain. I f you go to some of the sites that have been the worst bashers of Kris- it’s now war on Rob. The men are all in
      , and battle lines are being drawn. Her’s something else- Of all the sites JJ, PH, HL,HR,HP, E, etc. guess who has not mentioned A Word??? Lainey. People Mag is noe listing Kris as Rob’s GF but added (on&off). Jacklegs.HaHaaHaaaaaaaa. Later.

    • nena

      Yeah I was there also and I left with Taye Diggs but its ok because Idina is cool with it because I told her I loved her in Rent and Wicked and she is white with brown hair and so am I so I;m not a homewrecker. WOW, no what about splash? I wonder why Lanie is quiet, maybe she is afraid she is wrong? Why would People say on and off? In 4 years its been ON for but a few days in july. The article here on crushable that was posted yest about RP not knowing that he is back with KS and was flirting with a blonde, any way It crashed today I think because all the GC people were there and I actually got mad at one of the guest people cuz they were kinda starting crap and I said how things are here and that its not like at GC, then I said I knew that they hadnt been rude yet but I’d seen their work. Felt good,

    • lillicat

      Good for you girl! There was one poster that was just starting trash yesterday. That article was just trash, maybe that’s why some of the trash talkers came out of the woodwork to jump on the board. This might be the same one. Any time we would try to start a new conversation about Kris otr Rob or BD2, the poster would jump in with rude remarks about RS&KS. BTW, janet posted me about the article you found about RS’ trash mouth. Was it on HL.? I thought I would read it. Late, late last night I ran across an article in HP(The Daily Beast) that I thought she would be interested in and emailed it to her. OK_ Explanations…… when the shit(oops, I mean pics) hit the fan night before last, US Weekly came out immediately and debunked the rumor, saying it was inocent conversation, etc. The board at GC was abuzz saying that this was Nick’s doing. Why he didn’t use GC, I don’t know, except did you recognize the NAME of the tabloid????? Where have you heard that Name before???? I was on that board just watching chaos unfold, and noted which threads to follow for a little detective work. I clicked on the twitter accounts that were being put up as reference and found the pics. Of course today they are in almost all the tabs, including ABC. Jeeze. I guess most of the papz pics are uploaded and then claimed from fans to companies like Flameflynet, or Splash. In cruising the sites, many of the pics of R&K that we have loved and seen over and over are from one or both of these companies. As for Lainey, I just think she doesn’t think it’s worth commenting on, and she is not getting into the fray.
      People Mag are standing by the reconcilliation, and right after the supposed split they went in and emended Rob’s Bio Brief ( the box on the right side of page) to say KS- EX girl friend. It wasn’t very professional/ not even the same font or color. Well, as of last night (because so many fans were afraid Rob was punking them about the reconcillation thing and freaking out online) the EX- girlfriend was removed and replaced with Girlfriend- dates2009-2012, but “on&off” was added in(). Very cool. Yeah. That’s why I called them “Jacklegs”. I you go to Rob’s IMDb site, click on full bio- (p2) The last sentence says 2011— “he lives in LA with his girlfriend Kristen Stewart and his dog. It was never changed. One other thing, go to Laineygossip, today’s
      article on Kris, click on full article. The back side is a very good write-up on how the European mags and the Balenchiaga DH are not making a big deal over the “I’m a miserable c–t” statement or what Kris wears or how she looks, or if she is smiley, smiley. It was really insightful. Maybe I should have had more faith in Lainey. All the girls that know on GC say that Lainey hates Rob. OK- so my take on that is if she though there was any teeth in that story, she’d be all over it like bees on honey. (Repeating myself, sorry)

    • nena

      What papz are uploaded? The cheating ones or were papz at the bar? I’m confused, sorry yes the article about RS being a jerk is HWL. What do you mean claimed from fans and up loaded to splash/ flamefly? What a cluster f@@k

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The “cheating” pics by the fence are all photoshopped. All fake. that makes them all suspect.

    • lillicat

      The twitter pics in the bar are uploaded to companies like Splash, FFN or tabloids. Any twitter pic you take of a celeb will be bought if you want to sell it. It you sell it to the photo Op companies, they can then distribute it to all media for a fee of course. This is what I learned. I’m sure some will correct me if I have misunderstood anything.

    • pcardax

      Yesterday the news with photos and was published first by the Daily Mail. Control based on Google news. Then the web has inflamed: ALL have then published and on GC was hell! The initial denial on with Sienna Miller and was made by Perez Hilton (it’s ironic, but it suggests an attempt to limit the damage)
      I think these photos are out on purpose. I hope it is the work of the Grand Punk Scenario 6 Twilighter (see http://justiceforkristen.wordpress.com/)
      If not, I invite PR to examine this hypothesis and to put in place: solve this mess with little damage as possible! This strategy of alternating news on reconciliation and RP to show that behaves as a single, in the long run is making him an ambiguous and negative, that is making fun of (or revenge!) KS and pretending to be reconciled only for money to promove film. Yesterday on GC people have said that!
      Nena, I can just send you an e-mail

    • nena

      I agree this is now so out of hand it seems like both of their PR people are trying to sabotage both their careers. This could be cleared up if it is known who she is. They both are looking stupid. Send a email

    • pcardax

      I agree: They both are looking stupid. And people not- Twilight-fan who should go to see their future films (not for teen) are getting tired of this story… In Italy today On the road is in cinema!

