• Sun, Sep 16 - 1:45 pm ET

Ugh, You Guys — Kristen Stewart And Robert Pattinson Are Back Together

Even as much as we all knew this would happen, I’m still pissed off about it. Having milked the cheating scandal for as long as possible (and longer!), The Sun is reporting that Robert Pattinson has finally forgiven Kristen Stewart, and the two are back together. They’ve even apparently moved back in together, with an insider saying:

“They pretty much decided they couldn’t live without each other. Kristen poured her heart out to Robert and told him it was a one-off and a mistake.”

Well golly, thank gosh for that. Let’s just move right back in with each other mere months before the premiere of the final movie in the Twilight franchise. I sure hope we don’t have any lovers spats or quarrels right before the movie comes out that might give it even more free publicity! We wouldn’t want to distract from the melodramatic story of two vampires trying to be together with the melodramatic story of two humans trying to be together. That would be ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as me now knowing the names Rupert Sanders and Liberty Ross.

They did it, you guys. They successfully used us. The official story is that Robert’s dad convinced him to take back Kristen because he didn’t like what was being said about her in the media, but it’s hard for me to be anything but cynical about this, especially as the pair just moved into the same housing complex as Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. I don’t know why, but that makes me super suspicious that there’s still more going on here. Probably because Brangelina also began their relationship with a cheating scandal, and it lead to the most successful and famous period of both their lives.

Ugh, goddamnit, I’m just realizing now how much time and speculation I’ve wasted on these two — this news broke right around July 25th, so K-Stew and R-Patz officially stole almost two months of my time with this scandal that maybe wasn’t even a real scandal at all but we’ll never know for sure. It’s like the modern mystery of our time, like who killed JFK, or what happened to Amelia Earheart, or why Lady Gaga exists.

Sigh. Oh, Robsten. I wish I knew how to quit you.

(Image: WENN.com)

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  • Pat

    I don’t know what to think now. Just read the Huffington Post and E!News Online and they are saying that Rob and Kristen are not back together but are talking. E! News said they asked their managers and they will not comment on if the two are together or not. Huffington said only one source the Sun is reporting the reconciliation so they doubt they are together. I wish someone would tell us either way. This is getting old but I wonder if this is something Summit set up so people will come out for the movie. After the movie you will hear that they never got back together. If that’s the case I will never see another Summit movie again.

    • nena

      IM starting to feel this way also, I know I shouldnt but I dont like being taken advantage of for money, and if this is a set up that they are taking advantage of KS and RP in a horrible time for them. If they have to fulfil their contract, show up be cordial but not all lovey dovey, let them be, why add to their troubles.

  • northGAgirl

    Alright, after all the mags are reporting their ‘bombshell’ of the week that KStew and RPattz are back together and reading Lainey Gossip (who usually has the right info), I’m even more confused than before. I still believe we are looking at a prank of some kind but I feel like RP was kept in the dark about it and truly was shocked by the photos. Anyone else feel like this could be the case?

    Of course, I could just be over-analyzing everything since my toddler is taking a marathon nap today and I have nothing better to do with my time than read all these ‘stories’ and get my head all fuzzy with different theories.

    Thoughts? Anyone want to attempt to straighten me out?

    • Powerpoes

      someone posted on GC about :: Emmy host Jimmy Kimmel promeses” biggist prank ever pulled “”.This sunday EW Something to do with KS and RP ?

    • lizzy

      Well, how about that, it’s even in People, “…Stewart, 22, and Pattinson, 26, met up in Los Angeles over the weekend of Sept. 15, PEOPLE reports in its upcoming issue…” sounds like an upcoming cover story!
      Hard not to believe that the machinery is not doing this to stop the growing analysis of the photos. If only the rags would have analyzed the photos before buying and running with them, huh? Guess they made a lot of $$ off it though.
      So, how long before photos of all couples involved show up? Orl was marriage actually broken, but news won’t be official until after BD2 to prevent the “homewrecker” label for KS? Hmmmmm

    • Guest

      I never realized before that so many people still thought photos were good proof of something. It never was totally true, old film photos could be manipulated too. But with the digital we use now, it’s not true at all.

    • nena

      so do you think KS is involved in the PR? Why keep RP in the dark, if it is a prank? Hey my mom lives in Mineral Bluff, near you?

    • northGAgirl

      I think if KS is involved then she clearly told RP…at this point I’m so confused and should NEVER read the gossipcop comments…one person over there said KS is sneaking around with RS and they will be a couple in the future…i clearly DO NOT believe that but overall my mind is a jumbled mess.

    • nena

      well I think RS and RP and KS have papz parked where they are so if they left wouldnt their every move be known? What was the reaction to KS and RS over there?

    • northGAgirl

      I agree with you about the paps…and as for GC, I got that the thoughts are all over the place…but I only had the patience to read 20 comments and then the ugliness got to me.

  • ss

    Lainey was “gloating” a little bit (lol) because she was the first one break the story of RP and KS reconciling last week or whenever. People Mag and US weekly, reporting that they are back together. I believe according to US, RP friends are not happy about him taking KS back. And that they cannot stand her, something like that. They are afraid, she might hurt him again. Again, according to “sources.” On a side note: I went to GC boards, and I don’t mind the BS people write there (name calling, hate etc…)because I just skip over those comments (awful truth board was the same way), but there are actual “insiders” who post on there. The same ones who posted on the Awful Truth boards. And the things they posted were right. Just gotta know what too look for. Anyway, what I am windering is, what’s going on with RS and LR.

    • nena

      so did you find out anything from these insiders? what are their names so I know who to read and skip the rest?

    • ss

      Nena, the only problem is people steal “monikers”. And GC comments boards have thousands and thousands of comments to go through. The last article about KS being attacked ny RP fans or whatever, GC debunked. That article alone has 18,000 comments!smh And that oneI’ve been looking at alot, so it’s hards to read every comment that comes up. You literally have to be on that board 24/7 setiously. I would suggest , going to E online. Any article about Rzp & KS. I read on GC boards from some poster “insiders” posting somethings. But rule of thumb: an “insider” doesn’t engage in alot or no dialogue. They usually just leave a brief comment, or are very selective with their words. They don’t argue with other posters. They usually just post something and leave. They are not registered either. People steal monikers so be careful, because there are alot of fakes. They usually din’t post alot. My suggestion, just read others vomments, you will see people saying your a fake or an actual insider wouldnt do this or that. After awhile, you will figure who to look for, what type of comments to pay attention to. They ususally don’t engage in convo. Insiders will give clues out. Insiders to keep an eye out for : *, Real Info, . I know of other “insiders” but the ones apparently that are on those boards as of recently or whatever are the ones I named. I’m just going by what I read, yjat others are saying who the insiders are that are actually posting. There is some different ones too, but I wouldnT know much about them, because I only just started reading GC boards as of just recently. I mean, 18,000 comments?! I couldn’t kerp up if I tried!lol. You can’t believe what people say, but trust there are some people who’ve posted stuff before and it happened or whatever they said to look for, was spot on.

    • nena

      yeah thanks i have no time for that, they argue so much

    • ss

      I would just check out, E online. Any article about RP and KS. Plus those boards are alot smaller. And people were reposting some comments from supposed “insiders”, to GC boards. Just saying IF you ever wanted to check out the boards, to look for “info.” That was it. I only read a little bit,or as much as I can, if time lets me. Looking at GC is like a full time job! Lol Many of those posters post all damn day and night! Lol. I work most of the day, so I don’t have time for that. Plus I watch my little 2yr old niece later. Lol I never would have the time or would waste my day on a GC board. Lol.

    • ss

      I believe it was the * poster, that had apparently posted something about, telling people to keep an eye out and on People Mag and US Weekly. I’m not sure when the *poster, had posted this “tip”. But, from reading the other posters comments, apparently from what they said, that “insider” was right. And the * poster had gave that “tip” before hand, before People Mag and US Weekly had had reported about KS and RP reconciling or whatever it was. The other posters were commenting things like ” you were right” and ” you are a real insider” or whatever. Comments like that. IT’s kinda fun, trying to figure who is fake or who is not.

    • nena

      wow, it takes to log for my comp to load page after page and we have a MAC so idk crushable is ruining my comp I think the mac never had to load before everything was instantaneous.

  • nena

    Wow Lindsay Lohan gets in trouble in NYC hits someone and her publicist says “it much ado about nothing” wow she or he can spin anything, what is she not in jail? It makes me so mad, but her ass in jail, no one including her no good drugie parents care for this child, I know this doesnt belong here, but maybe KS could get her, she could have spun it that it was all RS

    • Gosia

      I don’ catch it. Do you think RS is blamed too much?

    • nena

      oh no its just that since KS has been the only on to be blamed,not Rup at all really that a better publicist would help her prob RP as well! No I dont think RP or KS new about it, they have lost wt and looked sad.

    • Gosia

      They can look sad because of all what’s happened – incredible hate, awful swearing, media hunting and so on. It became a big scandal, was to be an affair.

  • nena

    The lady that Jenni linked that went to the site and took pictures said the fence there is 48 inches tall remember , well she said “the fence is straight as arrow and it’s like a faded gray color not white at all. It’s in the middle of baking sunlight with no shade and looked like it wasnt painted in years and years.” so the magazine pics are so fake because it is curved and white!!!

  • Guest
    • nena

      didnt say much about it tho, but nice to see

    • Guest

      It was in the overall tone of the article.

    • Pat

      @gigi5: Thanks for the link to the Washington Post. Just read the article and it looks like the video did the job. The think the writer thinks it was a PR stunt as well. If she works for the Post she probably had the photographers on staff look at the video before she made her conclusion. It would be embarrassing to say something and then have to retract it so I bet she did her homework first (unlike US Weekly and People did) before she made her statement. Looks like she agreed that the photos were doctored. I have read something similar that came out by the Associated Press yesterday.

    • Guest

      I meant to read that.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Here’s something lovely.: http://crestondavis.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/the-weight-of-the-world/#comment-1330

      The cross double-crosses itself. Nothing holds up anymore—all evaporates like smoke—a smokescreen. Your narrative disintegrates, and nothing more can be said. You are casted out. Your cheating spouse cannot be with you anymore because you remind her of her own shortcoming. Your burden increases, and the desire of someone you never wanted suddenly overtakes you, and the secrets multiply. How can anyone hold such evil knowledge? It is impossible.

    • nena

      wow nice

    • curioushairedgal

      oh, tenaj, only love…

    • Guest

      Thanks.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Whenever you are ready it will be there.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      A great job. Here’s Mi Wei Wei taking on the entire government of china with tweeting. They kidnapped him for 82 days, just disappeared him. People all over the world teeted his disappearance, The Chinese govt released him on bail to pay 2.4 million euros. By the next day 1/2 of that had been sent in, which is how much people love him.

      We did the same altho on a much smaller scale, but it is still guerrilla warfare on the keyboard. We beat the tabloids but Mi Wei Wei beats a govt of over a billion people. Awesome.

    • nena

      hey is there a way on Disqus that if you comment like on GC to someone else it comes up on mine but if I click in it it just goes to the beginning of the article, any way to get it to where you are actually?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If you are following me and I comment to someone else or someone else comments to me it will come up on your discus in your email. You can the reply to me, right from your email account unless it says no reply at the top as it does in adifferentforest. If you want to see the context of my reply go to bottom right and click on context to read. If you like what the other person said you can click on their name and see their profile. If they are registered you can follow then by clicking on the follow button top right. Then every time that person says something the same will come up.

    • nena

      wish they would ask for the photos or press Us weekly to check them out!

  • ss

    According to E! on the So True, So False segment, they said so false to “RP And KS oficially being a couple.” And on GC it’s being said that RP and KS met at Wyeck G. (Twi Producer) to talk about handling promos only. Because “apparently” RP is/has been avoiding KS. He is only talking to her because BD2 promos are coming up. And other than that he doesn’t want nothing to do with her. And that it’s all KS and her PR putting out the “rumors” of her and RP reconciling. They are saying that the “reconciling” is false. Don’t kill the messenger now, just passing on what is being said from GC boards. Everyone is pretty much saying, “nobody knows nothing really” because all of the conflicting reports. Their conclusion is: who really knows if the reconciling is really true or not. And maybe RP and KS are just “reconciling” for upcoming promos. But not reconciling in their actual personal relationship with eachother. Like I said just passing what people at GC are saying.

    • nena

      the tv show E just said they didnt know if they were an official couple and talked to the girl that tweeted about seeing them in sherman oaks said it was a white mersades and kristen girl from twilight was driving so who knows

    • Pat

      @nena:Nena I was so afraid this was going to happen. I think I posted awhile back that they would break up after the movie opening weekend revenue was in. It is funny that GC never reported on anything the other sites were saying when they thought they were getting together. GC stayed quite. Guess Nick was controlling them. I think that tweet was false. Wonder who the girl really was if it was true? I don’t see Kristen in a white mercedes. Maybe Katy Perry, Shannon Woodward, or any of the other female friends he parties with while Kristen works or stayed at home cooking for him. She ought to bake him a nice batch of Ex- lax brownies and offer them to him just before the red carpet walk. I’d love to see that carpet walk run through. There is Rob everyone- waite there goes Rob – quick get his picture.

    • nena

      Idk E said they talked with the girl, who knows so I wonder if Nick was saying that they arnt together by saying nothing and not Letting GC say anything,or he wasnt happy about it so didnt tell them anything

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Can’t know. But for sure Nick is not giving up his huge meal ticket with Rob Pattinson anytime soon and never without a fight. He is young, inexperienced and very very hungry. Shakespeare: “Behold yon cassius, a lean and hungry man.”

    • Pat

      @abbeysbooks: I looked up Nick’s address and he has to be making a killing to have an office where it is. Is Rob his only client?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Rob is his major client. Nick was nothing much before Rob. Producer of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia and a few unknown clients. I think he took Rob on when Rob was nothing and Rob is staying with him out of loyalty. Poor decision. He travels with Rob, rides in cars to premieres with Rob, so spends a lot of time talking with him I am sure. Bad influence.

      Sometimes when you love a man you cannot win against the influences that are trying to take him away from you. Dominique Francon knows this in Fountainhead. So she sets out to destroy Roark. That way they can’t take him away from her. She will do it first. Her way. Kristen apologizes and humiliates herself far worse then Rob is humiliated by those faked pics. This is a challenge. Can he meet it? IDK. I think I doubt it though.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You cannot believe anything HL says. As they throw darts at the target, sometimes they may accidentally hit the bull’s eye.

    • nena

      ha good point

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I try.

    • Pat

      @nena: I watched E!News tonight and they did say in the So True/So False part that the getting back as a couple was so False. They did report something about a tweet though but I was so shocked about the so False I tuned the rest of it out. I thought well here we go again. I heard on GC that the girl was really an old girl friend he was with and he had purchase an appartment for her in New York. He was there the entire time they said he was at Reese Witherspoons. Have you read the Forbes article yet? Read it and let me know what you think? I don’t know what to believe any more. I just wish November 16 would get here and get over with.

    • nena

      I hope that RP would be more mature then that, I cant believe he would do that I mean really, not even giving someone a chance to explain and then make a decision, If you could do that then how could you really say you were in love with someone, do you agree ss?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well I do. I had it happen to me once. Accused by a bf of something I didn’t do. He wouldn’t speak to me so I called him out in public, explained just what went down loudly, finished, walked off and never bothered with him again.

    • nena

      well crap

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I will say this. That if a guy I had been with for 4 years refused to speak with me about this for a week and 1/2 I would suffer for those 10 or 11 days but at the end of them I would not go back on the same footing. And maybe not at all. That would depend on how old I was at the time. After 26 no I wouldn’t go back. Before that I was pretty much gone baby gone., but I don’t think I was as serious as they were at that age. Yes I loved terribly but I also had a very rational side. I wasn’t about to get pregnant and have to get married.

      It’s hard for me to imagine he could have done that to her but at the beginning I did think that he did and that’s what I wrote. My feelings and thinking have changed a lot on this in these 8 weeks. I am much more interested in the media angle and the sociological aspect with the fangirls. I think they are like rabid animals over it in their desperation to condemn her for “cheating”. It is really just a desperation to protect monogamy and marriage, an institution at great risk since all marriages have a 50./50 chance of ending in divorce. I sure wouldn’t play roulette with my happiness on those odds, so I guess people just feel they can win the lottery on that one.

      If it is true, then that is the reason the furor took off. If she had said nothing and they just appeared together, then the photoshopping would have continued. And would have come out. But I admire what she did so much more even tho it might not work to her immediate advantage.

      The question still is: Do you want to raise children with a man who would condemn you before listening to you and not speaking to you for 10 days? Anyone used to reading movies can read these pictures very ambiguously. If you can’t, then the problem is yours, not the fault of the pictures or the person in them. Intolerance of ambiguity is an attribute of the authoritarian personality. The authoritarian personality is the psychological counterpart of fascism. Fascism is both individual and political. See Life Is Beautiful to understand what I mean if you don’t already.

    • nena

      I get it, they are closed minded people, who want to be right even if they arnt, they arnt going to change their mind. I dont get what you met about them just appearing and the photoshopping contuined and then would have come out?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Wars have been fought and millions died just because people wanted to be right. It is a deadly affliction throughout history. So easy to fall into its ways. You just slide into it and it feels so right. You can feel so justified no matter what you did or what they did or what both of you said.
      I could have handled that long ago incident better. when he wouldn’t speak to me I could have said, “Are you interested in what I have to say about it?” “Would you be willing to listen to me?”

      If he did then it was the public humiliation of the pics that got to him first. It is obvious that Rob is impulsive, a drinker not too excessive this far, an addictive personality (nicotine) and not as secure in his acting skills as she is. He has often mentioned his career in interviews in a way that reveals he thinks about it. Never does she do this. she was a very mature 17 year old when they began Twilight. He was a very immature 21 year old. With a past history that Catherine Hardwicke was apprehensive about.

      He’s a wild, enchanting, beautiful Celtic troubadour. A wild card. Not your usual husband material.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: I think he still likes to live that life style. Look who his friends are in LA. I think the problem is he is conflicted with his first true friends from the UK. They are maturing and have settled down, some even have families of their own now. Look at Tom who now has a soon to be wife and a baby. I haven’t seen him going to bars getting drunk like he did before meeting Siennia. He has vacations with his family instead of parting all night and bar hopping with girls. Even Marcus Foster has matured and settled down so that only leaves Bobby Long who already seemed a little more mature than Rob to start with and will probably follow the others soon. Andrew Garfield want have anything to do with Rob. So who is Rob running with the most now that his other friends have families? He is with those 9 years younger or those his age but are very immature and jump from one relationship to the next. He is doing the only thing he knows how to do but from what I have seen it doesn’t look like he is having as much fun as before. I think he is stuck between his real first friends moving on with life while he is still trying to find his footing and wanting it to go back to how it was before they moved on. Kristen was his only very mature relationship in LA. She stroked his self estem and made him feel confident with his acting ability. Maybe he is gaining some false confidence and feels like he doesn’t need her anymore so this is his way of getting out. Katy Perry did say he had an edge to him now he didn’t have before. Which I think she is a bad influence on him. Maybe he is jealous of her and Taylor having a big studio sign them for movies. It seems like his attitude started changing towards Kristen and Taylor when she got SWATH and he got ABDUCTION and the critics were saying Rob’s career was bottoming out since WFE didn’t do what they expected box office wise and Bel Ami was pulled from some theaters because of low attendance in the others. Then he got Mission Blacklist but it is an Indie. I guess it will take a blow like a box office failure or getting arrested with his new friends for him to realize he should have stayed with the one who loved him for just being himself. Not Americas’ heart throb, someone that could be seen with to help their career, or someone who builds him up so they can use him for personal gain. I think Kristen just loved the goofy shy British guy she met at Catherine Hardwick’s house. She did say in an interview that she picked Rob because he was shy and didn’t think he was a star like the others did. It is just sad but I think he will regret his decision when his friends are with their families and he is left standing on the outside with the party goers.

    • Pat

      @abbeysbooks: It wasn’t only Catherine Hardwicke who was apprehensive about Rob. Chris Weitz made the comment in an interview with ETalk that he was glad Rob had a shirtless scene in NM for maybe he would go to the gym and stay out of the bars. David Slade said he worried that Rob was staying out all night drinking and coming on set with hangovers. So I think Rob might need to settle down some before he starts a lasting relationship and a family. What do you think?

    • Gosia

      Yes, I think he needs family and children, he starve it.
      I think he can feel lost, not reaching the ground. All his friends have family and children he wanted so much for years.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s clear you have followed him closely with an observant eye. Me too. Cronenberg was an evil influence for him. Cronenberg wants him for a variety of reasons. Kristen was in the way.

      Rob destroyed his image with his peer age group as the most intelligent and political ones are with Occupy in one way or another. By trotting along on Cronenberg’s leash to the NYSE to adoringly smile at the Cronenberg while he rang the opening bell did more to damage his image with his peer age group than any forgiving of Kristen. He is obviously surrounded by idiots, who were unknowns when they first began with him and are just more riding his back to try for the golden ring. They are not experienced in this sort of thing and have given him poor advice or none at all.

      I wrote to Cronenberg priority to read my blog on Cosmopolis so that Eric Packer would not go down in lit crit as a self-destructive loser, as they all say he is. He is Francisco in Atlas without the premeditation. An epiphany moment when he sees the Burning Man. Well Cronenberg blew me off, told his actors not to read the book, and burning the message of the novel while driving a stake through the heart of Don DeLillo.

      We can only hope now that Herzog will turn him around. He is Rob’s last chance.

      Kristen is a Nietzschean heroine to be compared with Dominique Francon in Fountainhead. I like talking about all this that way. All my comments from my twilight blog are in limbo but you will love them when I get them back. Not an easy job though.

    • nena

      But Taylor really hasnt done all that well> It is sad because it sounds like he only has hie peeps as friends not his true friends, I cant think Tom S. is badmouthing KS, she said at TIFF that her and Tom worked so close on OTR doing research, and he did say at the London OTL that he would not discuss friends. The really sad part is by the time he figures all this out KS will have moved on, even tho lets say he is her one true love she may say no. I love the part in New Moon when after Jacob pulls her out of the ocean and they go back to his house she thinks alot about J and E and if she should commit to Jacob the small part of her heart that is left,that she knows she loves jake but its nothing like the love she knew she was capable of, snd her heart would always be searching for her love. I said yes to my girls but she would be happy but not totally happy, a part of her was gone and would never feel totally at peace.She would love Jacob but not IN LOVE with him she will always be IN LOVE with Edward. I do think that is RP for her she may be in love later with someone else but not the same and its the same for him. IDK im a romantic but I could relate to Bella there

    • Chancellor

      @nena: The Taylor and Kristen movie thing. I saw an interview from Comic Con when MTV’s Josh Horwitz was interviewing the three of them for BD1. Josh looked at Kristen and Taylor and said they had done action films with big studios and he wanted to know how it felt to work on sets where the production cost was in the high millions. Were they under more preassure since they knew there was more at stake in cost than an Indie movie would be to make. Then he turned to Rob and said that he didn’t have any action roles coming out this year did he? Rob looked devastated. Kristen spoke up and said Rob was more of a Lover than a Fighter and he had Bel Ami coming out and soon would have Cosmo. Then Josh started asking Rob about working with David Crononberg. Rob still didn’t look very happy and a little depressed. Rob knew Cosmo. was an Indi. This was the same time articles were coming out saying Rob’s career was over since he hadn’t gotten any more offers. Mission Blacklist and Rover was offered to him after this and before BD2 Comic Con came up. At the MTV VMAs they had live stream of back stage you could watch on your computer. I watched the Talent Prep Room and when Rob came in he first ignored Taylor until Taylor finally walked over to him and shook his hand. They were standing at first no more than three feet from each other, looking at each other when Rob came in. Taylor smiled and waved but Rob just turned his back on him and started talking to Wynick Godfrey. Taylor looked embaressed and confused at how Rob acted. I had also read that after Eclips there was friction between Taylor, Rob and Kristen but you can’t always believe what you read. I don’t think Tom S. ever bad mouthed Kristen nor did Marcus Foster. Bobby Long I don’t know about. It was the female friends of Rob’s I think were doing the trash talking about Kristen and they were just jealous of her in my opinion. I think Rob would like to have what his UK friends have but he is conflicted about moving on and away from the life he is living now. Or maybe it is Nick who wants to keep him in the shadow of Edward and America’s Heart Throb Fantasy Boy. It would be hard for Nick to sell Rob’s image this way if Rob was to settle down with a wife and children. I also loved New Moon. This whole mess with Rob and Kristen sort of made me think about New Moon when she thought about kissing Jacob but even though Edward was gone she still couldn’t give him up and would go on loving him even if she never had the chance to see him again. So sad. :(

    • nena

      Yeah New Moon was very insightful to me, I could relate much more then I wanted to and have had a few good cries listening to the audio book. How can I watch that VMa live stream, did it show KS and RP talking cuz they supposedly were very intense? I wish RP and KS would move to London, much more calm there many have said. Nick needs to go and I dont even know the man but dont like him!!!!!

    • Chancellor

      @nena: Kristen was not at the VMAs she was at the premiere for On the Road. I think you are talking about the MTV Teen Choice Awards where the rumor got out that Kristen told Rob about the pictures coming out when they were backstage before they went on stage. They said the conversation was tense and Rob looked like he was devastated before they went on stage. I heard that is when he told her he didn’t want to see or hear from her again and that is why he gave the audiance his surf board award. They didn’t have back stage live stream that I could find but I wish they had.

    • Chancellor

      @nena: I ment to add this in my post above. I agree with you. I think they would do better in London and leave Nick in the US. I always wondered why Rob was always saying in interviews that he was not rich and had to be cheap to have money. I wondered if maybe Nick is holding his money and just giving him an allowance and that is why he is so cheap? I saw on Nick’s bio that his office was in Beverly Hills or Bel Air (I can’t remember which). Both of these addresses are very expensive places to be in. If Rob is Nick’s only client then Rob is paying him to much and he needs to find someone who can be his manager without sucking all his money away for themselves. If this is true. I also heard Nick does not like Kristen. Maybe because Kristen is giving Rob business advice? I am not a big Nick fan either.

    • nena

      someone said maybe even you, that Nick wants to keep him doing big budget movies so he can get more money, but Rob and KS like indie which Nick wouldnt get such a big amount of money, so he wants KS out

    • nena

      you were talking about the talent prep room on the post right above where you were talking about CC and Josh H asking about big budget movies. so does the TCA have the talent prep room? look at you long post right above.

    • nena

      What were you talking about above in the talent prep room?

    • nena

      I tried to find the talent prep cam video but I cant ever seem to be able to find stuff

    • Chancellor

      @nena: they were doing the live stream the same night they aired the VMAs. You had to go to the MTV website and click on live viewing. It took you to four small boxes at the bottom of the screen where you could click on which area you wanted blow up to view live. They had back stage, hallway, Talent Prep Room, stage Manager (Stage Exit) and Audiance. You could view them all at the same time or select one to blow up bigger for viewing. I found it by accident but it was better than watching it on TV which I was doing too with the sound turn down. Next year go to the MTV website.

    • nena

      ok thanks

    • Guest

      I don’t believe they hadn’t already talked about it before the photos were public.

    • nena

      yeah, Pat above here said maybe RP and LS and RS were in on it and maybe RP didnt really love her and was stringing her along to keep the B&E thing going, I dont know tho, but if he cant even listen then he might not have, but who knows they may never have seperated and all these stories are fake

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      All speculations are plausible.

    • Pat

      @nena: I have calmed down some now. Took a break and ate a pint of Ben and Jerry. Sorry my keyboard is sticking so if you see a miss spelled word I blame the keyboard. Nena, I am hoping that when Jmmy Kimmel does the Emmy Awards his big prank is Rob and Kristen. I guess I am just ready for this to get over with and I am tired of the might be, might not be. I think Kristen has been hurt enough for a kiss. If Rob is giving her up for real then he was not mature enough to have her and will regret one day that he let others influence his decisions. I hope he stops and thinks for himself before it is to late for she want be alone for long. There are to many out there who are waiting for him to step a side and he will end up with someone who controls him for their own selfish needs or someone who is immature and will ruin his reputation by doing stupid stunts. If you have contact with the video maker would you ask her why she put Liberty in that shirt? That has been bothering me for a while. Thanks!

    • nena

      what shirt, the one like RP?

    • Pat

      @nena: In her first conspiricy video she has a picture of a guy (who is Robert Pattinson) standing with a black shirt on that says Weird Trip (or something like that) on it and then she shows a picture of Liberty walking out of her house with the same shirt on except the sleeves are cut off. The guy (Rob) had that shirt on in the Blackbook magazine that came out in June. Hollywood Life ran a picture on July 24 of Katy Perry in Miami reading Blackbook and Rob was in the book with that shirt on. They were trying to say Katy would be dating Rob soon since she was reading all about him. They will make up anything to sell gossip.
      I was just wondering why the girl put that in her video when she could have picked any picture of them to post. Does she think there is a connection or were these the only pics. she had? Just curious. They said in Blackbook that the shirt Rob had was vintage. Go back and look at the video it is towards the end before you see those of L naked.

    • nena

      I sent her a email right now, dont know the time difference from here and Japan so dont know when she will get it

    • Pat

      @nena: Thanks for sending the email. My husband works for a company in the US that owns a company in Japan. My husband is a CFO (short for Chief Financial Officer, not texting, Hee Hee) for his company and has to call Japan for video conferences with the managment in Japan. We are on Central Time where we live so if he calls Japan at 6:00 p.m. Central Time it is 8:00 in the morning in Japan. So I guess they are around 14 hours ahead of us.

    • nena

      No problem

    • nena

      the naked pics were strange!! I emailed the girl and asked if she thought something was going on between rob and lib and was that why she included the picture of each with the same shirt? She said NO, I think she is mastermind…” and she said that she only included it because she thought that Lib was saying “oh look at me I;m so young I can dress like this” this girl is very funny, she lives in Japan, never emailed anyone over seas!!

    • Pat

      @nena: Thanks for finding this out. It kind of bothered me since I heard Rob say in an interview for Bel Ami he always liked older women but I think he was joking. I hope. Those were weird pictures. Who would pose for pictures like that if it wasn’t for Playboy and I think they like girls with more meat on their bodies and less bone. I can’t believe Liberty would want someone to see her that way. Was it an advertisement against anorexia like that other model did several years back? Thanks again for checking on that. I feel much better now!

    • nena

      yes I thought they were ugly !!!! I think its ironic that she can pose like that in pics that are not attractive but KS will get put down big time for OTR

    • Chancellor

      @nena: I tried to post above but it would not go through. In the post from me to you above I ment the movie Speak Kristen was in.

    • nena

      you should register on Disquis

    • Chancellor

      I’ll try to do that. Thanks.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I think they had talked about it before also.

    • nena

      I do to, I still wonder if he did find out about it from a call, wouldnt they have called KS people also? And one article said that he demanded she make a public apology so who knows… I think he wants to have a family, he made a comment about being in a relationship because he loved the girl, didnt take it lightly, I have always said he isnt sure of himself as an actor, that he deserves the attention. I wonder if he prob felt lucky that KS fell in love with him and was maybe alittle afraid she would find someone else. I wonder about the stories of them being at a LA club sunday or about the girl who tweeted she saw them in a car?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s not for us to know. I think his relationships with girls before did not go anywhere. He was not long term material in their eyes. He was a troubadour, and he wanted to be loved. He still does. Warren Beatty criticized Bill Clinton for this when all that went down. If a man you are involved with wants to be loved, by people not even important to him, it is bound to be very difficult. He can’t help it. But seeing his mother and his family I do understand it.

    • nena

      a thought maybe before he was too involved in being an actor, and now that he was with the girl he wanted to meet and love for along time and the career was going better he was ready, just a thought

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes. Of course. He could feel like a man not a boy. But he keeps allowing people like Cronenberg to treat him like a boy. Kristen doesn’t allow anyone to do that.

    • nena

      hopefully he will realize this but it may take longer without KS

    • Guest

      They’re only in their 20s.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He won’t without her. He needs her as a foil just as she needed him to feel fully feminine. He lacked all assurance in NYC at the Cosmopolis promotions. Cronenberg was a fake and on some level I think Rob knows this. He must feel so awful with these male directors who want him, then who use him for their own purposes. Not Herzog though. This will be different for him. I think Herzog wanted him for Rob’s sake not his own. He sees what is going down. I hope Kristen gets to know him.

    • nena

      I don’t get what you are saying about needing him feminine? Foil?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      They compliment each other. Both are less without each other. You also said this so I know you see it. I think each one feels a loss that is more than the loss of the person but a loss of a part of themselves. They give each other so much. But that can begin to feel draining. A tight tightrope to walk.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: I have been over at GC and just got back to read your comment. Tell me if I have this mixed up or not. What you were saying is that Rob should have told Kristen if you do this the consequence will be this. I am kind of confused on this. I taught elementary school for 25 years and I was always upfront with my children the very first day. We had rules to follow and they knew the consequences for breaking the rules. The thing is handing out the consequence (punishment) for breaking a rule some- times depends on the circumstances that caused you to break the rule. Circumstance being the reason for the degree of the punishment or if one is needed at all. I think Rob might be one who is to strict with his judgment calls because he thinks others will think less of him if he weighs his decision first . He makes a decision without looking at the entire picture of why the rule was broken. I don’t think he is emotionally mature enough to reason that he should investigate before making a rash judgment call on a person. I look at who he associates with and they are either much younger than he is or around his age but very immature emotionally. If this is true what he is doing then he needs to mature before getting into a relationship with anyone. I think his pride was hurt and he does not know how to make his on decisions so he is letting others control what he does and says. He still needs an authority figure over him. Like a parent leading a child since he has not matured enough to be independent of an authority figure. Kristen is mature to me. She is independent and does not allow others to influence her decisions. She acts like she is on the same maturity level with someone who would be in a authority position. I don’t see her being influenced by others as quickly. I was over at GC and read your comments which were very well thought out. Do you think the insider is Haters Know Nothing? I have seen her/him on other sites and they seem to only give clues.

    • nena

      I agree, as I have said before, he isnt sure of himself in the HW role, he wants to be liked here in the US, he cant believe or feel worthy of his success. He cares to much what people think of him and really I think most of HW people do care to much what fans, peers,directors think of them, that they can get more parts if liked, few people like KS dont care. I think he is listening to the stupid around him that are telling him that he will be weak if he gets back with her see what she has done to you. IF what the others are saying that he has had a GF jessica D. IN nyc then THAT would be so hypocritical of him and he would have to know if its true it would be found out. And would really come to bite him in the butt if found out aft he has acted like the wounded person. KS and RP were born in different countries, raised differently, I think she had to grow up fast on a set, school on the set with no real peers, she was mostly with older people,I think she had to let her childhood go, I wonder if, if she could do it over would she have liked to have a childhood more like Dakota Fanning? Making movies but going home and being a normal teenager with people your own age. RP went to school, had more friends lived a more normal life, he has sisters and she has only brothers. I think he will so regret it if he wont stop and talk at the least, and if he wont forgive her for a stupid kiss, she is the only positive thing in his life and career. My opinion only

    • Chancellor

      @nena: In an interview when she did Speak she said she had attended school up to the age of 11 or 12 (can’t remember). She said the girls would get in clicks and bully her since she looked kind of boyish and she didn’t like the same things they liked since she grew up with brothers. They would call her weirdo and homo and other vile words. She did Panic Room and found a home school/tutoring school who taught children actors on set. That is how she finished her education and felt like she got a better education for it was tailored to her needs and she didn’t have to go through peer preasure. I think she did miss the other activities like dances and clubs. I agree hit seems he did live a more normal life since she practically grew up on a movie set. Poor kid. I think the tough attitude she shows is a mask so she doesn’t have to show her insecurities and low self estem when she is around women. Have you ever noticed how much more nervous she is in an interview when the one interviewing her is a woman? She has always gotten on great with guys and I think she has more guy friends than girl friends. Thanks for answering me.

    • Chancellor

      @nena: nena I ment the movie Speak in the above post.

    • nena

      Yes I agree, growing up with brothers she was a tom boy but I dont think her mom is a girly girl either, because is she was she could have been also. She was with adults most of the time and you dont get to relate to the stupid girl things which is good and bad. I agree with the mask, she wants to be this badass and she is which is fine, she pushes others away who dont understand her and thats ok but sometimes it has to hurt, I think RP and KS sort of balance each other out, she is to serious and he is fore funny laid back. I loved the movie Speak, I thought she did so well in it, but Im sure that is the way she felt in school in her own life. I had my girls watch it last year

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I meant the people advising Rob should have framed their advice this way. Not that Rob should have advised Kristen, but that they should have conferred as to the best way to handle cleaning up the spilled soup.

      I like the way she did it BTW. Much like a Nietzschean strategy, much like Dominique in Fountainhead. OK off Rand.

      I too taught for many years and I agree with your assessment of Rob. did you see Monsieur Lazar? My review is here and you resonated with his classroom http://moviesandfilm.blogspot.com/2012/06/review-monsieur-lazhar.html?zx=5bb36a4cd3c2e5b1

      I also wrote about Kristen and Rupert as her director reading through Baudrillard on that same theme of authoritarianism and permissiveness which is a wobbly boundary.
      http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/08/an-open-letter-to-rob-pattinson.html

      And just for fun this one:
      http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/09/kristen-auditions-for-furious-in.html

      Thanks for reading me with understanding. I just got banned from a different forest (a twilight comment post site with fanfic authors and readers trying to do the next 50 Shades.

    • nena

      why were you banned? they didnt like your pictures or videos?? I sent you a email

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Just for confronting them on bashing Kristen issues. I think my comments may all be wiped out also. Actually I deliberately pushed them to the limit and then kept pushing. they can’t take the heat but they won’t get out of the kitchen. It gave me exactly the proof I needed to know who they are though, which is what I really wanted as well as to defend Kristen.

    • nena

      good! Why cant they see the forest for the trees? why so closed minded, it takes 2 well in this case 3 or 4 to have problems.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Can you go there and get Fantasy Mother’s email. I want to get in touch with her.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: Well watch out for the ones named Tina, @Joy, Guest (not the one here though), @Anige (she followed me to every site) ,Jane, DH, John, Teddy, and I could go on but those are the worst ones I have seen. Hope they don’t come here for some of them have some of the most vile verbal spewing I have ever read. They don’t want to think or give anyone else the chance to voice an opinion if it does not agree with the one they just spewed.