    • Petranella

      I think that it is all making the reconciliation look like a stunt. not say I believe that—but it LOOKS that way and I can see why people would believe this!

    • Petranella

      To curioushair gal too:
      this is actually one story I believe. I emailed Sandra Clark

    • curioushairedgal

      Why?

    • Petranella

      This is from Hollywood Life–a webloid that I have really criticized and still do. So for me to think this is true is a big deal! The writer of the story, S Clark exchanged posts with myself and a very “anti-Kristen” person, we both quizzed her. Sandra Clark says the person came forward and wanted to tell someone this with no pay and no provocation. She says it often takes a while for people to come forward.

      A former colleague of Rupert’s tells HollywoodLife.com exclusively, “I don’t see what Kristen Stewart saw in Rupert. I don’t see what Liberty [Ross] sees in him (or saw in him). When I worked with him, he constantly used foul language, saying words like ‘c**t’ and making crude jokes. He has a huge, huge ego.” “When I heard that Kristen recently described herself as ‘a miserable c**t’, I immediately thought of Rupert and the impact he must have had on her. It’s disturbing and weird that a beautiful, successful young woman would use this word to describe herself, ” said the source.

      This person’s opinion sheds some light, not a massive amount, but at least some on Rupert Sanders; people can decide whether or not to believe. IMO this “source” does believe her perception of him and did indeed come forward anonymously and without pay to HL

    • curioushairedgal

      Link to where that ‘source’ is quoted pls? Only found article by someone named Bonnie Fuller.

    • Petranella
    • nena

      Ha I did also, right away, she emailed me back right away and wanted my phone number, so I did get it to her, bit havent heard back yet. I will let you know if she does and would you do the same? I wish she would, we follow each other on twitter dont we?

    • Petranella

      yes,on twitter, that was me the other day when you were debating whether or not to send the email! with abbeysbooks.

    • nena

      That was so damn confusing, I was getting different answers from the same twitter names, I was ready to scream! So did she email you back? I wish she would. Abbeybooks found other stuff, her bf doesnt think RP cares for KS at all I guess, I just cant think that, IDK but this crap is making me mad. I emailed that lynette Peakes person who commented on justiceforkristen site and went to the site, she had a good speculation about RS and KS. Ill email u if u want

    • Petranella

      yes, please do. And email me what you wrote to the writer at HL. And Abbey’s bf doesn’t know anything.

    • nena

      email address?

    • Petranella

      wrote it to you on twitter Nena–thanks

    • Petranella

      What did you write to her?!

    • nena

      its to long but I will email you, ummmm how can I get it to you

    • http://ninnelson.com/ gigi5

      I think George Carlin should resurrect himself and his act. Kristen would be great doing a stand up George Carlin routine on Letterman or SNL.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    C**T is a PC Feminist incorrect word, so we have to spell it when we say it, put air quotes around it, which is all just dumb. Remember Madonna going on Letterman and the whole interview got beeped? M was putting on the PC Fem “word police” who are the most vicious variant of feminism. When a woman uses the C word about herself, she is saying how dumb and foolish all this PC stuff is. “Mentally challenged” we immediately translate as dumb anyway. It’s all about Orwell doublespeak and “floating signs”.

    She’s just saying it’s stupid and dumb. If she said it about another woman there would be outrage, so she says it’s stupid and dumb when she uses it on herself.

    I doubt she has read Zizek, but she sort of doesn’t have to. But baby you do.

    • Petranella

      Janet you read that interview right? I wrote you a DM about it.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes right away. I edited the blog post to include it. You are talking about the RS director one?

    • Petranella

      no I know you read that. The Marie Claire interview we are talking about above.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I haven’t read it. Link?

    • lillicat

      Janet- I know you are not fond of robstendreams.com, but the full interview and comment board is in the magazine section at the top of the page.

    • nena

      I looked but didn’t see it

    • Gosia

      me too

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Thanks. I don’t mind that site. It’s light and quick and that’s OK.

    • lillicat

      I read the Marie Claire interview. Catty Alice…..MEEEouw!! An English poster said that she was possibly using the word as the English meaning “a little bit naughty”. That was cute.

    • Petranella

      I just read that too…It is more freely used in Britain.

    • Petranella

      I re-read that, and the interview is saying that Kristen is affected and into “ultra-cool” on a very surface level.

    • lillicat

      I need to re read this article. It’s gone from Robsten Dreams. I saw it on the Style section of the Daily Beast and Jezebel I thought.

    • Petranella

      I read it about 4 times and really got the underlying messages between the lines. Should still be in Fierce Bitch Stew. Jezebel did a brief post on it

    • nena

      What is DM?

    • Petranella

      direct message, like a private e-mail on twitter. are we following each other on twitter?

    • nena

      I think so, Im Ghoxi5

  • ss

    Honestly… I personally don’t give a rats a** if KS cusses during interviews (or cusses period), or if she uses the C word. Or uses the C word in any context. I just don’t care. I don’t let that stuff bother me, because it just doesn’t. I mean it just doesn’t matter, I guess. I guess I’m trying to say is, I personally don’t get affected or angry when people say stuff like that. Maybe unless, someone is actually calling me that. I’m just saying, there are people who are hoping, waiting, and even expecting KS to do and say something “stupid”, to dislike her even more. Another reason people will say she “deserves” the hate she gets. However she used the C word in the interview, she just needs to be a little more “choosy” with her words. That is all I am saying. People flip everything and/or blow everthing out of proportion. I understand she not giving a crap what people say and all or whatever. I get it. I think she just needs to cool it a little. JMO.

    • nena

      Yes, I guess really the only time she could use better language is on the RC. Otherwise I think she is just being her self, doesn’t really bother me , her nonconformist ways is one reason I first noticed her

    • lillicat

      I just love how she throws caution to the wind with language in these interviews. I totally understand where you are coming from ss and nena. But I have to tell you , Miss Alice gave me a bad taste by the second sentence of the interview. She was going to write a negative interview from the get-go based on Kris’attire. Geeze! Maybe Kris got the vibe and decided to punk her out! Someone needed to do it.

    • nena

      Probably! She prob believes all the cheating stuff and decided she didn’t like KS. And all the crap that has been said she had her mind made up that KS was ….. you know all the names!

    • Petranella

      yes yes yes! Lady was offended that KS did not know the history of the design house. And it is HER favorite design house.

    • Gosia

      What are you talking about. I know nothing

    • nena

      when she was in paris for the belenciago fashion show she gave an interview and in it the lady asked her when she is the happiest?, And KS said she was a miserable cunt, and said she is happen when she is content and when she pushes her self, the lady did not like KS ,its a interview for Marie Caire

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I didn’t get that she didn’t like her, but did note that she wasn’t your typical celebrity diva.

    • Petranella

      Oh I hear you totally. And very valid points. KS has always been polarizing for issues like the cussing. And she continues to be so, even more so now. She is flawed and definitely “gives” the so-called “haters” ammunition. And the very reasons that she is hated are the same reasons the fans love her. I think that interview with calling herself a miserable c*nt was a manic kind of interview for Kristen and she went over the top. a Publishing industry person told me her opinion is that since that Marie-Claire interview was published post scandal, the editorial and writer decided feature the “worst looking” quotes prominently, to tie it in with the scandal and get more readers.

    • nena

      oh probably, she was in paris for what 2 days, prob very tired, it wasnt a interview like TIFF where she was pretty certain the questions. The interviewer obviously didnt like KS, didnt like her clothes, words or tone.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      She was taken off guard. Surprised. Didn’t know what to say really.

    • nena

      Wow I didn’t say she was caught off guard at all. I just was saying this was the first interview that wasn’t at promo or. That she didn’t know what to say either. She may have been nervous because shr knows what ever she says is going to be put under a microscope. Geeze

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The interviewer was caught off guard, not Kristen.

    • nena

      Sorry misunderstood you. I was thinking why is she being to mean. Lol yes I agree with that. I’m just so tired and am thinking I need a break because right now the only one I feel for is KS and get to thinking the rest a sleeze bags, I’m sick of mankind and don’t get why this world is so full of shit. This isn’t the way I was raised. I thought the world was basically good but it’s not. Maybe it’s better to know but I don’t want to know

    • powerpoes

      I have been been reading about this for allmost 3 months . And I feel very sad . My husband and kids don’t understand why I care so much . But Ijust have the eeling that something very bad has been done to KS . I gues I want some justice . And her name clean . I think RP hurt her to .
      I’m feeling so sad about everything .

    • nena

      I think so to. This isn’t a simple thing. It’s not like “oh my boyfriend broke up with me” that thing happens to most people in their life. This has been world wide. I don’t think this has ever happened before. Tiger woods, Casey Anthony, OJ didn’t get this much hate, I still can’t get my brad around it. If RP has been lying for 5 years and if RS and L s used her also. I really don’t think think I could handle It I don’t think I would still be alive, I’m not that strong!

    • powerpoes

      I wish I could do something . I hope KS will speak out after BD is release .
      This need to end .

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Why are you that invested in their lives? Important question to ask yourself.

    • JS

      What makes you think RP hurt her, other than in his entirely understandable reaction to what he must have interpreted as her infidelity? My impression is that RP is very deeply in love with her. I think he was extremely badly hurt. The insidious thing about cheating (real or perceived) is that the more the person you cheat on loves you, the more it hurts them and the more scared they are it will happen again . Obviously he still wants her back (assuming, like me, you believe the reconciliation is real) but it’s very difficult for him too. Even if he believes her about the sexual aspect, he must be asking himself why she did this and whether it was a sign that she wanted out of the relationship? Come on, any of us would feel exactly the same! I’m almost certain RP wants her for the long haul. I don’t think he really does “casual” despite the insane reaction if he is even seen talking to another woman. If Kristen doesn’t feel the same way, the moral thing to do would be to tell him now and let him go. Trouble is if he abandoned her now in the state she’s in, I’m not sure she’d hold it together. And RP will know that, so he has to guess whether her devotion to the relationship at the moment is because she loves him too, or just because she needs him to hold on to while she recovers. If it’s just that latter survival response, he will be only too aware he is setting himself up for more hurt down the road. No wonder he has trust issues! Kristen may love RP more than anything else in her life (that’s what she implied in her apology) but, after something like this, she still needs to convince him of that.