    • nena

      A Lizzy over there ripped me a new one and I was nice and not even responding to her!! Hope its not the same one from here. I have posted over there exactly 3 times, no more!

    • Chancellor

      @nena: Yea, Lizzy and @Joy will tag team you if you say anything that they may percieve as a kind word for Kristen and you don;t even have to be a big Kristen fan. I was a big Rob fan before the haters came out. Tina (who I think is also Lizzy) is just as bad if not worst. She goes at you without even reading what you posted. She went after me and I swear the girl has no reading comprehension or reading skills at all. I am now considered by Tina, as written by Tina (U R A SKHOE whoze Hub iz runing A Rond on U like Trampire did 2 Beautefol Rob) I was posting the definition of unconditional love and discussed with another poster who agreed with me that a relationship is not perfect you have to be able to forgive and work to make a relationship long lasting. People are not perfect so if a partner makes a mistake they should try to work together to solve the problem if they can instead of just cutting off the relationship. The other poster said maybe that is the reason there are so many breakups now. People pick their partners and don’t unconditionally love each other so when something happens they don’t want to try to work to find a solution to the problem. We did not address Tina at all until she attacked both of us with @Joy’s help. I had to ask the teenager next door what U R A SKOE ment. She just laughed and told me what it was but they spelled it wrong. It is so funny to me that their comments are very limited vocabulary wise. Makes me wonder if they got past 5th grade. They stalk people just looking for someone to attack. Reminds me of sharks. If it comes out that this was a prank or a setup by the Sanders I would love to track down those haters and give them a tast of their own medicine no matter how immature of me it would be. The only thing would be I would have to ask a fifth grader for some words I could use since I don’t know slang and I don’t text so the U R A SLZ and LOL along with U R SKHOE is all I have found out the meaning for when I was called this repeatedly at GC. Sorry I am 51, my generation talks and writes in complete sentences and try to spell out all of the word. Nena I started posting on my comments when they attacked me that they had just made one more fan for Kristen with each vile word they spewed. I don’t know if they understood but maybe it will all be over soon. Hopefully Sunday after the prank is announced.

    • nena

      they are so sad! This has been such an eye opener for me, I have never posted on a blog until the whole thing started, so really understanding how HW works is sad, I knew crap happens but not to this extent. And reading what those people write over there is beyond words, I cant understand speaking to someone like that, If it was in person hopefully they would not be as vile, but some probably would. Another very sad thing is I wish so much that things work out as at least one of our theories, Hopefully Summit and the sanders, I still cant believe that LS and RS could do something like this have they on conscience? How are they raising their kids? Boy they have a love for Lib over there!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The hacker boyz said they checked out a different forest and the admins are the same ones from robsessed and fanfic net, just the new site is the same as the old site, That is where MY guest one is coming from from what she says. I don’t fight with them and explain and defend. I just link them to something they can read. They hate that. But someone else will come along, read their vomit and see how I replied and click on the link. so they can be used very well and easily. They can’t get the violence they want from a diff forest so they come here or there or anywhere. It’s all good as Eric Packer would say. It is proof of the types of fans rob has. Not all of course, but the masses of them, the ones who follow him, stalk him, the ones he caters to because they are there. He is complicit in this and needs to throw them under the bus. They wouldn’t hang around Jon Stewart’s studio or Letterman’s if they didn’t know that he secretly liked it. Kristen knows this. Who wants it?

    • Guest

      He knows it’s Edward they stalk.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      They have Edward mixed in their minds, but they are already looking at hunks because the admins are displaying them at diff forest. At robsessed the fans are dwindling as it is robsten they love, robsten the cash cow.

    • Guest

      Maybe.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      They are stalking Edward /Rob to see him in person, get a camera pic they can tweet, get it on robsessed for their 5 sec of fame and lord it over the other fangirls.

    • Guest

      I see.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Disheveled. For the stupid fangirls.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: Remember when the article came out about the U-Haul van at Rob’s house. There was a poster that tried to confront some of Rob’s fans over on Hollywood Life (vile, fiction site for haters) about why this was not real. She gave her reasons for why Kristen would not have hired a U-Haul to move her stuff out. She also made note that the truck was parked outside a closed gate even though it looked like a driver was in the driver seat. Her other reasons were very logical too. The haters attacked her and the other poster named Gentle Soul who agreed with her. I have never seen as many four word sentences filled with hateful words in my life. They told her she was mentally disturbed, retarded (hate that word), tardo, needed to take her medication, she was a skank and slut like Kristen, whore defender, and it just kept getting worst. Anyone who posted in her defense was treated the same way. Then Gentle Soul said something that stuck. She called them small minded with a very limited vocabulary who thought of nothing but hate all day to be as good as they were at coming up with vile comments. She said she would ask God to forgive them for they were to immature and closed minded to view others with respect and kindness. She also posted that she felt sorry for Rob since he had followers like these who voiced hatred towards others and wanted their pictures taken with him at premieres and interviews but were not big enough supporters to support him at the box office all these years. How embarassed he must be to have followers like these. I liked her comment and the haters left the site for awhile but came back with a vengeance later on. So I guess as the saying goes once a hater always a hater (Hee Hee, as they would say once a cheater always a cheater)

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      As Vija Kinski says in DeLillo’s Cosmopolis, “There is no outside.” Meaning that within the system , the Order of Production, irriversibility rules. Which means that the Dominating Discourse of pro and con, right and wrong, up and down, contains its own opposites and is strengthened by them. So the more they are confronted the more they are fed by it and the stronger they grow. So what to do.

      We turn to Nietzsche and Baudrillard. We do what they are doing only we do it “worse” , we do it excessively. This is what Ai Wei Wei is doing in China. One man using twitter is holding off the entire Chinese Government. He is an artist, a conceptual artist. They bulldoze and destroy neolithic sites of archaeological treasure. Ai Wei Wei takes neolithic pottery and has hired helpers as in an assembly line, paint over them in garish kitchy designs in primary colors and sells them as art. He ruins them as a statement and says fuck you to the Chinese Govt. They kidnap him and disappear him for 82 days and there is a world wide count down. He is released on probation that won’t allow him to say anything, with a 2.4 mil euro bail. the next day half of that money has been sent in. He goes on and on saying someone has to do it. Someone has to fight for freedom. After an earthquake horror where “tofu” housing crumbled and killed all the children in the school he began gathering names of the dead. volunteers gathered names, hundreds of thousands and he made art out of listing their names shown in London.

      You push to extremes. This “SCANDAL” has been pushed to extremes. No one knows the truth about anything any more. I have deliberately set out to muddy the waters so bad that no one will ever know anything about it. there will be no solution, no closure, no finality to it. Everything is speculation now. all plausible speculation. thousands of speculations out there now. Which is correct? None of them. Each one of them is true from the point of view of the person interpreting. all are true for each person. The Rashomon Effect.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      As Vija Kinski says in DeLillo’s Cosmopolis, “There is no outside.” Meaning that within the system , the Order of Production, irriversibility rules. Which means that the Dominating Discourse of pro and con, right and wrong, up and down, contains its own opposites and is strengthened by them. So the more they are confronted the more they are fed by it and the stronger they grow. So what to do.

      We turn to Nietzsche and Baudrillard. We do what they are doing only we do it “worse” , we do it excessively. This is what Ai Wei Wei is doing in China. One man using twitter is holding off the entire Chinese Government. He is an artist, a conceptual artist. They bulldoze and destroy neolithic sites of archaeological treasure. Ai Wei Wei takes neolithic pottery and has hired helpers as in an assembly line, paint over them in garish kitchy designs in primary colors and sells them as art. He ruins them as a statement and says fuck you to the Chinese Govt. They kidnap him and disappear him for 82 days and there is a world wide count down. He is released on probation that won’t allow him to say anything, with a 2.4 mil euro bail. the next day half of that money has been sent in. He goes on and on saying someone has to do it. Someone has to fight for freedom. After an earthquake horror where “tofu” housing crumbled and killed all the children in the school he began gathering names of the dead. volunteers gathered names, hundreds of thousands and he made art out of listing their names shown in London.

      You push to extremes. This “SCANDAL” has been pushed to extremes. No one knows the truth about anything any more. I have deliberately set out to muddy the waters so bad that no one will ever know anything about it. there will be no solution, no closure, no finality to it. Everything is speculation now. all plausible speculation. thousands of speculations out there now. Which is correct? None of them. Each one of them is true from the point of view of the person interpreting. all are true for each person. The Rashomon Effect.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Why can’t I put you on my follow list at disqus? Much easier.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: Now I know what you ment and I agree. No, I have not seen Monsieur Lazar but after reading your review I am planning on seeing it. I have been reading your blog and find it very interesting. It makes you think of things in a totally open minded way. Your articles make me want to seek out information from sources I would never have looked at before. I really enjoy reading it. I am sorry you got banned from the fic sight. I’ll just say it was their loss. I don’t blame them for trying to write another 50 shades but it has been done already. The first one E.L. James did was a fan fiction story called Master of His Universe. Her ideas came from her Betas and the readers of the story. I read the stories but didn’t contribute to the chapters like some did. James took the story down when she found someone to publish it and she renamed the series Fifty Shades of Grey. I know some of the fan fiction readers were upset that she didn’t give them credit for their ideas. I don’t blame them for that since they did help her write each chapter. I think the boat for Fifty Shades has already sailed so they need to come up with something totally different. I hope you don’t get banned from other sites because I enjoy reading your comments. Just read some at GC. It is nice to see someone is intelligent and has a vocabulary of more than five words. Your comments are very well thought out. I am so tired of reading the ones that say for example: Kristen is a slut, whore, cheater. How old are some of those people on GC. The posters at GF are some of the most vile posters I have seen. Thanks for the information.

    • nena

      GC is so vile!!! I said before they would kill their young!! I cant believe that EL James didnt get sued by someone, usless she changed wording or something from other posters, the books are trash, and that is a week and a half I’ll never get back–trash.

    • Chancellor

      @nena: Some of the Betas did go after her but EL James’ publisher said it was not the same story as the one on the fanfiction site. Looked the same to me except she did add more to the book but everything else was the same. On the Twilight Fanfiction sight readers were asking people to boycott the books. I read all three books and had a hard time trying to get through them. They read like something an amateur author would write and the grammar and spelling was awful for a book that was suppose to be edited by a book company. I would have rather stuck with the fanfiction version. It was free and you didn’t mind the mistakes as much since the story cost nothing. I go over to GC to check out info. about Rob and Kristen since Rob’s manager Nick is a good friend of Abrahms the guy who runs GC. I think Nick controls what is in the articles and when it will be released. The posters act like young teenage girls with an obsession and idol complex for Rob. They are so mean and nasty towards Kristen but I have to say one thing though they made me a bigger fan for Kristen when I was for Rob. Their hatred for her is driving some of his older fans away and to Kristen since he didn’t tell his fans to back off. Have you heard anything else about the prank Jimmy is doing?

    • nena

      no no news about the prank!!! 50 shades was so dumb, my poor daughter last year at 16 bought it for her nook just from the title really, no warnings posted. She saw many months later that I had it on mine and she told me she started it but only read a very little bit and stopped. thank God, she said it was gross, I said well lets talk about it, I told her that was not how the real world was for a great majority of people. We talked awhile about it. I was pretty mad at Barnes and Noble!!!! It was so weird, I cant imagine women who would want to be treated like that I dont care how rich or good looking, I would not be a submissive!!! I think all those women high in companies think it would be so good to allow a guy to take control in the bedroom. oh well

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Thank you. I write for people like you to do what you are doing with what I write. Read things and go to sources you might not otherwise have known about. I also read MOTU altho I never reviewed it. Personally I love A Garment of Brightness which is often pure poetry (an E/B vampire one) and Savage’s Hide and Drink. I watch 50 Shades at Hy-Vee and it does disappear off the shelves! There is now a zine called 50 Shades with the same cover on the first issue for “that lifestyle” of 50 Shades it says. Does Hy-Vee know they are selling porn?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Did this go through?

    • nena

      yes why

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Have to run now.

    • Chancellor

      abbeysbooks: I was just wondering what you ment about his mother and family? Do you mean they baby him?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No, that’s not what I mean. I don’t want to go there in public but since I have already said one thing I will say it again.

      He knew as a young teen that you get nowhere in the UK without a post accent and a degree from a good private boarding school to get you in Oxford or Cambridge. The tuition is not cheap. His mother, who places people for ads that photographers photograph, places him to be available for ads. This is knowing that boy love is very well known in Europe for centuries, since the Greeks. And she has to know that her beautiful son is going to get hit on by these photographers. It is a given. Now I don’t know how strict UK laws are about minors. Nothing at all. But litigation in the US would stop most of them as it is virulent. I have a good imagination. rob has said he had a bad career, he aged and wasn’t androgonous anymore. OK….. But he earned his tuition money, went to boarding school, and can you just imagine what he went through there with those aristocratic boys? A horror for sure. He was kicked out after 2 years I think, and at 16 his father took him to the local theatre in Barnes.

      All this is sad. Very sad. No one has said anything about any of this that I know of. I am even sorry I have already gone this far but this is a repeat. Hopefully you will read it and it will go into the information swirl.

    • nena

      yeah alot of garbage that messes with your head, he never felt as good as his peers sounds like. It takes alot to get over that and its still going on with the directors now, SOMEONE HELP HIM TO SEE WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING AND THAT HE NEEDS KS!!!!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      We are doing the best we can. His advisers are not with us. They want the fast food money. And you have no idea of class snobbery in the UK. His parents did not come from culture. Just working middle class.

    • nena

      He has a a UK manager doesnt he? twitter from Robstendesdenuestros (on of the people who ad the video) “RT@DahviShira:correction:Kstew didnt actually sdmit to us, but rayher, admitted to a source who admitted to us. there” this is the writer/reporter @people talking about the origin of the apology and then the writer deleted it. So of course the apologies might not be true. Did you get my email of the pictures at the site?

    • Guest

      I searched for the quote and found several references to it, and I retweeted them because apparently it’s been deleted from twitter. Huh. Don’t know what that means.

      http://i-heart-robsten.tumblr.com/post/27944949015/rt-dahvishira-correction-kstew-didnt-actually-admit

      http://twitter.com/Alice_InTwiLand/statuses/227921102964396032

      http://twitter.com/kristen_raybans

      http://twitter.com/KstewAngel/statuses/227921075600756736

    • nena

      tired of being lied to . I swear to you know who that this better be the prank that Jimmy K is talking about,

    • Guest

      I doubt it.

    • nena

      yeah prob right, wishful thinking

    • D. Martin

      gigi – what are they referring to here?

    • Guest

      Apparently no one knows where the alleged apologies actually came from.

      At first a lot of people thought the photos were fake, but then when the apologies happened so many of us were so shocked that we stopped looking at the photos closely.

      Now that we’ve gotten over the initial shock, we can see again that the photos are very questionable, and wonder where those apologies came from.
      I believe nena is reporting that the writer retracted the report of the apologies, and then deleted the retraction right away. I was able to find the above tweets about the retraction.
      I never saw the retraction so it goes into the “more mysterious stuff” section.
      You can check with nena to make sure I understood her correctly.

      I wish I knew more about doing searches on the internet. I wonder how some sites seem so able to hide their archives.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Am on the go today. I will send you invitation for my blog so we can post this story together. Pics are great. Who is she? I know your pestering got her to do it. Nick and Stephanie are always with him, controlling him. Like the president. They are the people he spends most of his time with. Not personal choices but biz choices. He’s in trouble with these amateurs.

    • nena

      I just emailed her a few times till she responded, no she went out on her own

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      How did you find her? On platinum? Good work my cyber detective.

    • nena

      Well really Jenni posted the link and I just bugged her, it was hard to because she didnt have anywhere to post replys, but she did have an email to order her book but I just asked my questions instead so I was surprised she did!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Don’t know why the link went dead. Too controversial? You have a way of getting just what you want by the way you ask questions. I haven’t figured it out yet, but I am also susceptible. We will have to put it all together with both videos.

    • nena

      yup

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      They are killer pics.

    • Guest

      I don’t know that it is sad for him though.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Maybe not. He laughs at put downs though as if they don’t matter.

    • Guest

      I don’t think so.

    • Guest

      He seems very respectful to me.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: I read that he had modeled but I didn’t know exactly when. I did see in a picture gallery on Robobssed (First time and last time I went there to find out about Remember Me movie) he looked to be about 14 or 15 and he was wearing red brief underwear. The pose was kind of provocative I thought for a kid to be doing. So now I understand what was going on. How could a mother do that to their child?
      You would think if he went through that he could understand what happened to Kristen and maybe he does.
      Thanks for the info.

    • nena

      hopefully she stayed with him on shoots I would have or an agent or someone so I would know nothing happened

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I would hope he does. He was certainly beautiful and he certainly got hit on.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If the 2 professional team talked to each other. Maybe they are in a competitive stance with each other. Kristen’s agency is more professional. More off putting.

    • powerpoes

      people sees to think at GC that the girl could be jessica Devlin ( an old girlfriend he has been seeing all these years .) . Do you belief the stories on BLIND GOSSIP ? .There is a story “HIS PRIVATE GIRLFRIEND . People seems to think it is about RP and KS whit another
      woman. . They are saying he has been with this girlfriend the last weeks after the scandel broke . What do you think ?

    • nena

      i read that also 1. If that’s true then he a bigger jerk for condemning her, 2. I think maybe they are trying to get dirt one him or make it up

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Probably.

    • powerpoes

      If this is true then KS is better of without him . I do”nt think RP is a saint .

    • ss

      I don’t RP is no saint at all., either. I like RP, but people cloud their eyes with his persona/Edward persona too mucj. I’m sure he is nice, but is he as nice as everyone yhinks? Nah, don’t tjink,so. I mean he is a man, come on!lol I don’t think tjose are back together at all. I think they sre just meeting so they can handle themselves around eachother when BD2 ppromos come up. I’m not reading any blind items anymore because you just can’t put nothing past anyone, ESPCIALLY in HW.Things are so calculated and thought out. It the land of smoke and mirrors. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if RP or even KS had “blind items” about them. I think RP just couldnt get passed the cheating. I think KS tried, but on his part he can’t do it or won’t. I think he just speaking to her about (only reason why) because of BD2 promos. Coming up.Actually, I think they may be better without eachother. Maybe they can get away from eachothers crazy fans, edpecially KS. At the end of the day, who really knows what the hell is going on with them.? No one will ever know what really or what really didn’t happen. Only RP anssd KS really know how their relationship was, nobody else. I never thought they had this “amazing” love story or thought it was as sweet as people thought of it. First of all they are both humans and they are actors. They are HW Alisters, with fat bank accounts, people are constantly throwing themselves at them. Especially RP.Especially, especially him. Well i hope , KS comes out of this cheating scandal and relationship with RRP great. I wish her the best. RP was the more “likeable one” , the more popular one. KS was popular, but not as likeable. She seemed as more of the outsider. He was/is the popular one regardless of how goofy and charming he is. I root for the underdog per say, and I think that has/iss KS. Im just tired of the Robsten pr crap, or are they or aren’t they or RP is only doing what he has to do just to be profesdional BS, and The zkS is chasing after RP crap. I just tired od everything RP and KS. Lol Too much dma period.lol

    • ss

      Correction: “too much drama period.” Again… Dorry for so many errors, Im using my phone and I hate touchscreen keyboards.