    • powerpoes

      First I have to apologize for my english . I’m from Holland . I don’t know what happend. I don’t believe the cheating pictures . All the pictures outside the car and some in the car are fake . The story from the papz is just not consistence with what the pictures are telling . RP seems allright . He has been out having fun . And never said anithing.He could have ask people to leave them alone to fix it in private . Maybe it’s the mother in me that is feeling for KS . I have 2 girls . 22 and 12 yrs old. I hope that if one of them have a boyfriend who proclaime to love them to death and have been with them for 3 years . That he will speak out and ask people to leave them alone for sake of those 3 years together . Even if he is hurting to . I just feel very sad about this because is just not wright to treat a 22 Yrs old so bad . I Do think that KS is innocent and that it’s a SETT UP . Take time and go look at those pics . When I was 24 I was sexually harrased by a friend who was maried to a friend . It took me 5 years to talk about it . I felt I was to blame for being stupid and naive . When I look at those picture of RS and KS I gett the same feeling Something is off !!!!!! . I do respect your feelings about this

    • JS

      Your English is great! I’ve heard the theory that the cheating was a setup. I’m not convinced myself (mainly because of her apology and the her PR pitch after the event) but, of course, it could be so. The thing is though that I think RP thought it was real and that’s what will have driven his reaction. I think he felt very hurt and betrayed, perhaps even that Kristen had rejected him and was effectively terminating their relationship. It’s hard to speak out when you’re in pain and angry. I don’t think it’s fair to expect that of him. His silence is one of the reasons I think this was not a stunt and that he really did love her. If he wasn’t in any pain, his silence would be inexcusable.

      I think you should be hopeful though. She said in an interview that she wanted a lesson in how to cope with bad things (as usual, she said it more crudely than that, but the meaning was effectively the same). She got her wish for sure with this disaster! When your world melts around you, money and fame are fundamentally useless. Love, on the other hand, is very powerful and can save you from the deepest pit. That is her lesson! If she has learned it, she and RP will come out of this fine.

    • powerpoes

      I do think she loves RP . And that her apology was her triying to safe him .
      She took the blame for everything by doing that . She may have kissed RS . She was suprised by him coming on to her. I have Kissed my friend also and let him hold me . And I could feel his body reaction (uh, so disgusting ) .I couldn’t understand why I dindn’t say STOP and felt very guilty for a long time .
      I do understand what you are saying and maybe he was badly hurt and didn’t saw it coming . That is what the tabloids have said . We don’t know for sure . They both looked thin . For me KS looked violated . She Looked very young and small at TIFF . I don’t know why I care so much .
      LOL .Everything is possible

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The world is a kindergarten run by cruel adults. – Modigliani

    • nena

      A cesspool run by evil sadistic overlords

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The Cathars felt the world was evil. So one did not bring children into the world. Love yes. Sex no.

    • pcardax

      Nena, I’m sorry if I have not written to you … I have some hard days. We must try to remain rational. Perhaps this situation can evolve into much better. If it will not, we can still groped to do something to rehabilitate KS. The photos are fake or photoshopped, this can be shown!

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    jenni please do a story on Tamira Thayne of dogsdeservebetter.com. the Examiner did one on her this summer while she was on her honeymoon. they have done a plus one and a negative one, you know the way they do. She is so savvy. Her okrganization raised the money to buy Michael Vick’s dog fighting kennels and turned it into a home for chained dogs awaiting adoption. It is a lovely place. Her story is exciting.

  • lillicat

    Wow, Jenni- you have to admit she looks just beautiful and what great legs. It was touching that her dad went with her to the concert. She might have found it easier to smile if the papz weren’t in her face. Good story. It’s just so good to see Kris out.

    • nena

      Yes it is, I’m sure her dad wanted to help keep her safe since Rob was out of town

  • lillicat

    I love that color of lipstick on her.

  • JS

    Yes, but be aware that is an actual, real, PR stunt. I’m not a fan of the whole relationship/”momentary indiscretion”/reconciliation “was a PR stunt” theories (I think all three were/are entirely real) but I do believe the PR guys are at work all the time massaging K & R’s images at a less, shall we say, fundamental level and this F&tM concert bears the stamp of their handiwork. You don’t catch somebody like Kristen on the way into a concert (out of, maybe, but into?) unless her PR guys have tipped you off. Despite appearances, these are friendly Paps.This is Kristen coming out in public for a non-managed event for the first time since July. She looks unhappy because she wants it to appear as if she’s been caught unawares, but she knew this was going down. Her Dad is there because she wants it made quite clear this is not a “Katy Perry” moment, i.e. nothing for Robstens to worry about! Robert Pattinson really is still the ultimate prize here! This is just low-level rehabilitation, in my view. And not a bad thing. She needs this before BD2. Next up: more of the same or, just maybe, an appearance with Rob (though I’m still thinking they’ll keep that for the premiere).

    • Nena

      So what is your theory on this whole thing? I never thought of this as a PR thing. I wouldnt call it a stunt just good PR, about time. But I think maybe it all depends on what we each believe. I still think it had to be a set up, but it still could be a PR stunt with all involved.