    • powerpoes

      Well said. I allways tought they loved and respected each other .
      KS has been abused in a very bad way the last two months .
      I just hope that this all will be over soon( after BD2) . I don’t think RP is good for her .She will have more peace without him. She is young and talented. I hope that now because of the scandel she can see who her friends are and who really love her. y english not so good sorry !!

    • Cindy

      @powerpoes: Ready to get sick? Clicked on Jessica Devlin’s bio and they have her dating Robert Pattinson with a picture of him at the Cosmo premiere. I heard on another site that he bought his girlfriend an apartment in New York City and that is where he was when people thought he was at Reese Witherspoons. Guess where Jessica Devlin lives? New York city. Yep, she even has a website you can talk to her at for she is trying to get into the acting business and welcomes challenges on her site. She is going to the New York Actor/ Film Academy and is listed as an aspiring actor. She sounds really full of herself on her Talent website. If it is true and he was dating her the entire time hdeserves to go to h*** for letting her go through what his fans did to her and milking the poor Rob routine for his career. If it is true I hope they tarnish him for doing this to Kristen when he had the opportunity to be kind.

    • powerpoes

      Yes I saw her bio : With Robert pattinson boyfriend . When you click on RP picture he is dating : Nikki Reed, Asley green, Jessica Devlin , Kristen stewart. I mean a lot of women . So I’m confuesed .

    • nena

      where do you look for them?

    • powerpoes

      The same place you ffound Jessica D Who is dating who

    • nena

      I never found that,

    • powerpoes
    • powerpoes

      Click on RP

    • nena

      yeah I dont think thats anything, who knows, just more crap to get in the way, really starting to loose interest, you know? Its like everyone is trying to get dirt on the other, either for PR or RP really cant be mature and talk.

    • Cindy

      @powerpoes and nena: Get ready to be sick. Just clicked on Jessica Devlin’s Bio. Under currently dating there is a picture of Robert Pattinson at the New York Cosmo premiere. I also heard on another site that he bought his girlfriend an apartment months ago in New York City. I thought it was Kristen but guess who lives in New York City? Yep, Jessica Devlin. They said he was there the entire time everyone thought he was at Reese Witherspoons. Jessica Devlin also has a Talent website where she talks to people about acting for she is enrolled in The New York Film/Actors Academy where she wants to be an aspiring actress one day. She tells people on her site all about herself and says she is up for a challenge. She sounds full of herself. So, if it is true he was dating her all this time and let Kristen hang out in the wind for his fans to torch and crucify he can go to H**L for all I care. I guess if this is true he got his start riding on the back of Kristen and Jessica will get her start riding on his back. All I can say is what a world of OPPORTUNIST they have in HW.You know he sure isn’t showing the character a Catholic is brought up to respect and honor. I am Catholic and we were brought up to honor God and his rules for us to follow in life to reach heaven. What kind of Catholic is he? Not a very good one in my book if he is doing what I have heard

    • nena

      but that site isnt something she put up its not like facebook where you put in who your dating. That site is just what someone put up and if you click on RP 7 girls come up……. so I dont think its proof of anything, im not saying its not true but….

    • Gosia

      But we don’t know if it’s true. Don’t judge him so quickly, be good Catholics. I don’t believe in “private girl” because I can’t find reason to do so..

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Me either.

    • Pat

      @nena: I clicked on Jessica Devlin’s bio. Under who she is currently dating a picture of Robert Pattinson at the New York Cosmo premiere popped up. So I guess he has been dating her. She looks like Amy Winehouser to me. If this is true then Kristen’s PR people better start working fast. He isn’t worth K’s time. I wonder if J is the one he bought the apartment in New York for if that is true too?

    • Gosia

      I don’t believe. He is not this kind of person. I even feel that he physically can’t. Well, I’m this kind of person. I can expose only to one if ever, so I understand him. Well but I’m a woman so I’ve thought it’s a reason but I can be wrong. If I’m right he will never “cheat on her” because he’ll feel as “cheating on himself” much more.

    • Gosia

      I think you are very right of all you say. In 2009 at promoting tour she gave him ultimatum. It was in Germany. She said they could be together only on her conditions – not to get married. It seemed to be very hard for him. I think he agreed (after long time; they’d probably straggled, he was broken down but she won) because it was better to be with her in this way than not to have her at all. He hasn’t stop to think about it. In an interview after BD1 he said he feels as married man. He is Catholic, devoted, so if she’s pregnant it’s much more important to him – not to have children born in sin.

    • nena

      that would have been at just the beginning of the relationship, not that Im arguing with you but it seems to talk about that in the beginning

    • Gosia

      He repeated this in interview after BD1 and added I wish it will be so he thinks about it continually.

    • Chancellor

      Sounds just like what Kristen did since he wouldn’t take her calls or see her. Bad thing is I think she really loved him enough to give up all her pride and career for him. Sad he didn’t feel the same. Sounds like he is immature, shallow and vain to me.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      IDK if that was the way it went down. Surely someone could have said,

      If you do this then x is likely to happen.

      If you do that then y is likely to happen.

      When talking to impulsive wrought up people you frame the dialogue as you would with an emotional patient or schizophrenic. When I had a horse riding accident and ended up in emergency the doctor said he wanted to schedule me to operate on Monday. It was a smallish hospital in Coatesville PA, an old coal mining town. I was a city girl from Philly used to going to really good doctors and dentists. right there in emergency I said, “Well I think I need to get a second opinion at Jefferson or the U of Pennsylvania hospital.

      He didn’t even blink. He said I could do that. He saw this particular accident about 3 times every weekend and the surgeons in the city maybe saw 3 a year if that. I guped and bit the bullet staying with him. He was a bone genius. But if he hadn’t framed it exactly the way he did I might not have.

      That is the way Rob needed to be talked to. He has surrounded himself with youngish people who were nobodies before he hit the big time. He has stayed with them when maybe he shouldn’t. They are not experienced with stuff like this.

      Any really good therapist would have known how to speak with him. He is used to saying what he feels like saying. the idea of becoming more emotionally mature is to feel the feeling and then decide whether you want to say it or not. To choose. He doesn’t. Kristen stutters because she is conflicted about questions in interviews. She doesn’t want to sound canned and she doesn’t want to sound like an idiot, which she often does. But she is learning how to speak to an audience who is there waiting to hear what she has to say only she hasn’t planned what she is going to say. It takes a lot of time to feel comfortable in saying what you want to say without being stupid about it.

      Writing is the same.

      And as I said, if they could have figured it out in an emotionally mature way before the pics were out there, none of this would have happened. and if R/K could have handled the papz the way Emma stone and Andrew Garfield just did , they would never have had problems with the papz. And that is her fault. She was just too physically afraid of them. Being small I understand that.

    • nena

      im small to, I hated it so much and I know have come to realize that I associated my shortness with worthiness , I am short so there for not worth much… One thing is she has brothers and he has sisters. Maybe they have talked we really dont know, there are at least 20 different ways all of this could have happened starting on July 17

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I avoided physical ways of solving problems because I am small. It creates a certain deviousness. A watchful way of being while the others bluff and posture. What I just wrote a few minutes ago I just figured out as I was writing it. It has been worth all this time on the comment boards to have arrived at that insight. I am impressed with myself!

    • Gosia

      I don’t know if you’ve noticed but once (just after first Cosmopolis Interview) I’ve found in internet an Australian tabloid. It was said in it that R&K were apart for a very short time. The title was “I would never let her go”. There was written that K said she’s done what she’s done and was ready to leave R.
      It seems nobody noticed that but it can be truth.
      There was said there that they are together (even she in NY waiting for him in hotel) and that it’ cause he handle interviews so good. I think it’s possible.

    • JUST NO

      That was not Kristen in Ny with Rob. That was Jessica who is said to be the secret girl friend that Rob Hides

    • nena

      do we know for sure

    • Gosia

      For me it’s just crap

    • Pat

      I heard this too on GC and Pop Sugar.

    • nena

      why was she done? what happened

    • Gosia

      Well my english I should say: what has happened just has happened
      (it’s about “affair”)
      How do you feel reading my posts? Is it very difficult?

    • nena

      I dont understand, if she had an affair not a tryst was she ready to leave R (RP you mean) because he wouldnt talk to her? but that they got back together and that is why he did so well in Cosmopolis because he wasnt upwet any more?

    • Gosia

      In this Australian tabloid was written that they’ve met very quickly after tryst (OK – I’ve called it “affair” because of the noise) and they’ve been taking. It was in August. It was written there that Kristen said “what has happened it has happened I’m ready to go away” but Robert hadn’t let her go. It means there was no talk about taking her back, it was Kristen who was ready to leave him.
      By the way I’ve noticed that some information appears for a short time (but never in US) then disappear. In US this same information leaks for a week or longer disturbed by some crap.
      It was said (in this Australian tabloid) that Robert handled with his Cosmopolis interviews so well because they were together. If it’s true they are together since August (but hiding). That means all those questions “they are…, they aren’t…” it’s just a PR game with tabloids to show that they know nothing, to prepare fans that they are back together, and to save Rob’s image as much as possible.

    • nena

      so do you believe this? who did they say the source was? Do you think she wanted to leave because she wanted Rupert? (ick) Is that why she wanted to leave? Do you think that as far as Rob thought they never broke up, you said Rob hadnt let her go? I wish this were true!!!! whaat is going on at GC, I need you to tell me because I cant stand to go there.

    • powerpoes

      I saw that somewhere allso . Tt was said that they stayed at the same Hotel they allways stay . And that KS remain in the hotelroom ..

    • nena

      wow how do you guys find out about this stuff?? So is he seeing this Devlin chick on the side or was KS there with him?

    • powerpoes

      They say that KS was with him in NY and that’s the reason he was so calm . Because she was watching in the hotelroom . After one day the starting saying other stuff .Like he wasn’t talking to her. And today a heard about this JD from people at GC .

    • nena

      I do think he was very calm and did a good job for someone who was supposed to be hurting so much, you know? I mean if he really wasnt ok then he would have a really hard time I would think, I would. Te stories are changing so rapidly these last few days I wonder if the PR people are putting these out or if the media is just making stuff up because maybe because of the video people are questioning now so they need to make up crap to keep the fan girls guessing? Well I guess they are keeping us guessing also

    • powerpoes

      Is what I was thinking. Because of all the stories everybody has forgotten about the video.

    • nena

      so we need to keep tweeting about it and talk about it on other sites especially GC every day!!

    • powerpoes

      They are very brutal and nasty there .

    • Pat

      @nena: I have already posted four times there under a different name since the haters will follow you to other sites. I posted the link to both videos in the comment area under the article about Rob and Kristen meeting to work on their relationship. The haters there are vile with their comments about Kristen. If you go there don’t post with the same name. They followed me to 3 other sites spewing hatred.

    • nena

      very sad, its funny how certain blogs attract vile people and others attract civilized people, wow I’m sure I’ll hear about this !!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Probably. It is working.

    • nena
    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      perfect pic we will use it.

    • nena

      someone tweeted that, isnt it funny!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      tweeted what?

    • nena

      the cow picture was tweeted

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You are much batter with twitter than I. I need lessons! It is a perfect pic. Tell them to do one of the cow with rob’s head and all the directors with their shitty movies using him as a prop.

    • nena

      yeah, I dont know if it was from them or they retweeted it

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I love that part in Ai Wei Wei when he tweets something important, keeps looking at the screen, then says they’re retweeting it now.

    • nena

      is this the person you said you loved on twitter

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes.

    • nena

      I just saw a commercial for Les Miz I can not wait for it to come out!!!!!

    • Gosia

      I don’t know if believe it, but it seems very probable. I believe that Kristen told Rob what’s happened to her and has faced the situation (just go away not to Rupert he was the aggressor) more than her begging him to take her back.

    • nena

      so you are saying she told it all to rob, who was she saying go away to? Rupert? She was telling Rob that she told Rupert to go away?

    • Gosia

      She just was ashamed, she want to begin life on her own I suppose. I think, I hope she told Rob everything. They are not only lovers but friends as well so I suppose when she’s begun to talk, she’s told him everything.

    • nena

      thats sad, hopefully RP thought to himself “no Im not going to let her go” “

    • Pat

      Well that really makes me think less of Mr. Pattinson. I think enough has been out there to prove those pictures were fabricated and if this is the attituded he has she is better off with out him. At least if this is true she is trying to save his 7.5% of the box office revenue he has in his contract to receive with his 12.5 million salary. You said it right nena how imature can this guy be. It was just a kiss and a stolen one from what I saw if the pictures in the car were not doctored too. This makes me think he never really loved her and the expression of his feelings all these years was just away to keep the Bella/Edward romance going in the minds of the fans and string Kristen along for the ride. He is a better actor fooling the girl than he is on screen. I am really getting tired of the broken heart he is so brave routine. When does his next movie come out after BD2? My friends and I plan on boycotting everyone of them. Can I say Opportunist. Maybe we need to nickname him Robortunist instead of Robsten. Makes me wonder if Liberty got the shirt in the video from Rob. It is the same one (without sleeves)he wore on the cover of Blackbook. I heard his was vintage. I hope he was not in it with them for those three are the only ones who seem to have come out on top. Sorry for the miss spelled words but I am so mad right now. I hope he meets a girl who has a rule you can not go out with female friends. Because that would be like cheating. If that is the case with all the female friend parties and bar hopping he is caught out at it want last long.

  • northGAgirl

    So I’ve just read some posts from the last day…do y’all not think this is a stunt of some kind anymore? Rob is in on it? Or trying to push KS away? I’m so confused.

    • Gosia

      Well it fits to one of my theory. (I will try to say it in short)
      It’s seems that it was stunt but without K&R. Rupert new about it (watching straight at camera on some pics).
      He seduced her. There were two sessions of pics. The first one by the fence, the second one in the car.
      Rupert tricked Kris calling her and setting up business meeting. He was waiting at the fence. He harassed her there. She felt uncomfortable, tried to get rid of him in polite way (as she know him, worked with him and respected him as director).
      He received call (was he told that there aren’t enough discrediting pics?). He has asked her to pic him up. When they were in the car he attacked her once more (they made more pics). Kristen reacted as victim of violence (it happens that such victim even helps aggressor)
      [if you want I can post reply I received once - it's description of such behavior].
      Kristen remorsed, felt guilty but she didn’t tell anything to Rob because she was in shock (couldn’t explain to herself her body reaction).
      Pics were published (…).
      I think Rob took her from her italian friend home, when she was so broken down and since then (beginning of August) they are together (it’s even probable that she’d received specialist help).
      [here read my post from today (answer to nena) - what for to repeat this all once again]

    • nena

      so are you saying he called her twice,? post reply. I know I would, didnt get it but I didnt have pics all over the world, what was RS reason for it?

    • Gosia

      No, this was one meeting but at first by the fence. Then Rupert received call and probably asked Kris to pick him up to the place where the second session of pics was made (those in the car). There were two sessions of pics but one day.

    • nena

      ok you know what I still think is strange, many articles say she picked him up AT office, kissed there but then drove around to find a place and then went to fence area, but if you look at her car he could not have gotten out of the car parked like that unless he got out at fence when she went to turn car around to park the direction she did. BUT then everyone says she met him at fence first. So what you are saying is he called her, she met him at fence then she left, some one called him said get more pictures so he called her back and said come to office and there he sort of attacked her with the kissing? Its not really that I have trouble with your english you do well, its probably just me

    • Gosia

      Well maybe i’ve shorted it too much.
      I have never read about pics order I was little “late” with that mess. I learnt about it about August 1st (or even late).
      I saw photos they were messed up so I’ve tried to group them to put in any order. I found out there are 2 sessions of pics. The first one must be at the fence because he is waiting for her. He couldn’t get out of the car there because he couldn’t open the car door. So this is 2nd pic. The 1st pic is when he head down the hill to wait for her. We have 2 pics less in this puzzle (there is one more pic, order I know – when she’s driving away – it must be the last one). That’s all I know.
      I don’t know the proper order of pics and how many of them lack. I can’t tell anything about what’s happened there. The pics obviously were chosen to fit the paps story. That means lacking pics don’t fit it.
      I’ve heard pap telling the story but it was incoherent and ridiculous. I’ve just have been laughing loudly hearing it.
      What happened by the fence i don’t know (there’s no pics shut one by one to show movement – very strange). He harassed her lightly but she hasn’t reacted as he wanted (that wasn’t intense).
      He has been talking by phone so he’s called or somebody’s called him. Only he knows what he was talking about and whom with. It could be paps telling that are ready waiting for him in 2nd place
      Those pics by the fence don’t discredit her rather (she looked uncomfortable) so more hardcore pics are needed.
      How could he get to the car? Just has asked her to pick him up to the place where paps were waiting.
      Then she’s showed him her muscle, he’s been touching them (good position to attack her once more) she has no place to move away, to escape. Her body reacted not exactly in the way she wanted but this is typical reaction for victim violence, what she didn’t know.

      Post I’ve received from blogger describing such situation:

      This is for all the people that have never experience an unwanted sexual advance from someone that has authority over you.
      Someone that can take away your job, can fail you in a class, or slander you publically, if he doesn’t get what he wants. It is a man’s world. Women are not equals. It is a sad fact. Have you ever witnessed a woman/young girl sexually approached by a man that she didn’t want approaching her in a sexual way?
      She blushes as her blood flows into her face, turning her cheeks warm as they turn glowing red. She begins to sweat under her arms with the tingle of her nerves as hot flashes blaze behind her neck and raise goose bumps down her spine that make her shiver. Her palms become slippery with sweat and she clutches her arms around her chest, if she can, as she tries to wipe them dry on her clothes so he doesn’t notice if she tilts into him, unwillingly, from the rush of hormones racing through her body. She shakes and trembles, uncontrollably, deep in her core, as nausea threatens to overwhelm her, but she is able to swallow with a gulp to suppress it.
      She guardedly turns her face away, embarrassed of her body’s reaction to him. She’s hoping he doesn’t notice but knows he is watching her blush with embarrassment, feeling her shiver, shake and tremble, smelling her sweet hormone drenched sweat excrete from her every pore, with the feel of her heat radiating all around her. She wobbles, feeling weak in the knees so she grabs hold of anything she can, not to fall. Her mind starts racing with panic, feeling trapped and helpless. She can’t think straight, in fact, her mind goes completely blank, so she giggles, out of nothing but pure nervousness, because the adrenaline is rushing through her body, so fast, from her heart racing out of control, as her breathing becomes short, quick breaths from holding it in.
      Dizziness and shortness of breath is now causing her mouth to feel parched, so she closes her eyes as she licks her lips to try to moisten them. He sees her weakening as she leans against him so she doesn’t fall. He caresses her with his hands as he holds her in his strong secure, supportive arms. He makes her feel safe in his arms as he seduces her, tells her to relax, and she has nothing to fear. She tries to resist but he becomes more seductive because he knows he’s making her uncomfortable and nervous.
      It makes him feel powerful, so he tells her how beautiful she is when she blushes and pressures her more, making her weaker, more embarrassed from the heat radiating hotter off her skin. Her body begins to react and she feels herself tingling where she shouldn’t which makes her even weaker because she can’t control her body’s reaction to his seductions. He embraces her a little closer, knowing he’s only seconds away from getting what he wants, so he whispers in her ear, so low that she can’t understand what he’s saying. She makes the mistake of looking up at him and he smiles, knowing he is winning. She’s frightened out of her mind! Especially, when the man towers over her and weighs at least 1/2 more her weight, with his strong arms grasping her, telling her that she has no chance in hell refusing his advances. She gets so nervous, so heated, that the only release is to kiss him back, and give him what he wants. She knows that is the quickest and only way to get away from him.
      Kristen didn’t do that by the rail. I’m very proud of her. And I’m, pretty, sure I know what happened in the car. Don’t make light or dismiss what you don’t know or have never experienced. It is not something I would wish any woman to have to experience. It is degrading, you feel worthless, dirty, ashamed, self-loathing and guilty.