    • Peony

      No matter what it was( stunt/set up),fact is the media and haters have torn her to shreds.Nobody deserves to be treated like she was and is still being subjected to.

    • nena

      You bet. I think Janet said or someone said that even if it was PR maybe the reason she looked so thin and hurt at TIFF is because of the horrible way she has been treated by media and horrible people. So her being thin could be PR or setup. I cant imagine the feelings she has.

    • Gosia

      It can be.
      At the beginning of all this mess I thought it’s stunt of 4 because of baby and getting off Twilight buble.
      Now I think it can be studios stunt with RS for films. His taking a part in it is so disgusting. K/R are victims. The next SWATH script is changed.
      Nobody never cared about K and K/R in studios. Just let them die.
      God I don’t know…, I don’t know… What K/R event will be in next week?
      (whispering… a wedding?)
      I didn’t said anything, anything at all.
      I’m sure she’s pregnant. Look how she is keeping her hands in her pockets on last picks.
      [Oh..., oh..., I'm just stupid old witch...]

    • nena

      Ha you are too cute!! I dont know what is to happen. It is so dirty if RS and wife are involved!!! Your not a stupid old witch……save that for GC

    • Gosia

      I was looking for this post and couldn’t find it at all.

      PR • 4 minutes ago10/7/12
      Hello. I’ve posted here once, maybe someone remember me. I’m not an insider, I just want to share with you something good. Kristen has got a new role and you’ll be very delighted. But that’s still secret and you’ll find out everything after BD promo. Don’t worry about Rob and her, everything’s ok. They’re still together. And at the end, she’s not in NY, she’s in LA . Rob’ll be back in LA tomorrow or at least for 2 days. Bye.

      PR • a minute ago • parent
      Yes. You wont see them together any time soon. Ruth and Nick don’t allow that, because of Rob’s image. Rob is in NY because of new movie (2014 will be shoot) I have to go now. Bye.

    • nena

      On the last bore somewhere go to mew article I’m sure people are mad at me oh well

    • Petranella

      I can only imagine how she has been feeling on a psychological basis.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Just your speculation.You are projecting. And yes, you know how you might feel in her shoes. Maybe she does and maybe she doesn’t.

    • Petranella

      lol yes very true. However, there are reactions to a public lashing such as KS has experienced, that is likely universal. Feelings of violation and exposure.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Just keep emphasizing that the photos are photoshopped. And give them the link. Don’t even acknowledge that she even might have done something. Don’t even feed them a crumb off the floor.

    • lillicat

      Did anyone get on the GC board that even if it was a PR stunt/set-up, there’s much more to it than we know? Someone says it over and over. I believe it, and I”m trying not to be too curious as the old saying goes “Curiosity killed the cat”.

    • nena

      Some was talking yesterday but when I was on today no one said anything. I wish people would not say stuff like that and get everyone all excited. Any ideas?? Was it a credable person? Did they say that it didnt matter if it was PR or set up? Maybe the documentary??? was this on the new article? This needs to end,

    • lillicat

      Yeah nena, it does. There were some strange people on GC tonight. I refrained from commenting, but flagged all the hateful and nasty remarks because that’s what the haters did to you, gosia, and me. I wanted to see if they would be removed. They were not 4 hours later. My take on this so-called new rule against inappropriate language GC has posted at the end of each article is the the abusive comments do not get removed, but the more supportive comments do. That said- I visited a blog called pattinsonintoxicationblogspot.com/2012/10/rob-and-kristen-like-magnets.html. It was recommended not to be a “robsessed” clone. It was really a happy place. I needed something after listening to all the BS. The moderator’s name is rose. I don’t normally hang on sites like this, but I really like this one. Lots of support for our favorite couple, while really funny. Rose has posted a picture of the “secret girlfriend-Jessica”. It’s an afghan hound!!! I almost spit my wine out. She writes poetry as well as the posters. You can use your gmail address to register and comment.

    • nena

      wow really a nice place? unheard of,lol Yeah I think that GC has their pets and only gets rid of good ones. A few of mine were still up but I did something new, at the end of them I wrote :” this probably wont be up for long, and on another I said ok let the bashing begin” who knows, Ill visit the other place!!!

    • JS

      Well, I don’t really have a theory except that I don’t see enough upside advantage to motivate a conspiracy when everybody’s reputation is taken into account. Now I accept I might be wrong but at the moment my assumptions are that the relationship was real, the “fling”, sadly, was real (although I’m not assuming anything about how far it went) and the reconciliation is real.
      If you’re asking why do I think she was drawn into an inappropriate relationship with Sanders, then obviously I can only speculate. We know from his DVD interview how smitten he was with her edgy image and how apparently besotted with her. Maybe she was flattered that someone more mature, who she respected, found her “emo” rebel persona so alluring and the bond grew from that. Maybe she was lonely while filming overseas. I really don’t know.
      So do I think she cheated? At some level, yes! Do I think she’ll do it again? No, not after what’s happened to her. Should people give her a break now? Yes. She made a bad choice, a very bad one for herself as it turned out and she’s paid a heavy price. She’s suffered enough and I really am rooting for her to get back on track which, I think, she is slowly doing.

    • nena

      No matter what I dont think they had sex and I think that it was just that once, other wise why not a hotel? But I dont think she did. I dont know about PR anymore but a set up looks good. Did you see the new Hollywood Life article? In the title she calls RS a jerk, its good and I do think he is a dirty old man. I just dont buy that she is that deceitful> I dont know why it just seem out of character. And Rup does nothing for me. And I dont buy that loney stuff, its not like they were away from each other for that long, think of wives or husbands whose spouce is overseas in the military, they dont all cheat. At least its not me, I just dont think i could have casual sex. I think if no sex was had it would be easier to forgive, Im a nurse so I guess one reason would be STD’s. I think after seeing that short video at the UK premiere when she was telling him no and looked mad that maybe he had said stuff to her before in London but she wasnt buying it, so he tried once more and surprised her, I know it probably sounds dumb but I was 13 ot 14 when it happened to me (no sex thankfully) and you just do what is necessary to get away, so that is why this makes since to me. I was way to young to have any other reaction, KS may have been flattered but ……..

    • JS

      Well, amazingly enough, I actually believe her that it never went to the
      wire sexually. Why? Well first of all she said it and it’s such an absurd thing to claim that it must be true :-) Bottom line: claiming you didn’t have sex after being caught in such a compromising situation is bad PR. Almost nobody will believe you and most will feel you’re insulting their intelligence. You will turn far more people against you than you will win over. So why do it? Because it’s true and you want the truth out there whether anybody believes you or not! But again, I’m unusual in how I look at these things. In PR terms I’d have advised her not to make that claim, even if it was entirely true.

      Secondly, as you say, you don’t meet up with your lover for sex in a Mini
      Cooper (FFS, do you realize how small these things are?) when you could each book a 5 star hotel room out of the small change in your back pockets. And as for the Internet myth of him supposedly “going down on her”? In a Mini f*cking Cooper (to use a Kristen style of expression)? .LOL They’d both have to be circus-level contortionists. And where are the photos of her taking her pants off? Pap must’ve fallen asleep to miss that! Doesn’t stop the myth becoming received wisdom across the world though! Yet another grossly unfair insult to throw at her!
      But, even though I accept her story about the sex, what she did was still deeply inappropriate. I don’t believe that this was all RS’s fault although in moral terms his behaviour is even more reprehensible given that he had two kids. All I see in these photos are the actions of two consenting adults. And to her credit, she has never tried to transfer the blame to him. She confessed to an inappropriate relationship twice, first through her publicist and then via the famous People statement. Something about Sanders reeled her in and she let him do it. My Psych101 guess, which could be complete rubbish of course, is that she’d started to take her emo rebel persona far too seriously as a way of rationalizing her insecurity and guilt about her fame and riches. She started to believe her own propaganda so to speak! And when he was absurdly impressed and pursued her, she was flattered. It wasn’t love (they seemed to abandon each other the instant they were discovered) and we agree it wasn’t sex. So what else could it have been other than ego massage?

    • Gosia

      I don’t know if you’ve read my theory. I insist that she was a victim of violence and he was a very good player. It seems to me for him it wasn’t first girl (actress).
      Kristen hasn’t got too many man-woman experiences (film is not a real life). Her environment was always safe – men she was working with always respected her. She had one boyfriend – Mike (rather friend I think). Then 17 years old Kristen met Robert and their relationship was respected.
      Nobody never pestered her as Rupert did. At first against fence he pressed her with his body without kissing. He overwhelmed her without kissing. She knew him, worked with him so tried to get rid of him in polite way (probably thinking he got insane). He could apologize then asked her for giving a lift (he hasn’t got a car). In the car she had no place to escape. She was like animal in trap. He attacked her once more. She acted like victim of violence. One helps aggressor it’s just common. Believe me.

    • JS

      Well, yes it is possible I guess. We only have the photos to go on and what you’re suggesting is consistent with those. But, I wonder then why Kristen apologised as if she was to blame and why, in the days that followed, her PR reacted the way it did: anonymously saying that there was no sex and that she was really sorry, but never claiming that there was an element of coercion or that she was innocent of any wrongdoing.

      Also, Rob seems like a very reasonable guy so, if Kristen was blameless, why has he reacted as if he was betrayed, or at least allowed his actions to be interpreted in that way? We hear (PR sources again, no doubt) that he believes her now that there was no sex (and, as I said, I believe that too) but never any story that he thinks she was completely innocent. He still apparently has “trust issues” according to Lainey. If Sanders pushed her into this, she would not be to blame in any way and Rob would have no cause to doubt her, yet she hasn’t apparently managed (tried?) to convince him of that!

    • Gosia

      You see we don’t have many photos. From both places we have only 50+ pics as many as from last Kristen outgoing. There is no pics made on-by-one so we truly don’t know what happened there. I think pics were a little (if not more) photoshoped to look worse.
      I think that after this “incident” she just was shocked and broken with reaction of her body, she couldn’t understand it. She don’t love Rupert so why her body reacted in the way it did. She couldn’t explain it to herself so couldn’t explain it to Robert too. Each day it was getting worse and worse.