    • Chancellor

      I don’t think it is a PR stunt anymore. I think he is back to his old ways just this time he is trying to party with older partiers. He needs to worry who he is parting with. Ditia Von Tess has a verrrrrrrrry bad reputation not just in HW but everywhere. I am surprise Nick would let him take pictures with Tess. Is he trying to make it into the hard core metalic rock scene or strange women porno movies now? I read she is big in both and was married to Marilyn Manson .I feel sorry for Kristen and think she needs to dress up and go out with A list actors and producers. She needs to be seen too. I can’t believe he was worried about being seen with Kristen but is photoed with Tess and Portman who stole her friend’s boyfriend and slept with him while he was dating his girlfriend. I heard Portman is giving Rob advice for she helped Jude Law with the Siennia incident. Bet Tom likes it that Rob is being seen supporting her dance dinner. I can’t believe how the haters are now blaming Kristen for Rob not being able to have a date to the events he is going to. What a bunch of lunatics. Come to think of it back when Rob was filming Bel Ami there was an article that came out saying he was parting and sleeping with a burlesque dancer the director had hired to make sure they were doing the dancing in the movie correctly. I hope that was not true but I am wondering now about all these rumors after this. Wonder if that is how he knows Tess. She is hired a lot to choreograph authentic burlesque and strip tease moves for dancers and stripers. She is also big with heavy hard core rock musicians. She has appeared on several of their album covers. He is worried about being seen with Kristen??????

    • Chancellor

      Just wanted to add. I wonder if we will see pictures tomorrow of Rob at the Emmy parties. Leaving now so I can watch the Emmys and I am praying the prank is Rob and Kristen didn’t break up. I want hold my breath though.

    • northGAgirl

      My only thing about the Emmy’s is why would 2 people that are relatively big names in the movie industry do something for a TV awards show….I doubt it would be just to help out Kimmel…but maybe I’m wrong, I honestly know nothing about HW or how it all works.

    • Chancellor

      @northGAgirl: It is all for the free PR and have their picture taken with other actors so they can be in the tabloids and on the news shows tomorrow. At several movie premieres you all ways see TV stars walking the red carpet. I always wondered why a TV actor would walk the red carpet for a movie premiere they were not in. Then I saw the Glee cast walk the red carpet for Eclipse and the next day all you saw on the covers of tabloids were pictures of the Glee cast at the Twilight premiere. So, I guess managers and publicist will make actors go to and do anything for a mention in a mag. or on a news show. Sad, really sad. I guess if their managers and publicist thought an actor could get free publicity at a train wreck they would be lining up at train stations everywhere. I noticed all the movie stars that needed a push with their careers desended on New Orleans and Mississippi after Katrinia Of all the actors who showed up to get their face on a news report or be photoed at a charity event the only actor and actress who did anything to really help was Brad and Angie. The others just showed up and left when it came time to donate the big bucks, help rebuild houses, or help the red cross and salvation army care for those hurt and homeless. Same thing happen in Alabama after the tornadoes that hit and wiped out towns. I have family in Tuscaloosa. They said actors showed up, got their 15 min. on camera and their name out there like they really cared and were there to help but once the work started they left town quickly. I think these are the people Kristen was talking about in her interview. I just found out that Kristen sat on the Red Cross Board for the Haiti Relief project and gave 2 million. Didn’t see her on TV for this or telling the world look what I have done. Did Rob give anything? So it goes to show no matter what kind of actor they are (Tv or movie) some only want the PR and will do anything for it.

    • nena

      I wondered why N. Kiddman and her hubby were on the red carpet at the Emmys, why???

    • northGAgirl

      I think it’s because Keith Urban is a new American Idol judge

    • Chancellor

      @nena: Sorry I am trying to catch up after computer blew up. Northgirl is right they were there because he was asked to step in for Steven Tyler who left to tour with his band Aero Smith (I think it is called).

    • nena

      character is what you do when no one is looking!

    • pcardax

      Great! I agree!

    • nena

      Thanks, cant take credit tho, my kids go to a Catholic school and they had pillars to live by or something, and this was one of them, I love it and it is so true, do good deeds but no one but you and God need to know, being humble.

    • pcardax

      Nena, I’m Italian and excuse my poor English …. I follow you helping me with Google translator, that I am now using to translate my thoughts. I’ve been following the discussion on this blog on Kristen’s “cheating” for weeks. I want to thank you all for your discussion on this story, especially you, Nena, and Gosia, Gigi5, Robin Van Dam, Illicat, Jenny Meyer and Abbeysbook (has a beautiful blog and it is my personal hero!) … if I had not found you, I would be crazy.
      In Italy, the story of Kristen obviously is not followed as in the U.S. I started to follow when I read the article by Jodie Foster (who I respect and admire) in favor of a young actress. I did not know who they were Stewart and Pattinson (I knew his face as actors of Twilight, but I had not connected the names). I read the books, but I have never been interested in film (I saw the first pieces on You tube and the second on TV because it’s free, and stop). The intervention of the Foster hit me and pushed me to look for information on the Internet and google news. And I discovered a world that did not know, an actress named Kristen Stewart, Robsten, the world of cinema (I’m not a huge fan of cinema), the tabloids, the cruel gossip of Showbizz. I tried to understand what had happened. From the beginning the story seemed strange. I followed all the developments, and I was shocked by six weeks of bullying the media, vulgar and violent, of which Stewart was the victim.
      I am very worried about Kristen. In my opinion she is the victim of a great injustice. I hope you can get out of this disgusting story and resume his career. She is an artist!

    • nena

      My grandfather was from Sicily! Yes I to am shocked by what I have read and heard since July 24th. I am from Nebraska which is in the middle of the US. I knew that people could be cruel but I had no Idea the extent that people will go go to hurt others. I have never done anything like this before, I went to another site Gossip Cop and it is horrible, the people are mean! I really had no idea the hollywood was so cut throat, and all the lies, cheating, hurting each other that went on. Our society is so sad.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      So you are learning to do or say something just because it is the right thing to do. Zizek says on this that you do it so the person will experience living in a world where kindness and compassion exist.

    • nena

      yes

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Me too. Can be very risky sometimes. Kristen’s apology was the only way at that time she could reach rob IMO. She told the truth. That she loved him and that it was a momentary indiscretion, planned by Sanders from the getco. Nick Frenkel was right there with Rob immediately. How come he was so available so fast? Hmmmm. Ummmmm. Forewarning? Complicity?

      Nick Frenkel’s problem right now is that he is too entwined with too many people that have something to gain from this. Who got Sanders the director’s job for SWATH? It is unheard of for a first time director to get a budget of $170,000,000. It just doesn’t happen, so how did it happen. And he chose Kristen on the advice of his wife Liberty who could spot Kristen’s style a mile away. And she knows what attracts her husband, what type he likes, and it is a younger replica of herself. She remembers a time when she was irresistible to him. Now how can she use that knowledge?

      Did Summit invest in Universal’s SWATH. Universal was close to the rocks just before it and Summit knows the vulnerability of that position having been there themselves. So I wonder how come Sanders got that movie with Kristen so conveniently wrapped up in it? Jes askin’.

    • pcardax

      I feel like crying … e is sad that all this started because she chose him for the part of Edward …

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s pretty awful. And it’s happened to many before him. Ben Affleck was almost in it with JLo. I cringed when he got involved with her. Now he has a good life with Garner, and is becoming a solid director. If NIck Frenkel can get rob into “the set” then he will have him. It’s that quote from Creston Davis: The forgiven cheating wife will not be able to stand her husband’s forgvingness and will leave. The husband will desire someone he does not desire. Think Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      But if we can turn the tide and smear the ones who did this, Kristen will be exonerated. By her public apology she humiliated herself “worse” than she humiliated his image. She is saying, “I love you more than I care for my career, my image, myself. That’s how much I love you. Now he has to say to himself, “Is my humiliated image in the eyes of people who don’t matter to me worth losing her for?” The ball is in his court. He had better not wait too long and he may have already. She is over the worst of it, and since she wants a different life and lifestyle she will recover with someone who is not so high maintenance. I am presently discovering how high maintenance Rob is. It is exhausting.

      Rob will never recover. Maybe he will become a better musician.

    • pcardax

      I thought so. I also had already thought that Kristen apology would be a challenge to Rob.
      Yes, I follow you, but I am so far away, I live in Italy and my English is poor. Help me with Google transaltor. I think I’m the only Italian so impressed by this story! I feel that the mentality of my country is different, I am shocked for weeks (about six) of bullying the media against Kristen. We are so far away, yet so close … I wish I could do something too. Now I have to go to sleep, here is already past midnight. If I can, I try to send you an e-mail tomorrow.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well you are close to Bosnia yes? One of us there! Stay close. We can do this.

    • pcardax

      I’d like to try!
      And speaking of Higt society …. (I got the alert from a Facebook Italian group. Poor, they hope for Robsten!)
      http://it.eonline.com/news/348369/robert-pattinson-parties-at-emmys-bash

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      What you say about the apology is deeply the truth and I have never seen it put that way. I am surprised at myself for not getting this previously.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Your statement falls into what Zizek calls the *unknown knowns*. This is where Rand is on her radical capitalism. She has “over-indentified” with it as Zizek calls it, she has advocated being more capitalist than the capitalists and that is Nietzsche. Excess. But she forgot that Nietzsche says that that is the way to destroy something. This is what DeLillo gets in his Cosmopolis that the Cronenberg never even saw.

    • nena

      Robin I think thinks that Rob got the call in London with K but the time line doesnt fit for him to be there then, This is starting to get me sad. Did you get my email with the attachment?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes I got those messages. I don’t know what to think. Here’s my latest speculation. Universal was at bankruptcy door when they did SWATH. Sanders, a first time director, was put in charge of a 170 million production budget. Yes this is unheard of as I have been saying and saying and then saying again. Why, Chuck why?

      Then he brings it in with 200 million over production costs, but I don’t know what the promotion costs were, but they were high. Kristen did not do it for cheap the way Rob did for Cronenberg. In praising Cronenberg at the Golden globes last year he stuck his finger up at Hollywood. They aren’t going to forget that. Now he’s doing a film for a German who lives in LA, a French director, and an Australian director while he is hot. Hollywood is not going to forget this insult either. I am quite sure he doesn’t even know he is insulting the biggies. Obviously no one tells him these things.
      Mayber, what if, no one expected Sanders to do SWATH well? What if they wanted it to fail? I don’t mean Universal but Summit. Now why would Summit want SWATH to fail? That would really put Universal in the soup. But what if Summit wants to pick up Universal on the cheap and now Sanders has increased their worth, plans a second one and it looks as if Universal might be able to pull what Summit pulled with Twilight. Maybe not as extravagant but not shabby.

      Would summit want this? Now if they want Universal it will cost them a whole pretty penny more. So, what to do? If Kristen Stewart is caught in a scandal, the fandom will go crazy, Universal will be on very shaky ground for any sequel. So how to arrange this. Sanders won’t be able to do this movie SWATH 2 to make a success, so what to do with Sanders. Here’s where Nick Frenkel and Abrams of gossip Cop come in in a secret conference with Summit and figure out a strategy.Sanders will have to be included. And his reward will be to direct for Summit, as Hunger Games is going to do great. It’s a nifty speculation I think. It is very credible.

    • nena

      who is directing Catching fire? I dont know its all so crazy. isnt Hunger games lionsgate? That italian magazine said that Lib has been protographed like 80 times since the scandal. unless its all for PR it doesnt look good for RP and LS but I dont know how good it looks for KS and RP either, but once again KS is the one hurting, I dont know about RP but him out partying with a guy pal (ie could be Nick?) aft the emmys and the LA thing could be all Nick oh I have to go to sleep

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Francis Lawrence of Water For Elephants is doing Catching Fire.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: Have you heard if the casting calls have been closed for this movie? I know they are filming in Atlanta Ga. Do they have all the cast picked yet and could Rob be one called for this movie since he worked with Lawrence in WFE and Lionsgate owns Summit now?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I have heard nothing. robsessed would know.

    • Chancellor

      @nena and abbeysbooks: Lionsgate bought out Summit last year. They now own Summit but are letting Summit keep their name when they produce movies. I had heard that Summit offered Sanders the job to direct the Mockingjay movie of the Hunger Games. It is the third in the series. Do you think they would put Rob in the Mockingjay movie with Sanders as the director? Does Lionsgate want Universal?

    • northGAgirl

      I have to agree in thinking this is al ‘on par’…like maybe she totally sucked face with Rupert Sanders, maybe she flamed out of her relationship or something was not keeping her happy…I don’t know. Honestly, I don’t care anymore either…I don’t even have the desire to see BD2 now…like this entire ‘scandal’ has made me want to just see her in OTR and say forget BD2. And regarding Dita…I always thought she was basically a high end stripper…so I agree with the photos and such…and I really can’t stand Natalie Portman. Again, I’m surprised he went to this event although the cause is a good one and he’s clearly wanting to be seen at more ‘mature’ events…but if that’s the case you would think his people could make him look a bit more put together when he headed off for the event. That’s my two cents…I’m just tired of the entire thing and ready for everyone involved to go their own ways.

    • nena

      I would think if all the old rumors of RP were true wouldnt someone come forward with proof?? Rumors are just rumors, and they as a couple and alone attract them. KS was seen laughing with James F. and no the tabs have them picking out china patterns.

    • northGAgirl

      You’re right about the rumors…and there are rumors about every actor/actress so I don’t put a lot of weight in those stories…I’m just becoming exhausted with Hollywood as a whole. These people make millions, I’m asked to pay to have them entertain me and most of them end up being jerks….it’s just tiresome.

    • nena

      I know, I was just at walmart and the OK mag says they are back together, and quoted a very close friend this time. Right!!!

  • D. Martin

    Alexis – your last line of this blog is priceless. And shared by many…

  • D. Martin

    Man…think I’m gonna hang out here more. GC is getting me down with all the Kristen haters.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I can’t be around the Kristen haters anymore either, let me know if you have twitter.

    • D. Martin
    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      follow me back D. Martin. I followed you.

    • D. Martin

      Gotcha!

  • ss

    Just came from crazy ol GC board. People are seriously nuts over there. Whether you anyone likes KS or doesn’t. Or whether people don’t want RP to get back w/ KS, or those that want them to get back together. Whether or not people think this scandal was a PR stunt for whatever reason, or just think KS got caught cheating etc. people over there fight/argue like cats and dogs about everything over there. ! Lol. There are some “actual” adult posters there, believe it or not. Lol Anyhoo…just read from there that RP was photographed and posed for pictures w/ Dita Von Teese. And some peeps are saying, (you already know what they are saying!lol) that RP must be single since he posed for pics w/Dita Von Teese and because he showed up to an event like this “alone” and all kinds of stuff like that. Of course, you got the “reg” posters who are saying, RP went to events by himself all the time, even when him,and KS were togther. And that is true though. I know I can’t say “I’m sick of this” whole scandal, because I do post comments regarding this scandal. Lol But seriously, I’m getting annoyed w/ all the stories and rumors. I just couldn’t imagine living in a world like RP and KS. Especially KS. People REALLLY HATE her, even before this scandal.smh. And they hate her because she was/is dating RP. So people were jealous. And people hate her because they feel she just got “lucky” because of Twilight because they say that she has no talent and doesn’t deserve what she has got. It just amazes me, how much jealousy is out there. And how many bitter people are out there. Geesh! And dating RP comes w/ a price tag. And a death sentence per say. I mean, RP would be alot to take on period. He really comes w/ ALOT of “unwanted baggage” per say. And I’m sure he would like to get rid of that “baggage”. Meaning, Crazy, psycho, over invested fans= unwanted baggage. Ferl bad for him. And of course KS. I think either way, KS is damned either way. People love to hate her, it would seem. Sorry for my long rant!lol. It was inspired by the crazy, psycho “fans” of KS and RP. Lol

    • ss

      Correction: “feel” bad for him.

    • nena

      what does smh mean? They really need to move to a different state or country? Really!! I was over there for a short bit and some people say that others saw KS in the bathroom, and tweeted about it. Why is it a big deal to go to a function alone? They are not joined at the hip, even married people go to things alone, wow!!

    • ss

      Smh means shaking my head.

    • nena

      oh funny

  • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

    What do you all think of Rob being out alone last night at the Dance benefit at Disney concert hall?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Oh please. PR.

    • northGAgirl

      Agree…I only hope that if his people are putting him in PR positions in the future they tell him to appear non-hungover and less disheveled…goodness he looked rough in some of those photos.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He’s unhappy. Depressed. And he hasn’t a clue as to his complicity in all this. Feels like a passive recipient. That will make you feel and look lousy.

    • nena

      Yeah I dont think either look ok so what is up with that, If they are both so miserable that would tell me something sooooo. So do you have new theories? who, what ,when, where and why? Im so torn.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nick Frenkel. He has the most to gain out of a break-up. And you just know Kristen doesn’t like him. He is so much the type of Shiloh, who tested for the part of Edward and lost because of her.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He does not have a past reputation for toeing the line. Kristen has changed him but he is reverting. I guess his drinking buddies will be happy now.

    • nena

      are you talking about the LA Dance thing?

    • northGAgirl

      Yes….I thought he looked as bad as he did at some of the original Twilight premiers. His hair was a mess, dark circles under his eyes. Honestly, and I hope to goodness he doesn’t fall into this category, he looked like he had just come off a cocaine/booze bender (I have friends that were into cocaine and they looked eerily similar after they ‘partied”)

    • nena

      I hope not but it is a sign of depression!, The wrong people are telling him wrong stuff, like ” oh Rob you need to get out, get drunk get a hooker, get a new GF. That is not what he needs, he needs her!!

    • Pat

      @Aitch Slavic:I think he is really working hard on mendng his relationship with Kristen (being sarcastic here). Just saw pictures of his night out and he was talking and it looked like flirting with Ditia Von Tess (Hw notorious bad girl). The pictures are all over the internet. Then you see him having his picture taken with Natalie Portman (who got pregnant with her friend’s boyfriend) the posters are posting over at HWL , Celebuzz,and GC that Natalie was sleeping with her friend’s boyfriend while the friend was still with him. Apparently the guy and friend’s relationship had been going on for two years. Natalie started sleeping with him and got pregnant while he was still with his girlfriend. So you can say she did more than Kristen did and Nick ad Rob are worried about him being seen with Kristen? Oh, and the article says Natalie is counseling Rob on relationships for she helped Jude Law during the Siennia incident. Wonder how his friend Tom S. likes that he is going to Natalie for advice after she trashed his girlfriend and child’s mother? I looked up Ditia Von Tess on Wikipedia since I didn’t know who she was. I guess I have not seen any of her work because I don’t watch porn, go to strip tease or burlesque dace parties where she is the star, go to orgies with other women and men or keep up with who Marilyn Madison has married lately and divorced. I say it again, Nick and Rob are worried about his career if he takes back Kristen and is seen with her in public?????? Makes me wonder if what people were saying about Rob wearing the Avonlon Swinger shirt at Conchella Music Fest were true now. Ditia Von Tess is definantly a swinger from her Wikipedia Bio. I think Kristen needs to dress up and be seen out without Robert but with better more respectable people in the film industry. He has been seen out twice now since her TIFF video and she is no where to be seen. Over at HWL they are blaming Kristen for Rob having to be out without a date since he is so conflicted on what to do now that she has cheate on him and broken his heart BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. They think he should have an escort and it should not be Kristen who will ruin his reputation. I don’t know what to think of Mr. Pattinson anymore but one thing for sure he doesn’t have a broken heart and looks like he is going back to his old routine where he parties and Kristen minds the fires at home. This is just wrong. Maybe they arn’t together in Rob’s mind?

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      OK so the two times Rob has been seen “out” is last night, and at a band music thing last weekend– is this correct?
      The event last night was a benefit and I am interpreting his appearance as some sort of obligation/ debt professional related thing Or Rob is a new patron of the dance arts, or he always has been one and we never knew it. There could be no other reasons. As far as what he did afterward? But this did’t look like a big night of partying.
      I don’t know the character of Nick, Kristen usually didn’t previously attend things with Rob, therefore it is not out of character for her to be absent. That’s why I can’t say Nick is self serving and malevolent.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Pat I have just read pages of your comments. Hard to keep up with. I can’t follow you because disqus doesn’t have that follow button on your profile. Did you disable it?

      Aitch I have already said what I think about this charity affair. Nick is certainly behind it. At the same time it digs at Kristen for what she said about charity affairs in her Little White Lies zine interview. Subtle, but Nick is being careful now. He is gradually gathering the strings altogether. Rob looks well, just look at his pic not what the media says about how he was at the party, Look at his face, his eyes.

    • pcardax

      Moreover, his presence at the event creates new photos to the delight the “devoted fans” and new gossip to the tabloids … maybe Nick receives a fee for this! And Kristen has not been until now the girl friend best suited to power the gossip.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nick Frenkel is a variable in the Kristen bashing at Gossip Cop. And the leaks there.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: What leak are you talking about? Sorry for the ranting in the above post. Can’t stand Nick.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nick Frenkel, Rob’s manager, leaks information to Gossip Cop for articles concerning Rob. What he wishes to put in bold and underline in Gossip Cop gets put there, and what he wishes not to be there is suppressed. But always the window stays open to bash Kristen. She stands between him and the greater influence that he wants with Rob.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      And now that I have said it again and it is out there, it is credible. That’s what I want. Credibility.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Of course he does re: your last sentence. What an ego boost for an ambitious agent/manager–in creating a huge successful star–the general public won’t know; we are to busy worshiping the “stars” But in H-wood everyone knows “Oh you are responsible for so and so winning an Oscar” or whatever!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You got it. I bet there have been power pulls with Stephanie Ritz and him. I bet he won.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I agree and you know Steph. had a baby so what a perfect time for NIck.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      It is a subtle dig, even unconsciously, at LWL interview. I think Rob looks right at home. I hope Kristen is able to start moving on soon.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: It was a dinner to benefit Natalie Portman’s charity project for dance. I imagine this was set up by Nick too. From what I know Rob is not or was not a sponsorer of the dance arts. It got Robert seen with older actors at a charity event which he seems to be doing a lot lately. I agree with you it was a dig to Kristen and Rob is fitting in well with all the fakes now. So I wish him luck with his movies and hope the fakes will support him at the box office and in getting more roles after this free PR he has milked from Kristen. I doubt this will happen for those type of people are like sharks, always attacking each other for a role. Right now it is a good thing for actors to be seen with him since all his fans are so worried about him and he can give everyone around him PR. Look at Katy Perry and Rhiannia. You would have thought they were the only ones there for the VMAs and they beat out everyone even Lady GaGa. Was it because they had worked the support Rob campaign before the awards? Oh no, Jimmy’s prank was to make people think Tracy Morgan passed out at the Emmys. Nothing about Rob and Kristen. This is sick and not funny at all. Sorry for the interruption. I really feel sorry for Kristen and I hope she doesn’t go back with rob for he is turning into the rest of Hollywood which she dislikes. Wonder how many of the actors that are using Rob now will remember who he is when the Kristen scandal is long forgotton and he is just another actor out there doing anything he can to get a role. Kristen needs to dress up and go out with James Franco or someone who is big in the industry but does not have to brown nose or play poor pitiful me to get their name out there. She needs to be with someone whose name is already there due to their acting ability and not their brown nose ability. The more I see and hear of how Rob acts the less I like him.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He looks very unhappy in that photo with Portman. Hang on a little bit longer until he gets with Herzog. Herzog is interested in the unusual. Unusual people, events, anything out of the normal. Rob is unusual and I think that is one reason Herzog wanted him. Herzog also “rescues” actors. Cage recently, Bruno a long time ago, Klaus Kinski, Australian Aborigines, the guy on death row in Texas, many many more. He is a visionary and once Rob works with him, he will have a model in his mind of original and counterfeit.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: Go to Just Jared or (hate it but had to go there) Robsessed if you want to see more pictures of Rob at the benefit. They have one on Jared where there is a pic. of a woman but in the background you see Rob laughing and talking to a man. Looks like he is having a very good time. Just Jared reported in their article that Rob was helping Natalie Portman and husband host the benefit. It listed him as accompanying Natalie and introduced him as the star of the movie Cosmopolis. Nothing about BD2. It also said they were friends since they lived next door to each other in LA. It went on to say that Natalie was helping him work through the cheating scandal for she had been there for Jude Law when he went through this with Siennia. Wonder how Tom liked hearing that Rob was now getting help from the woman that trashed his fiance and mother of his child? I guess they forgot that Natalie Portman broke up her friend and boyfriend when N sleep around with the guy while he was with her friend still. She got pregnant while he was still in the relationship so he brokeup and married N. Tess is the biggest stripper and porno actress out there and was married to Marilyn Manson. Good PR for R to be pictured with a cheater/ homewrecker on one arm and with a stripper/porno star on the other arm. They were worried what Kristen did and being seen with her would hurt his reputation????The article was more about Rob and the women he was with that they left out the info on the benefit and Natalie’s husband’s involvement with the project.. This just looks like a Nick PR stunt and a slap towards Kristen to me. Why can’t Rob stop letting them exploit him like this or maybe he likes playing the Hollywood game. You can tell they are using him for PR and milking Kristen’s set up to get the PR. I wonder if all these actors and media dogs will remember who Rob is when this scandal has past and he has to rely on his acting ability not what happen in his life to get the media to promote him and get invites to benefits from his so called actor buddies. They say it is a dog eat dog business. Looks more like sharks rounding up prey to me. Right now he is on top and everyone wants to be his friend so they can be seen with him to leech off the free PR. I just wonder how his status will be when this has past and he doesn’t have a scandal to help promote him in their society. Will they still know his name or will he have to go back to his drinking buddies for comfort. If I was Kristen I wouldn’t go back with him an lower myself to these standards he is seeking now. I think Nick is trying to make it look like Rob runs with the older Hollywood A-lister instead of the teeny poppers he was running with. Sad they are using him, he is using Kristen and does not seem to be man enough to stand up to Nick and the others for what is right. I never saw Emma Stone, Andrew Garfield, Toby McGuire are any of the other young actors do this. This has Nick all over it. When is Rob going to get a better manager and agent? The movies he was slated to do are going to be in pre-production for a long while since they were filming in the Middle East and it is not safe to go there right now so I wonder what Nick will have lined up next to promote his puppet.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      OK now I know who you are as this has your linguistic syntax all over it. Cool. If you want to understand why rob is doing this you will have to do a rather classic Freudian interpretation on him, his father, his mother, his sisters, and the story you have gotten from him piecemeal from interviews over a period of 4 years. I certainly am not going to do that publicly. I am not in the killing business yet. I hope, but am sorely tempted sometimes.

      NIck Frenkel is an amateur. Please, when you use his name, use his full name, as I want his full name, the fact that he is rob’s manager, to be repeated over and over, until what we have said is commonplace knowledge. The fact that Nick Frenkel is tight with Abrams who is the founder of Gossip Cop. gossip cop uses a clever technique of running the headline of a trashing story from somewhere else which catches the eyes of those who delight in that person getting bashed. OK?

      Then when you click on the title the article below debunks it saying it is false. What a letdown eh? But then we have the comment section for all those who refuse to believe the debunking, don’t care that it is false, and just want to dump on the person they dislike.

      So we have an assertion.
      Then we have the negative of that assertion.
      Then the comments give us the negative of the negative,which is the affirming of the trashing headline.

      It is important that this structure be clear. It is always repeated. It follows De Maupassant’s journalist’s advice to DuRoy in Bel Ami. Write the truth but in such a way that it can suggest the opposite. Write the false in such a way that it can be proven false. (paraphrasing here but you get the idea.)

      The foolish fangirls think Gossip Cop is exposing false stories about Rob and protecting him. So they will comment extolling Gossip Cop for clearing Rob’s reputation. But you will notice when they expose the false story about Kristen the comments do not praise for clearing up the truth about Kristen, but instead, take Gossip Cop to task for trying to prove that she didn’t do what they so vehemently believe she in fact did do.

      We are here back to Adam and Eve. Eve is still being blamed for corrupting humanity with her evil seductive ways, ruining Adam and all mankind. The fact that this event merges with ADAM AND EVE simply cements it in the minds of silly girls and foolish women. They cannot see it any other way.
      Nick Frenkel aids and abets this while masking it as protecting Rob’s image. He is carefully shaping Rob’s image in the direction he wishes it to go. Rob is allowing this. So far. But it is clear he is not happy about the way things are. Yes he looks happy when talking to someone at a party. He has had a few drinks, and they are nice to him, wealthy people, influential people with money and if Mrs. Soros was there, we are talking about a lot of money. But George Soros will not be fooled by the Cronenberg fiasco with Rob at the NYSE bell ringing travesty. Soros puts a lot of money from his Open Society foundation into the hands of people working for change. A lot of start up money for radicals. Soros studied with Popper at the London School of Economics and he is carrying on with Popper’s message. He has said that he should not be allowed to do what he does. He is the same as Eric Packer. He bets on currency moves. In the 1990′s he shorted the UK pound. He came within a hair of breaking the Bank of England. This is cyber-capital. What DeLillo’s Eric Packer destroys in one day, but Cronenberg’s Eric Packer does not. Cronenberg made the movie partly to seduce Wall Street money for financing for his next film. What do you want to bet he won’t get it now that Cronenberg’s Cosmopolish has crashed at the BO.

      Rob knows very well how to act charming at a party like this, how to smile and behave as if he is having a wonderful time. natlaie Portman said after Black Swan concerning the bodies of ballet dancers, that the whole thing is sick, this starving to be super skinny. But her new husband who is a jerk IMO has a career as a choreographer, so she must do what she can to make sure he can continue to work at the level to which he is accustomed, as a director of choreography. As Yvonne Rainer said in the 1960′s about ballet, “It’s all about look at me how beautiful I am!” Rainer choreographed dances for fat people, old people, well all sorts of strange dances that were haunting. Pina Bausch directed a dance company that made dances to take your breath away. Wim Wenders made a film of Bausch, her dancers, the work, the performances. It is gorgeous and her work is worth so much more than this charity event for this dance company to build up the ego of Portman’s husband that I want to vomit. Rob simply has no real personal culture nor does his family. He does not come from it and that’s why he had a difficult time at boarding school. At least one reason why he did. He is impressed with all this masquerade. He was not insulted to get “best dressed” at the Golden Globes. If they had done that to a woman, there would have been an uproar. He didn’t even seem to get the insult.

      Ah, he is just not as smart as we have been fooled into thinking. That’s probably what it is. I have some screenplays in mind for him that would be wonderful. Sadly they will probably keep sitting on disc. I feel compelled to say all this as I think you can help. You have a way of taking in a lot of information and trying to collate it.

      Natalie’s body was inscripted (read Nietzsche and Foucault) by her husband when he was her choreographer for Black Swan. She became erotically sensitized as never before and he got her. And he deliberately got her pregnant, seduced her into having his baby. Then he had her. He is a dud. But since she went to Harvard she got dumb. As did Jodie Foster after Yale. Her defense of Kristen in the Beast was in a dominating Discourse completely demolished by Foucault in the 1970′s. He did it in his Lectures on Abnormal at the College de France in 1974-75 going against the argument from early environment and delinquency to criminalize the adult in court and sentence him/her. This is the argument Foster used to smooth over Kristen’s “SCANDAL” manufactured by the media, as like any “theory” can be inverted to use either way, to criminalize or excuse. Genet with the help of Sartre fought this with everything they had to kill it. Foucault finished it. It is a Discourse, only a discourse, and discourses can kill.
      People know what they say.
      They frequently even know why they say what they say.
      But what they don’t know is what they say does. – Michel Foucault

      I am presently working on those “cheating” pics by reading through Foucault’s book: Manet and the Object of Painting. Those pics replay what Manet did in painting 150 years ago to change painting and usher in modern painting after Impressionism was over. In the same way Manet’s paintings can be read as photoshopped by inversion. Manet did paintings that parallel those pics. And that is what has shocked everyone which is obscured by the content of the pics and the people. But if you regard them as figures in a painting frame, it all changes into something very different.

      I could use some help. I have not seen all 50 pics. Do you know where they are. Link?

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: So, Nick Frenkel is using Gossip Cop as a means of reverse psychology on those who read the article and post comments?
      If this is what he is doing to form Rob’s image and distort Kristen’s image then he has a very devious and manipulative mind. The pictures you are asking about can be found on PopSugar. They have them listed as 55 but I only saw around 15 since some of the 55 were the same picture used over. Here is the link. http://www.popsugar.com/kristen-stewart-rupert-sanders-kissing pictures. I just tried it and it said page not found. I don’t know why it does not work now but when the page comes up that says not found look at the top where it is written Celeb Life. Click this and it will show catagories. Click on the Celebrity PDA. It will show you three pics. one being Rupert and Kristen. Click that to go to all pics. A group of small pictures will come up but to see all of them click up at the top where it says more pictures 1-55. There are a lot of things wrong people are picking out in the car pictures now that you can see all of the car pictures taken. Let me know what I can do to help with the other. I do agree with you about Rob but it makes me disappointed in him that he would let the money, fame, and position of others use him this way or go to his head like this. It is almost like he is social climbing to do this or allow Nick Frenkel to do this to him. It is social politics. He is playing the game to jockey a position for himself and those who live off of him. I don’t know if he is cunning or lacks the ability to see when people are using him for their own entertainment or needs.

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: I am adding this to my above post. When I went to the link I gave you it now says page not found. I don’t know why since that is what came up when I went there and got the pictures. Try this: google PopSugar Kristen Stewart. It will take you to a list of Kristen Stewart articles on PopSugar. Scroll down to the one titled Kristen Stewart -Rupert Sanders Kissing Pictures dated August 3rd. If that does not get you there let me know. I don’t know why the link didn’t work.

    • nena

      you know Im still so confused about the order of that day? All the written stories say he called her she went to warehouse/ha his office and kissed then went to several places and kissed then finally went to scenic place/dirt road with fence, but he couldnt have gotten out of the car the way it was parked unless he got out first and she went to turn car around, And then all the strange pics there and then she drove him few blocks from home and he walked home, so the walking pics could be walking home, b=BUT why do we have those pics of him walking??? what did that prove? I wonder if KS was at the LA thing, someone said she was in the bathroom??? The only pics I saw of him at that event didnt look all that bad, strange choice of women to be in photo with not many really tho. It seems people are starting to wonder about RP. U guys dont think he was in on it do you? He I hope comes to his senses fast.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No. NIck Frenkel Rob’s manager is “shaping” Rob by putting him in celebrity situations where he meets more secure wealthy people and talks with them, dialogues with them. It is a social environment that appears upscale because of the celebrity and wealth of the people there. And some have distinct accomplishments as well. As Nick Frenkel weans Rob away from his “hobo lifestyle” he will adopt a more upscale social life. This means not going to pubs and drinking with his buddies, this means going to members only restaurants and clubs which are private, in which “serious” matters are discussed as The Little Prince might say.

      Rob is malleable. Kristen does not manipulate. She does not try nor want to control him. But does she want his lifestyle. The bar drinking one or the social now handmaid/wife one. I suspect neither. So Nick Frenkel has put her between a rock and a hard place, into a catch-22.

      The inversion Nick Frenkel uses with Abrams in Gossip Cop is very old. Ayn Rand has it in her journal as she was researching Hearst for her character of Gail Wynand. The newspaper does not report the news, it makes the news. This is one of the themes of Bel Ami by de Maupassant that you didn’t get to see in the film as it was all muddled from the muddled minds of the directors Donnellan and Ormerod.

      So yes it is a devious thing Nick Fenkel is doing and it is very socially acceptable in the business. It seems to me that you and I are the only ones seeing this clearly. so I guess it is up to us to out tabloid Nick Frenkel’s tabloidism. It’s just the 2 of us and maybe a 3rd in Bosnia. But if Ai Wei Wei can hold off the whole fucking Chinese Government, I guess we can do it. The American Victor Herman held off the whole Soviet Union, just like Solzhenitsyn.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That link to pop sugar has been scrubbed. Interesting.

    • pcardax
    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Thanks. I did get them from another email. In light of Foucault on Manet they are even more interesting. Please read the comments on http://focusfree.blogspot.com

    • nena

      I have quite a few I could email U

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes please email them to me. I have some but not 50, and I have not seen all of them. This is getting worse. Nick Frenkel has stepped up the game. We need to bury him.

    • nena

      ok

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Please check the comments on focus free about this. http://focusfree.blogspot.com top post.

    • nena

      Look at the picture with her looking bored and rt hand on hip and other hand on rail behind rup her left hand can be seen behind rup back, funny I never noticed the her arms wernt the same length. some one else wrote this

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Please read our comments on focusfree: http://focusfree.blogspot.com the top post. the one of the new video.

      I think some of those photos are real of her and some are photoshopped. But when the fake ones are mixed in we read them all as Kristen because of the context; her clothes, the place, the car, etc. Maybe we need a class action suit in her name against everyone involved.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Can you get on gmail and get all these people in a circle. We can also google chat while we all look at these pics.

    • nena

      yea now?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      When you have time. I just went through all of the pop sugar ones and with my new eyes it was a different experience yet once again. I have 2 saved of him looking at the camera that they have “eliminated” ? Why?