      After Robert has received these photo they haven’t met so she couldn’t explain herself. It was said he called her asking about pics and she confirmed.
      For him it was a shock, he felt betrayed. If they love each other so dipply with all their senses… (I don’t know if you remember photo session for Cosmopolis made in Paris – he broke it for a while because fotomodel had been touching him too intimately). They both seems too feel very possessive to each other but because they are intelligent they try to calm it down.
      About Apology:
      She’s known she’d met with Rupert and figured out the photos had been made. If she said the photos were fake would anybody believe her? Could she ever prove it?She would be called not only cheater but liar as well and all this “affair” was twice bigger it was. I don’t know…, I suppose she is pregnant (she had known about it at CC meeting). Hence Rob was so devastated even shocked. It was even said that he denied everything and couldn’t talk to anybody (he was said to drunk like sponge). Her publicly apology appeared because she couldn’t talk to him. She told him – momentary indiscretion (nothing more) and love him – bucket of cold water on his head (but it was too little). Her pal’s made quickly statement that “there was no sex involved” (she couldn’t say so – but I suppose it was the second bucket of cold water). Pregnancy sometimes can be seen in 6th month.
      I think they were apart only 7–10 days.
      This is my theory, my imagination. Will see.

    • Gosia

      Well about justice
      I don’t think such a thing has happened in Hollywood the first time. I think there will be only said from mouth to mouth what Ruppert had done. That’s all.

    • Petranella

      I have my own theories psych 101 too. I agree with much of yours and I think that being the gf of a guy who is a big sex god and always being lusted over and after—-and you yourself are always being body slammed as having a boyish body==is part of the ego massage, and very understandable.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No psych to it at all. The photos were photoshopped. Period. http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/10/part-23-sanders-and-stewart-cheating.html The evidence of photoshopping trumps any psychological interpretation of the 2 figures photoshopped from pap pics elsewhere.

      As an addition one sure way to always know quickly is to look at the pixel count. The more pixels, the more focus and detail. When the pixels are different in a pic then you know it is photoshopped for sure. Look at Lynnette’s photos of the “cheating” site: http://www.lynnette-perkes.com/gossip8.htm The pixels are uniform throughout the pictures. Please stop debating with people in a psychological Discourse. You are debating on their turf and you cannot score points on their turf. Move them to your own turf. What I just did.

    • Petranella

      I agree that the PR team is and needs to do something, they have to even if it is just where Kristen is required to appear, duh! but I don’t agree with those saying every small move she makes is designed to rehabilitate her image and get her sympathy.

      Concert: Security who helped a young lady at Monday’s show, was told by him that a few folks at the concert were calling out to Kristen and chastising her as she walked along with security.

  • Gosia

    Hello, new board!!

    • nena

      hello! this disqus wont let me sign in!!!!

    • Gosia

      Nena try to heal it through Disqus account I’ve done so once. Edit settings

    • nena

      K now it works go figure, how are ya? I went on GC yest, I say Im not going top post, just ;looking for info, but sometimes I get mad, yest wasnt too bad though.

    • Gosia

      I’m getting back on GC too (about 11 hours ago).
      You see yesterday I’ve heard a gossip on GC. It was said that the next week there will be an event and we will see them (K/R) or not and there was said that Kristen has samething new, big to do. Now I’m looking for it again. Yesterday there was something strange on GC. There were two bloggers, the same name, arguing mainly with themselves. All their posts disappeared.

      What do you think about both those things?

    • nena

      YES it was guest and guest, I cant keep up with who is one, one is a pro R&K one is against R&K. I saw that about something happening, but the poster said her sister works with one of their publicists or something like that the moniker is PR but alot of people said she was acting like the PR- something person who has a blog that is good. So who knows, I couldnt tell if anyone believed her

    • lillicat

      I brought this up a couple of boards ago. Evidently there are people who steal the monikers of known posters and make statements that are untrue just to get the posters going. There are a couple of posters ( I won’t say the monikers) different people, who are in the PR business, maybe one or both associated with the firm for which Ruth (Kris’ Pub) works. These people jump on, make one post, then jump off. However yesterday one of the regulars figured out that one of these posters was a faker or poser. It was really engaging to see, and I learned a lot. They are always monitoring Twitter for K&R friends, relatives. How in the world do they know who to monitor? Sounds like a full time job. There was discussion about a bag that was or was not shared between R&K. And then the annoying tweets from a girl named Jessica who claimed she was the “secret girlfriend” and that Rob was with her. Sent a blurry pic of someone that may have looked like him in a bar with a full beard. NOT. I didn’t bother looking at it.Probably someone trolling. Since that story crashed, someone else brought up another girl- Nevine something. It’s rubbish to get tongues wagging!
      I just take it with a grain of salt. I guess I would believe the PR posters (it thats who they are or someone like irishgirl) before PH, HL, Celebitchy, TC, or LG. But again, who knows? At least the gossip is positive for a change.

    • nena

      that was who tweeted the pic in the bar with the 2 girls in the front? Ha But guest and guest are annoying! I think some one said it wasnt the same bag but like a his/hers matching bags. I have know idea how they find people!! I would be pissed if I were KS and RP, people make up twitter pages and pose as them. Yeah I would fall for that. Like I said any girl he looks at is his GF. There is a new article at GC, Im waiting to get trashed! ha in the future let me know what the real PR posters say. twitter?

    • ss

      I’ve been reading GC boards, I can’t keep up. Too many comments. There is sooo much stuff going on there, that it’s hard to tell what could be some “legit” hints/info or BS. And with all the goung back and forth people do geez. The boards haven’t been toi bad though. It’s hard to look out for stuff. And as much as I’ve tried to stay up on what is going on….it’s impossible. Lol I mean, I always wonder if those posters on GC have jobs? Lol Because those regulars, have sooooooo many comments. I don’t know how they can know whats going on, any new info possibly, who and what posters/posts to keep any eye out on. Plus the people who steal monikers?smh. Yeah, that’s nothing new. That is why it is it’s hard to tell who is real or fake. Then add, the thousands, upon thousands of comments. Forget it. I miss the awful truth boards. Much easier to stay up on….

  • Peony

    Great to see her spending time with her dad and friends.Even better to see her dressed in her own clothes.There is much more to this young girl than being somebodys past/present/future girlfriend.I am glad shes coming out of the PR stunt carnage.

    • ss

      I hope she goes out alot more. And I hope she gets a bunch of movies lined up (with good roles), with great directors, next year! That’s all that really matters too me. I know RP has some good projects lined up. I’m hoping the same for her.

  • ss

    So now besides the reconciliation stories, all the stories on why RP and KS are not,seen together or why is she in LA and he else where…..now the mystery blond story??? I read amd heard about a “mystery blond” for awhile now. Now that fuzzy pic…hmmmm… I’m not too sure about this “reconciliation” at all. Something smells funny. Just like this whole cheating scandal.

    • ss

      Let me add another thing (and my other comment was suppose to be under the.comment above) maybe the blond is Sienna Miller? Because RP and her went to club together and hung out. And I am a little skeptical of this reconciliation,unfortunately. But I do hope that KS & RP work it out…

  • ss

    And let me add, that yes he maybe he was just close to her bc its hard to hear what the other person was saying. Because clubs are pretty loud and it is hard to hear what people are saying to you, when your speaking to them. Let me just put that out there, before anyone says something lol

  • Gosia

    I’ve just read posts of JS and Powerpos. Thank you for them. I see deep compassion for others human being. That’s what I’m fighting for and looking for.
    I’m finding Kristen innocent because of the reasons you both were talking about. The same innocent is Robert (what was known from the beginning).
    Both are victims of this awful situation.
    They cope, specially with the public aspect of their life quite well I think.

  • Gosia

    I’ve found 2 interest posts on GC (with KK introduction about MaisleJ and Suzie516). they are proving part of my theory (if are true).

    1.
    KK • an hour ago • parentLAgirl: Totally agree, MaisieJ and Suzie516, imo, seemed legit. They hardly ever drop by and when they do they don’t linger or try to defend. They simply state things and leave it up to you to decide (unlike other “insiders”). Coincidentally, both their stories match up almost exactly, even though they are never on at the same time and I believe have nothing to do with one another. Both have elluded that there is more to the story that they are able to reveal that would make Kristen look more favorable, but that some things are “too personal” to share. That is why Rob was able to forgive. Both also elluded that we actually might have seen was the extent of the cheating. Both stated that K&R are together more than ever.

    KK • an hour ago • parent−KK: Does that mean Rob was messing around and Kristen found out I wonder?

    2.
    KK • 44 minutes ago • parentKK: Actually, the opposite. Rob never messed around (one of the two actually stated that). They made it sound like the “more to the story” was information about Rupert. They made stmts like, “He has not endeared himself to many in the industry, etc.” They made it seem (and this is me reading into their fragmented bits of information) like Kristen was in a situation over her head and reacted badly. Like maybe she really thought things were friendly while working on a script for SWATH2 and then bam, he took it a step further and she didn’t know how to get out of it/react. In the end, she was wrong to do what she did but that it was way less than everyone was led to believe. She will forever be mad at the way she handled the situation.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      There is more and I am only going to suggest it in time. You won’t be able to know unless you have been initiated into certain practices. I will not explain. And I am glad they are not either. And yes it does exonerate Kristen. But I don’t believe Rupert was in on the whole thing.

    • Gosia

      Abbeysbooks she’s pregnant. Look:
      On Friday night they were in bar near LF
      http://imgbox.com/abwFvsP3

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s possible. But did she drink last night?

    • Gosia

      It’s not reported but I don’t think so. There was a birthday of their pal the former day. It was said they were there and “drunk” but I think the meaning was “they had a good time”. Paps don’t care about it yet. “Drunk” is still a word without heavy meaning.

    • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

      Go here Gosia she’s not pregnant abbeysbooks have you seen these? http://www.imagebam.com/image/7c21fd215385544

    • Gosia

      When they were done?
      These are not from the same day.
      Anyway it would be better if she wasn’t.
      So many photos “together” after August? I haven’t seen those before.

    • Gosia

      These are pics from today morning.
      Pregnancy subject R.I.P.
      Good for this.

    • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

      Gosia do you have a twitter account?

      Regards,

      Robin Van Dam

      Subject: [crushablecom] Re: Kristen Stewart Looks Like She’ s Back To Her Old Self, And By That I Mean Clinically Unhappy In The Spotlight

    • Gosia

      I’ve found them at last but I don’t use twitter

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      yes. boring.