    • nena

      Because you know why, proves he knows the camera was there, and then he must tell KS and she looks and he is laughing, also in that same picture his face looks fat, not like the others

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      So by laughing did he reveal to her that he intended it? Or that it was a happy happenstance? Or does he laugh out of nervousness the way Rob does? Why does he laugh. I noticed that.

      If pop sugar got rid of them, then pop sugar is in on this? In return for a 3 day exclusive on them?

    • nena

      I dont know why he laughed, if he laughed and said something she would have wondered. She does not look like she sees anything in that pic. I just emailed you the pop sugar pics

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Was he making fun of her fear in a joking way? To disarm her? I believe now that he is in on it in a very big way. He will become a well paid director for Summit over this.

    • nena

      did you get the email?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I think that poster – name keeps changing – who said that Sanders seduced Kristen on purpose is in with Nick Frenkel, Abrams, Summit and Sanders is now getting a director job with Summit. So while people think Summit is in on it it terms of contract stuff, are they in on it in terms of their little financial empire that includes Nick Frenkel, Abrams, Sanders, and Rob as a money making machine. What if they all engineered this SCANDAL to test drive their plans and get rid of Kristen. You see if the biggest tabloid – Gossip Cop – is aligned with Summit, then Summit can control the image of the actors, how much money they have to pay them, and keep them hostage. And they have demonstrated their power with Kristen. They made her the highest paid actress and now they take it away. We can do to you what we did to her. And if Nick Frenkel gets Rob into “higher” society and he gets used to liking it, will he want the lower key life of indie productions. Rob is an artist, but has been fearful to risk it all on music, as it was too insecure for him. He was ready to quit acting before Twilight and give that up.

      You see the humiliation thing was drummed into him by Nick Frenkel. Right away, as soon as Rob found out. Frenkel whisked him away. To Reese’s. Frenkel is also involved in real estate. Rob’s assets – his house – are in a trust and Nick is the executor. Rob’s house was spotted listed by a Florida realtor in Nick Frenkel’s name. He can do this if he is the executor of the trust. So there was lots of buzz about Reese’s place being secluded and a getaway for Rob, whether he was there or not. It was said that because Reese and Rob became friends while making WFE she offered it. Reese is a smart money cookie. Then we read that Reese’s house is up for sale. So she got all this free publicity on how great and secluded the house was, how beautiful and peaceful when Rob was supposed to be staying there. FREE ADVERTISING courtesy of Nick Frenkel who I bet has his fingers in that piece of real estate transaction. Supposedly Rob went there with Nick Frenkel who stayed with him, and suppodedly they went to the local bar. so Nick Frenkel goes out drinking with Rob. Tell me why…………ha ha ha!

    • nena

      You dont think Rob was in it do you?just the others you mentioned. You know I dont know why but today when I was watching the today show I thought about emailing kathie lee gifford and tell her the story, frank cheated on her once. I dont know I just want something to help. I can see RP going along with Nick Frenkel get sucked into it, I can just imagine what NF said to RP right aft it happened. The only thing is is RP really that big a deal to them? He doesnt have any other projects with summit does he? I just cant think that they think he is going to make them that much money, only Twilight has so far, he is going to get dumped by them if the 3 movies coming up dont do well, and only Nick Frenkel will get anything out of them>

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The ones coming up are not going to be big BO. But they will be critical successes. That is what Rob has said that he wants. But if Nick Frenkel can get rob addicted to the lifestyle of the rich and famous, – who don’t BTW pal around with indie filmmakers – then after those critical successes he can push rob into a studio one which will get him back on everyone’s screen. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Frenkel will be seen as a hot shot, get more clients, keep his in with Abrams, Summit, etc and be home free. The directors that tried to ride into Hollywood on Rob’s back were small potatoes. these guys know how to do it.They are big playas. Kristen was too out of the mainstream for them. Too much mouth on her. Let’s shut her up.

    • nena

      he will end up like heath ledger

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes he could. Someone said he looked stoned in his picture with Natalie last night. His eyes were dead. Is coke being made available to him? Ledger was just too perfect an actor. The only thing for perfection is death. The Black Swan. What she said, “I wanted to be perfect.”

    • nena

      I didnt look that close at him, I hope not. The only thing is with LL and AB in the news alot hopefully Nick will not be a dumb ass and do something like that Rob wont be able to work high all the time so no more money

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      We are talking about 100 million dollars of Rob’s money to play with. Nick Frenkel has a fast food mentality like everyone else. He is not in anything for the long haul.

    • Chancellor

      It was rumored that Katy Perry had coke parties in Malibu. Her and Russel Brand were known for these parties. You can tell if a person is stoned by their eyes. They are dialated and they can’t hide it. Their pupils get big. Rob’s eyes did look dialated to me in the picture but he looked more drunk. I don’t know what is going on but I hope he is not falling into the pit of Hollywood Hell with Nick Frenkel leading him around. I don’t think Nick liked that Rob listened and trusted Kristen more than he trusted him but I guess this trust issue is about to take a nose dive with Kristen. I think Rob has an inferiority complex and now a trust low self estem problem. Just ripe for the picken for Nick to take control of him.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I am afraid so. There was a huge positive transference on Rob. The cracks are now showing and the negative narcissistic transference will begin and it will be terrible. He is losing all his educated articulate women and you can bet your farm that Cronenberg did this deliberately. Viggo dominates him but he dominates Rob. And that left Rob fair game for his manager, Nick Frenkel to put the collar and leash on him. And he will smooth talk him and Rob will never know he is being controlled. Any of his people who read us will make sure he does not.

      Look at what happened to Obama. All those white boys in his cabinet led him to disaster. It will be a very long time before another black man is elected. But hey, we never had one in the first place. All we got was Franz Fanon’s Black Faces, White Masks.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Then Rob is pretty dumb if he can’t see through Nick–if indeed what your saying is true about him-and-I think it is possible. So many people who know KS have remarked that she is gifted in her ability to detect BS and when people are shoveling it.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Trust me. I have gone through that all my life. It takes me awhile but since I have lived in MO, the show me state, I am deadly. BTW it’s not ” oh that’s great, show me!” It’s standing with folded arms, legs planted apart, tight jaw and mouth gritting out, “Show me. I fuckin’ dare ya.”

      Rob has a long history of not seeing through dumb directors, and conniving ones. He doesn’t get it. He has “take advantage of me written all over him.” I didn’t understand this until I moved to MO. I can meet anyone and in a couple of minutes just now they want me to rip them off. It’s a horrible perception to have.

    • pcardax

      I think this is very near to the truth. Do you think there is hope for Pattinson? and Pattinson and Kristen together, if she still wants him? I am very sad and disgusted.

    • nena

      its very sad

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well then don’t be sad, be mad. If we disrupted the tabloids so much with our viral video we can do a lot more damage. Are you following me on disqus? I hope I am following you as you come up in email when you reply to me.

      We just have to out tabloid the players. they have just upped the ante with this marriage thing and conditions for reconciliation, so they have hit the ball back in our court. Where is Jenni on all this?

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I feel the same pcardax

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      F*ck!~

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yeah but now their dirty little secret is out there circulating. I need to begin tweeting. Help.

    • nena

      is this the twilighter person? or do they just blog?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes it is the twilighter person with her own blog. Room there to talk. This whole thing is out of hand.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes it is the twilighter person with her own blog. Room there to talk. This whole thing is out of hand.

    • nena

      is this the twilighter person? or do they just blog?

    • Chancellor

      @abbeysbooks: I hope this is a mistake but I have wondered the same thing since I heard Summit is in contract with Sanders to direct a movie in the near future. I thought it was strange that all of a sudden you see Rob out with older actors instead of the young group he was usually with. I can’t see Kristen bending to Nick Frenkel like Rob is so I bet there will be a nice little trophy girlfriend soon Rob can take to all the A lister benefits soon. Specially chosen by Nick Frenkel. Also Reese’s house was in People mags decorated edition showing how beautiful the decorated areas were. This edition came out right after it was said Rob was staying there. This was before any mention of it going on the market.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      We are in agreement. That Reese thingy had Nick Frenkel’s footprints all over it. So that had to do with a real estate deal yes. I have said that too. Also dumb NIck Frenkel, Rob’s manager, let Rob go to the NYSE and smile adoringly at Cronenberg while he rang the opening bell and say a huge fuck you to Occupy. And we know Rob’s natural sympathies are with Occupy but well, where did he park his brains that day? Nick Frenkel, Rob’s manager, smiled at the ceremonies at the NYSE watching Rob so he approved it and maybe even suggested it and arranged it. An opportunity for Rob to mingle with the big money crowd and enhance Nick Frenkel’s persoanl comfort zone? What a catastrophe. He did more damage to Rob’s image than if Kristen had been naked fucking Sanders on the grass! All Rob’s peer age group are not dismayed at his betrayal, they are disgusted. Their families, their friends, their sympathizers, the DeLillo academics, not to mention DeLillo himself with a knife in his heart that he can’t get out.

      Universal is in this somewhere. SWATH was a Universal movie. Universal has the foreign license to distribute Hunger Games and Hunger Games was made by Lions Gate.

      It is time the actors woke up to the games of the studios. Many have. But to destroy them may mean destroying the lucrative market they are in if they are at the top. they are showing it with what they are doing to Stewart. Rob is going to cave and they will suck his bones dry. It’s not like he doesn’t know tho.

      Welcome to the new Tom Cruise I hope not. there is the end you are looking at. He was a fine actor at one time and could have been great. He has been used as a pretty prop and now he is a prop. Alas they have a newer model and a prettier one. Rob will know it because his music will be the first to be affected so he will drop that. He is surrounded by idiots he listens to. This is the consequence of not going to University. There you learn through your peers what a great scholar is like, how they invite disagreement that forces them to think anew a problem, you will have mostly hacks for your classes and will get to know what a faux looks, talks, and walks like, the late night intellectual discussions with other students, and all that goes with it if you have a mind and are there for that among all the White Noise. Online Universities are going to get rid of that pronto! Universtiy degrees will now be “floating signs” that circulate globally masking the emptiness of their content.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Did you find all 50 photos?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes. Some have been scrubbed and one has been doctored since they were put up. Rupert’s eye is now closed in the clinch. But the photoshopped closed eye looks like a black eye! Lousy job. Obviously hurried. Why did pop sugar do that? Ha ha!

    • nena

      I may backfire on both,

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Rob looks like he may be going the “Hollywood party boy” route, attending parties to schmooze with all the “right” people who can get him jobs, get him ahead, go to charity events and create this image of “sexy single serious British actor dude” And now he is free to accomplish this without Kristen “dragging him down” according to Rob superfans and probably Nick. I just don’t see him and Kristen together now. Plus NIck prob. thinks it is good for Rob’s “image” to be seen out and about–image re: Kristen and “scandal”

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I am so glad I found your comment. Rob does seem now to want to be seen at “Hollywood events” with as you put it Hollywood fakes at their fake event lol So I hope Kristen is moving on and I know she has support from good people in Hollywood, artists and such. I always admired about KS that she was never at anything unless there was a very specific reason to be there. She doesn’t go to Hollywood events “just to be seen” AND she easily would be a coveted guest.

    • Chancellor

      @Aitch Slavic: That is so true about Kristen but I think her preference is to run with those in the industry that already have clout not those climbing over and tearing each other down to reach those Kristen is already friends with. Like Robert DeNero, Dustin Hoffman, Shawn Penn, Gary Marshall and other directors or big name actors that have praised her for her acting. I don’t think she wants or has to swim with the sharks to get what she wants like Rob is doing now. Wish he would work with Kristen and find new advisors. They are going to chew him up and spit him out when he doesn’t have anything else they can use him for after this scandal stuff dies down.

    • Pat

      Sorry,I ment Marilyn Manson above.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      yeah, well idk, I just saw all those pics. I would love to see Kristen out. I feel like crying.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      What pics? Links?

    • nena

      You know it could be possible that Summit has told them not to appear together until the premiere, just like they could not walk a red carpet together until BD2 is over, so like at Cannes they could not walk together

    • nena

      You know it could be possible that Summit has told them not to appear together until the premiere, just like they could not walk a red carpet together until BD2 is over, so like at Cannes they could not walk together

  • Pat

    @abbeysbooks: I tried to register with Disqus but it wouldn’t let me. It keep saying error. How do you do it? Maybe I did it wrong

    • nena

      when you are going to reply to a post underneath the comment box on the left side are a few choices, email,facebook,disqus id a D, click on the d and then you can sigh up and then when you post you dont have to put your username and email each time, mine just says “post as nena” on right side of the comment box

  • nena

    So RP was at Jimmy K after Emmy party, with some guy? Nick?? And He was with some guy at the LA dance thing, Nick?? Also HL talked with LS on her bday on the 23rd and get this she was with an old friend Simon Robinson and his partner and she says “If it wernt for Simon, I would not be out, I’m a very private girl” and someone from the website asked her about the affair that put her name in the headlines and she said “Nobody knew who I was before he cheated and I likes it better that way. Im here at 11 and you recognized me. I bet had the scandal not have taken place, you would have walked right passed me. It’s not good being hurt and devastated like me–but guess what, you certainly learn from it. I’m not mad at Rupert at all, no reason to hold grudges. ” PLease they she says she is focused on her kids. She danced and drank untill it closed. I am so mad right now, I dont like to judge people but she is a total bitch and Im now sure she was in on it I want her head and Rup balls in a blender!!!!!

    • Gosia

      Agree

    • lillicat

      Nena: Someone tweeted on GC last night that he came with Sam??? Sam Bradley, maybe?

    • ss

      The more and more I hear about Liberty, the more it seems like she is just playing a game. I feel bad for her that RS cheated on her (if this wasnT a stunt). But she seems and acts more relieved than anything from everything that’s happened. I get she is out and about, nothing wrong with that. BUT she comes off as fake. You can tell, she just doesn’t seem as “devasted” over this, at all. She is using what happened to get herself out there. I mean I get it, to turn a negative situation into a positive one. It’s just something funny about her.her actions and demeanor don’t match up to what she is saying or trying to put out there. She seems to being taking the “sympathy of a scorned women” and running with it. It’s like “look at me, look at me now, I’m a model and a actress too.” And “feel bad for me please, I need attention because my pig of a husband cheated on me, oh and can someone hire me and send me scripts please and thanks?” And ” please hire me seriously, necause I was a bored house wife and I’m too talented to be home all the time.”lol Okay, I’m done now lol. My bitchiness came out. Lol. Like U said, something is wrong with this whole scandal and RS and LR. I wish we didn’t have to hear about LR or RS at all anymore! As far as for what’s going on w/ RP, who the hell knows. I like RP, but he just seems so “secretive” about everything. At this pount, maybe KS and RP need to go their seperate ways. I like them together and not together, it just seems like so many games are being played. Like verything eith them is just so well though out, that they have to think like 5times just about one decision.

    • nena

      I agree so much about Lib, I was reading on GC, yes I did go over there because I was so mad about poor Lib on her bday, and alot of people posted that Lib cheated on Rup in 2011 or something, so yeah why did the tabs mention that little tid bit???? I am more convinced that, after the Hollywood life article that she id involved, what she said in this is so pathetic and fake, Im sorry you dont move on so fast, and if you do you wanted out. And you dont go out partying all over the world.

    • ss

      I understand, those 2 (RP & KS) have to “hide” per say, because of the amount of crazy fans and haters. And I see why they both remain quiet about their relationship and private lives. Because it’s no ones biz. maybe they both are very secretive about their relationship all these years is because their relationsjip was/is real and if they were more open w/ it people would ONLY think they were together for PR reasons. That the relationship was fake. Because of the Edward and Bella love story/romance/relationship. I mean I know people anyway already have thought their relationship was fake, PR regardless now, still. But maybe they thought if they remained so secretive people would see/realize that if they are trying to keep their relationshiquiet and not in everyones face, how could people think it was for PR reasons. Maybe showing with their actions it was/is real. Actions speak louder than words right? Just my thoughts…sorry for another rant lol.

    • nena

      I agree,

    • nena

      they may have to hide because Summit may not want them to be seen in pub together until the promos for BD2, like they could not be seen on a red carpet unless it was for Twilight so at Cannes they couldnot walk with each other

    • Gosia

      Kristen always was afraid of crazy fans. It was her, who set the rules of their appearance, and it was her who has been broken them occasionally. He conform to her rules though sometimes it’s hard for him.

      By the way, have you noticed that all Cosmopolis interviews it was his big performance? He’s never messed his hair – he never does this when he acts.

  • Gosia

    Is there anything new?
    What have you done with these photos?
    How could I help you?
    I’ll be rather busy all day but I’ll try to have a glimpse at boards. I’ll try to do my best to help you if you tell me what to do.

  • Gosia

    I have found on GC board very interesting post you will find it following me but here I want to quote the fragment about photos

    Now let’s take a look at the provable facts in this so-called scandal:

    1. By the close of 2011, it’s pretty clear to most reasonable minds that Rob & Kristen were in a long standing romantic relationship. (I’ll examine the countervailing theory that they had a faux romance that this hookup was designed to break up later.) They also had a long history of being secretive and protective about that relationship but also had a history of dropping clues as to it along the way. If anything was irrefutably true, it was that both Rob & Kristen shared an intense hatred of the paparazzi and the Hollywood gossip machine which regularly invaded their privacy and both were masters at evading it.

    2. Prior to her alleged hookup in July, Rob & Kristen’s relationship never looked stronger including ever increasing public outings together ever since “my boyfriend is English” last fall, to their mutual triumph at Cannes, to their rather open pda’s at the close of the Cosmopolis screening and at the On the Road after party at Cannes, and to their statements about each other in public.

    3.Then, within a month of the alleged hookup, came a variety of couple-like public encounters in and around LA and elsewhere, there attendance at a NJ wedding (June 23rd), followed by pretty strong evidence that they were living together at the Los
    Feliz estate. (See photos of Kristen’s return to the estate following her return from Australia on June 21st). Not to mention lots of chemistry and banter at Comic Con on July 12th. By then we were just five days from the alleged Kristen/Rupert hookup on July 17th.

    4. Also consider some of the peculiarities that came out of their mouths from the
    spring into the summer of 2012. In an Elle Magazine interview, Kristen said “You can learn so much from bad things. I feel boring. I feel like, why is everything so easy for me? I CAN’T WAIT FOR SOMETHING CRAZY TO FUCKING HAPPEN TO ME. Just life. I want someone to fuck me over! Do you know what I mean?” Rob on a panel at ComicCon on July 12 asked Stephanie Meyer about her vision for a further Breaking Dawn sequel saying “If there was another one, what would you write about? What do you think about Edward and Bella GETTING DIVORCED? And it becomes like a Mr. and Mrs. Smith situation?” (emphasis added)

    5. Meanwhile, Kristen was also separately talking up her newest project Cali, where she plays a character Mya that FAKES HER OWN DEATH in a faux snuff film and then skips out of LA with the cash and her boyfriend. And Rob was coy about a SCRIPT HE WAS WORKING ON WITH KRISTEN. And finally there is the Blackbook Magazine interview where Rob purportedly said “There was a magazine, with these pictures, saying I was getting married. No one ever knows what is true or what isn’t. Even my own mum called to ask me if it was true. It’s not. AT LEAST NOT YET.” (emphasis added)

    6. Also consider the immediate context of the period around the time that the alleged
    hookup occurs. Kristen was perhaps one of the most recognizable people on the
    planet, particularly in LA. And her Mini Cooper was nearly just as identifiable, so much so that she had taken to driving a non-descript US rental vehicle because she couldn’t drive the Mini without getting followed by the paparazzi. (See 2012 US Elle Magazine interview). And yet on multiple occasions during this critical period, she intentionally drove the Mini. Paparazzi were virtually camped out at the Los Feliz estate trying to
    track their every movement as rumors of cohabitation and an imminent marriage
    proposal were raging across the celebrity gossip machine.

    7. On multiple occasions around the critical period surrounding the alleged hookup on July 17th, Kristen appeared with her mom in LA (July 11), at ComicCon with Rob (July 12th), was photographed arriving at Gold’s Gym (July 18th), leaving Gold’s gym (July 18th), around town (July 19th), going out with Rob to Café Hotel (July 19th) to see their friend Bobby Long perform, golfing with her dad in Malibu (July 20th), leaving Gold’s
    Gym (July 21st), and attending the TCA’s (July 22th). That evening, July 22nd, was
    the LAST DOCUMENTED SIGHTING of either her or Rob for a significant period of
    time.

    Interestingly, despite the hookup claim and the story surrounding it, no pictures of her going to or leaving a gym on the 17th have ever appeared. Nor was she seen or photographed anywhere else that day other than in the “purported” make out photos. And furthermore, between June 21st after her return from Australia and July 17th, no photos of her exist other than some from her trip to and from Paris (around June 26th), the photos with her mom (July 11th), and at ComicCon (July 12th) photos.

    8. Rumors of a Kristen/Rupert hookup began circulating on the evening of July 24th
    as the cover photos of US Magazine hit the internet. Some of the photographs of Kristen and Rupert were released on the US Magazine website on July 25th, in the US Magazine print edition on or about July 28th, and purportedly all of them eventually appeared on PopSugar’s website on August 3rd. No other photos have been claimed or released, and no video evidence of the episode has ever been claimed or released.

    9. The released pictures were credited to FameFlyNet, a paparazzi firm that is engaged
    in photographing celebrities for profit. FameFlyNet itself, and as reported by US Magazine, provided an account of what they claim the photographer(s) said they saw as they took the photographs in various places around LA purportedly on July 17th. The photographer(s) themselves have never been identified, produced, or offered up for questioning, nor has their connection to or payment from FameFlyNet for the photos ever been disclosed.

    10. Conclusive evidence establishes that the guardrail “overlook” photos were taken near a house at 7237 Pacific View Drive, Los Angeles, on apparently the same day, at a place that is completely inconsistent with the version of events that is described by FameFlyNet and US Magazine. [To see the location, enter the address in Google Earth, go to street view, and look West to where the guardrail “disappears” into a large bush].
    The place is neither scenic, secluded, nor park-like nor looks north over Universal City, completely out of sight of the Hollywood sign and downtown LA which lies over a hill and to the south.

    11. Conclusive evidence also establishes that those guard rail “overlook” photographs could not have been taken after 5:15 pm as is claimed. Take a look at PopSugar #55 and carefully note the length of Kristen and Rupert’s shadow. Kristen is fully upright with a clean shadow. It’s obvious that her shadow is very short, significantly less than half her total body height. Ditto for him. Now rely on your trigonometric and astronomy knowledge, or for you math and astronomy challenged types, go to this handy little sun shadow applet at: http://www.jgiesen.de/sunshado…If you plug in LA’s long/lat 34N 118W, check the dst box, and note that Kristen’s height is about 65 inches (reported as 5 feet 6 inches). Per the calculation, her shadow should be about slightly longer than her actual height at a ratio of 10 to 10.86 at 4:00 PM. Even at 3:00 PM her shadow would be at about 2/3 of her height, at a ratio of 10 to 6.87. And at 1:00 PM her shadow should be at somewhat less than 4/10ths of her actual height. 10 to 4.18.Her shadow in these photographs is nowhere near equal to her height and thus could not have been taken after 4:00 PM as they claim, but was taken much closer to about 1:00 PM. This is the best evidence yet that FameFlyNet is lying about the time of these events and that their narrative is false. You can lie about what happened but you can’t defy the laws of planetary physics.

    12. Despite that the general location of these photos is known, the reliability of these
    images is also suspect. A recent YouTube video, “The Camera Never Lies” which recently went viral on the internet, calls them into question. Irrespective of how one views that video, there is little question that there are serious issues regarding how Rupert, Kristen, and the guard rail are proportioned vis a vis each other across the photos. For example compare the height of the guardrail in the video compared to its height in the guardrail photos or compare Kristen’s varying height and heft in relation to Rupert’s height and heft across the photos. None of these differences are explainable by their posture in the photos, the camera zoom length or depth of field or perspective distortion, and rather are highly suggestive of digital manipulation. And these effects are not subtle, but are rather quite course and obvious.

    13. Conclusive evidence also establishes that at least one photo, PopSugar 26 (and 37 which happens to be an identical re-crop of it) was taken within a gated parking lot at 2207 S. Centinela Ave. in Los Angeles, a place that is also inconsistent with the FameFlyNet and US Magazine account. [To see the property in Google Earth you will need to enter 2094 S. Centinela Ave., Los Angeles, go to street view, and turn north.] This place is not a rundown warehouse section of town but is rather in Santa Monica in an area where numerous Hollywood film-related companies and other businesses are located. TMZ Productions, which lists Rupert Sanders as one of its directors on its website, is right around the corner on 2201S. Carmelina Ave.

    14. At least one photo of Rupert walking, PopSugar 53, was also very likely taken
    immediately across the street from his house in the Runyon Canyon section of the Hollywood Hills. The location of four other pictures of him walking, probably taken on the same day, has not yet been identified.

    15. All of the “parking lot make out photos” were taken at the same place on probably
    the same day, but this location has not as of yet been identified.

    16. It is unclear whether the photos in #10, 11, or 12 above were taken on the same or
    different days from each other and those in 9 above, although there is strong evidence that those in 9 and 11 were probably taken on the same day. (See Rupert’s jacket lining in PopSugar #8 and #42).

    17. On July 26th People Magazine purportedly received and released two statements, one attributed to Kristen released at about 1 pm and the other attributed to Rupert released at about 2pm. Both statements offered generalized apologies to their significant others without detailing the episode.

    18. After the “scandal” broke on July 24th, no substantiated sightings of Rob occurred
    until nearly 20 days later until he made a series of appearances for Cosmopolis, starting in NYC with an appearance on The Jon Stewart Show and walking the red carpet for his film premier (August 13th), opening Wall Street (August 14th), appearing on Good Morning America (August 15th), and ending with an appearance back in Los Angeles on the Jimmy Kimmel Show (August 22nd). Aside from these limited appearances and one night out in NYC, despite endless unsubstantiated rumors about his whereabouts, even to this day his whereabouts are generally unknown throughout the entire period.

    After July 24th, Kristen’s whereabouts were similarly unknown for nearly 27 days, despite endless unsubstantiated rumors about her, until she was purportedly seen and photographed entering a car in Los Angeles on the afternoon of August 20th. She was later photographed leaving for Toronto (September 5) and in Toronto promoting On the
    Road premier at the TIFF (Sept. 7) and thereafter in NYC for its showing there. Aside from those appearances and the earlier referenced sightings in July, her whereabouts even to this day remain similarly unknown throughout the entire period.

    It also goes without saying that it is generally unknown if Rob and Kristen were together or apart during much of this period.

    19. Following the “scandal” breaking on July 24th, both Rupert and his wife Liberty were similarly unaccounted for during a significant period of time. Rupert first reappeared 8 days later on August 1st still wearing his wedding ring. Liberty resurfaced 13 days later on August 6th not wearing her wedding ring. They were seen together at a downtown LA office Building on August 7th, while Rupert was videotaped later dropping his groceries. Liberty was seen leaving their house on August 8th (the cross photo), seen attending the Lawless premier on August 22nd, seen outside of a Bed Bath and Beyond on the 29th, and outside of a salon on August 31st. Rupert was seen outside their house on August 23rd and seen out shopping with the kids on the August 26th. Both have been seen sporadically since. It is generally unknown the extent to which they have been together or apart during much of this period.

    AND THAT IS ABOUT IT.

    I’m not going to go through the hundreds of ridiculous stories and assertions that have
    exploded across the internet since as they are examples of what the celebrity
    gossip machine does best, MAKE UP STORIES. Stories of moving vans and dog custody fights; debates over Rob being a man whore, a bisexual, at the ranch, enjoying wild nights out, or drunk dialing Kristen; stories of Kristen’s not bathing, crying her eyes out, dropping out of Cali, seeking counseling, partying with Lindsey Lohan, plotting to get Rob back, and having screwed everyone of her past costars and directors; and both of them flying every which place on multiple continents, either together or apart, or either reconciling, fighting, or talking or not. All of junk is nonsense, and most importantly, none of it is verifiable save for unidentified “sources”.

    Including some nonsense that even Gossip Cop has claimed was true, like:

    1. That Kristen was asked to move out of Los Feliz.
    2. That following the “scandal” Rob may have momentarily stayed at Reece’s ranch but was gone by the time the story broke.
    3. That Kristen dropped out of Cali.
    4. That Rob was “blindsided” by her cheating, was very “upset”, and was not prepared to discuss the matter with her.
    5. That while Kristen & Rupert definitely fooled around, they did not have sex.
    6. That Kristen and Rupert’s hookups occurred in the last few weeks — not during the
    filming of Snow White and the Huntsman.

    All of these claims are based on unverifiable, unidentified “sources”. It matters not
    that Gossip Cop claims they are reliable. Gossip Cop, despite its claims, is just as much a part of the celebrity gossip as the rest of them are, and is deserving of no less scrutiny about its sources. And why should we believe them? Simply because they say their sources are more reliable?

    7. And perhaps most importantly, there is the matter of the so-called confessions.
    That is the thing that is really holding this whole “scandal” nonsense together,
    even if they defy common sense. And uniquely, it’s the one thing that was theoretically under Kristen’s and Rupert’s control.

    And what of those “confessions”:

    a) Well first of all, they haven’t confessed to anything themselves. Neither Kristen nor Rupert have called a press conference or spoken directly to the media or the public
    about the incident. And perhaps they never will. Their “confessions” came in the form of “statements” purportedly released, presumably by their representatives, to People Magazine. What we call in the law “multiple” hearsay. People Magazine says that Kristen’s representative says that Kristen says. Ditto Rupert.

    b) Second, the statements themselves are lacking in any detail, and as many have noted, are actually quite bizarre. Take Kristen’s for instance. If believed, she in it, for the first time, clearly and unequivocally indicates that she loves Rob as she apologizes for cheating on him in a very public manner. Rupert’s comes off as little more than a me too.

    c) Third, because these are only “released” statements, we are unable to see the confessor’s demeanor, or subject them to questioning, or to cross examination, let alone assess the reliability of those who are reporting them. Fact is people falsely confess to wrongdoing more often than you might believe and people falsely claim a confession from others even more frequently. That’s why investigators corroborate the details of a confession to make sure that it is reliable, is un-coerced, is accurate, and is not made by someone who is mentally ill, drugged, seeking notoriety, or acting out of a motivation other than providing the truth. And subject the people who claim to be witnesses to a confession with the same scrutiny.

    d) Fourth, and finally, even if the statements were accurately portrayed, what did they confess to, and who’s to say that they were being truthful in them.

    • nena

      I love you I love you I love you!!!! who posted this I love them also

    • Gosia

      I’ve tried but cannot find this post so good i’d copied it

    • nena

      what else did he or she say???

    • Gosia

      All FACTS were summed up. If you can reach to my reply “very interesting statement” – this post is above.

    • Gosia

      I’ve tried but cannot find this post so good i’d copied it

    • nena

      I love you who posted this?? This is great! anything else 1-8?

    • Gosia

      It was mark of Green Egg (probably Twilighter) but don’t remember exactly. Do you know how could I reach my own older replies?
      How to scroll down replies?

    • nena

      on disqus is the only was I think

    • Gosia

      I copied all this text

    • nena

      Yes its great!!!! so do you think this person actually knows something an “insider” has this person posted before?

    • Gosia

      The other person has told me that this post is from Twitter so it’s possibly only copied by Twilighter

    • nena

      is twilighter his name?

    • Gosia

      Twilighter is the name of the person that posted/copied it on GC
      Somebody else told me it has been seen on Twitter. I don’t know who twitted it.

    • Gosia

      Twilighter is the name of the person that posted/copied it on GC
      Somebody else told me it has been seen on Twitter. I don’t know who twitted it.

    • Gosia

      The other person has told me that this post is from Twitter so it’s possibly only copied by Twilighter

    • nena

      Yes its great!!!! so do you think this person actually knows something an “insider” has this person posted before?

    • nena

      on disqus is the only was I think

    • nena

      Is this guy an “insider” do you think he is someone who really knows?

    • nena

      Is this guy an “insider” do you think he is someone who really knows?

    • pcardax

      Nena, I follow Twilighter on Disqus. I see in his profilo other Part of Gran Punk: N. 5, 4, 3… He has published on the board of Gossip Cop, and from what I understand, he followed all the facts carefully.

    • nena

      I wonder if he is a lawyer, he talks about the law? I wonder what he thinks about LS and RS setting KS up? He is good just gives facts but I wonder does he think it was a tryst or set up? I would like to hear his theories!!

    • pcardax

      I don’t know, I have the problem of translating (and used all jargon!) But it seems to me very, very accurate in describing the fact. However it seems interesting. If You follow him, you can open the profile and activity. Or, I can try to make a file for you, but I ned your email. Can I find it on you profile of Disqus?

    • nena

      yes on disqus,

    • pcardax

      Did you find him?

    • nena

      no I dont know his name my email is on disqus

    • pcardax

      He is twilighter. I don’t see your email on disques profilo! Are you on facebook or twitter? It is for your email

      Oh, this is interesting (I find on Gossip cop) especially p. 5 e 6
      http://desdenuestrosojos.tumblr.com/

    • nena

      yes this site is good!! I looked and my email is on it

    • pcardax

      I can’t see it. Do you see my email on my profilo? I added it. Write me, I will send you the file.

    • nena

      i wrote you a message

    • nena

      got it

    • pcardax

      I do!!

    • pcardax

      He is twilighter. I don’t see your email on disques profilo! Are you on facebook or twitter? It is for your email

      Oh, this is interesting (I find on Gossip cop) especially p. 5 e 6
      http://desdenuestrosojos.tumblr.com/

    • Gosia

      It’s about post I’ve copied?
      His name is Twilighter and has Green egg as moniker

    • pcardax

      Yes, he is. On his profilo of Disques are other part.

    • nena

      yes on disqus,

    • pcardax

      Nena, I follow Twilighter on Disqus. I see in his profilo other Part of Gran Punk: N. 5, 4, 3… He has published on the board of Gossip Cop, and from what I understand, he followed all the facts carefully.

    • Gosia

      I don’t think so. Just a person with common sense. Why do you think he is a guy?
      Because of the astronomy or optics knowledge?

    • nena

      i dont know something must have sounded like it

  • pcardax

    Oh, more news!
    After the wedding / ultimatum (promptly denied by Gossip Cop) now another British newspaper, British Grazia Magazine (I noticed that lately the information on reconciliation come from England), provides an update on the saga of Robsten: Rob is probably willing to forgive and offers a month trial, the end of which decides whether to resume the relationship or not. Not only that, it also decided the rules.

    I see that the humiliation directed at Kristen have no end. I believe that we are now in the midst of advertising for the film. If this story of marriage and months of trial is part of it, is disgusting and offensive to every woman. Or maybe someone wants to make it appear that if they are leaving permanently, it will be because of Kristen, who first betrayed him and then did not accept his offers of peace. Meanwhile, everyone forgets that:
    1) pictures are fake or retouched;
    2) for six weeks Rob has remained indifferent (neither a gesture or a word) to the bullying of the media and his fans (remember the t-shirt?) That has been victim Kristen. Leaving aside the love story, not even he defended her as co-worker, an important co-worker!

    • nena

      some people need to go

    • nena

      some people need to go

    • Gosia

      Rob isn’t a fighter but I think he’s been doing what he ought to. I’ve read somwhere she had received specialist help and that’s important.
      They are very afraid of insane fans. All this crap is PR to make Kristen save. I suppose they don’t specially care what people say about them but Nick (I think) is trying to save Rob’s image.

  • nena

    Justiceforkristen.wordpress.com!!!!!! read

    • Gosia

      What’s going on?

    • nena

      its just a good article,

    • Gosia

      Which one?

    • nena

      the justiceforkristen one above, I read the long one you posted, it was real good

    • nena

      its just a good article,

    • Gosia

      What’s going on?

    • Gosia

      I haven’t seen it before. Great post but tell me isn’t exactly what I’m saying all the time?
      (or I only think I’m saying because of my awful English)
      Anyway I’m just happy, incredibly happy that someone else has concluded the same.
      Let’s link it on GC!!

    • nena

      yes all the articles are good , it shows how to photoshop a picture and just nice to hear someone else that thinks the way we do!!! yeah do link it you do it and then I will later, which article the one about Rob saying she has to marry him?

    • Gosia

      oh.. I don’t remember exactly. I’m sure it wasn’t from US.
      Wasn’t it Black Book?
      I even think it could be reason he was so “offenced” at Comic-Con – he’d tried to persuade her they would got married.
      He said not once he feels as a married man (believe me it’s not a joke if he’s devoted Catholic) but he wants the world to know.
      His conscious is clear because he treats her like wife.

    • nena

      I agree

    • nena

      I agree

    • Gosia

      oh.. I don’t remember exactly. I’m sure it wasn’t from US.
      Wasn’t it Black Book?
      I even think it could be reason he was so “offenced” at Comic-Con – he’d tried to persuade her they would got married.
      He said not once he feels as a married man (believe me it’s not a joke if he’s devoted Catholic) but he wants the world to know.
      His conscious is clear because he treats her like wife.

  • Chancellor

    I left this on the other article Jenni just put out about the reunion being a PR stunt. It was just reported that Rob was seen attending a concert The Black Keys at the Sayer Club on September 30. It was tweeted by the LA Times reporter that Rob came with a group of males, no Kristen seen, an there is also a picture of Rob and a fan that the fan took and tweeted as well. They are saying at HWL that this proves Kristen and Rob are not together since he has not been seen with her since the scandal hit. Which I guess no one has seen them together since TCA but HWL spreads lies but pictures come with this article. Just thought I would leave this here but if you want to read about it you can go to Just Jared or heaven forbid Hollywood Life to see the picture.

    • Chancellor

      The reporter said he came in with Dominic Cooper. Hollywood’s new IT Man and the new Colin Firth. You can go to The Telegraph a UK paper that has a pretty good article on him and what he believes Hollywood and LA do to actors. Sounds sort of like what Kristen said about dressing up for events and being seen and charities for PR. Just Google The Telegraph Dominic Cooper “There’s to much gravatis given to people who dress up in frocks and dance around.” That is the title of the article dated June 13.