• Sun, Sep 9 2012

Rupert Sanders’ Wife Liberty Ross Walked In New York Fashion Week Because Why?

With every day that goes by, I become more convinced that this Kristen Stewart cheating scandal was just a PR stunt. It’s increased the popularity of everyone involved, and kept a bunch of paparazzi and bloggers in business, so there really aren’t any losers except my own braincells. The question is, who was it orchestrated by? At this point, I’m thinking Rupert Sanders and his wife, Liberty Ross have the most to gain from it. See, we already knew Robert Pattinson and Kristen, but until she was photographed canoodling with him, I wouldn’t have recognized the name Rupert Sanders. Obviously I’d heard of the film that they worked together on, Snow White and the Huntsman, but he certainly doesn’t have the name recognition of some of the bigger directors.

And then there’s Liberty Ross, a name I probably would’ve gone the rest of my life without recognizing if she wasn’t the world’s most famous scorned wife right now. She’s apparently trying to make it as an actress at the moment, which totally makes sense with the timing of the cheating scandal, and in a move that only served to increase my suspicion, she actually walked in the Alexander Wang show for New York Fashion Week, which is currently going on. Okay, sure, fine, she used to be a supermodel in London, whatever. That makes sense to me. What’s a bit of a stretch is the wording in the Radar article:

“Saturday, she may have gotten her revenge.  Her striking appearance in an all white ensemble including a hooded pullover, a laser cut pencil skirt, and ultra-strappy sandal heels got the biggest buzz of the day.”

Really? The biggest buzz of the day? An out-of-work supermodel in a white hoodie-dress with weird cutouts made up as an Egyptian alien? We all really think we would’ve been this enthralled if she hadn’t been supposedly cheated on with one half of a Hollywood power couple? I feel like I’m in that story ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’, here. She doesn’t even look good, people! We’re letting them win!

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  • Faye

    She is rather scary looking. She has bug eyes or something :/ Is she really a famous model? I’ve never heard of her

    • Jimmy

      Neither have I

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Right on Jenni. Here’s why she did it:

    Liberty Ross’s Career Highlights1978Born in London, England1984Moves back to Britain after father, Ian Ross’, roller disco club was shut down in Los Angeles1985Appears in Tiffany & Co. print ads1987Photographed to be on Ozzy Osbourne’s album cover1991Spotted by photographer Corinne Day on Portobello Road in London1992Signs with Storm Models1995Begins to work with Mario Testino and quickly becomes one of his favoritesOCT 1999Debuts on the spring Paris runways for Louis Vuitton and Sonia Rykiel2000Face of Emanuel Ungaro ad campaign2000Face of Sonia Rykiel ad campaignMAY 2000Appears on the 20th anniversary cover of The Face with Kate MossJUN 2000Books the cover of British VogueOCT 2000Appears on the cover of German Marie ClaireDEC 2000Appears on the cover of Russian Vogue2000Wins ‘Model of the Year’ at the Elle Style AwardsMAR 2001Photographed by Nick Knight for British Vogue editorialJAN 2002Featured on the cover of British Vogue alongside nine top British modelsFEB 2002Walks the fall Milan runways for D&G, Etro, Fendi and Moschino2002Face of the Burberry spring ad campaign alongside Kate MossNOV 2002Appears on the cover of French L’OfficielNOV 2002Books the cover of i-D2003Marries advertising director, Rupert Sanders2003Becomes the face of Jimmy ChooFEB 2003Walks the fall Diane von Furstenberg and Heatherette shows in New York2004Gives birth to daughter, Skyla Lily Lake2004Featured in Pirelli calendar2004Guest edits British Vogue2004Becomes the face of Dior Addict Parfum2006Gives birth to son, Tennyson28 SEP, 2007Returns to modeling by re-signing her contract with Storm Models2008Solve Sundsbo photographs Ross for the winter issue of PopJAN 2009Appears in Velvet editorial, photographed by Takay2009Featured on the spring cover of DANSK2009Thierry Le Goues photographs Ross for the spring cover of French Revue de ModesJUN 2009Appears in i-D editorial, photographed by Kayt JonesOCT 2009Featured on the cover of View of the Times, photographed by David RoemerSEP 2011Appears in Solange Azagury-Partridge fall ad campaign Video»JUN 2012Appears in Elle editorial, photographed by Matt IrwinAcross the Web HOt link:
    http://nymag.com/fashion/models/lross/libertyross/

    • nena

      go look at http://tinyurl.com/9fuz2no he is looking right at the camera !!!!

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      yeah, why is that? It is weird as hell.

    • nena

      isnt it, it really looks like he is looking at the camera,he isnt looking at her!! Its kinds like “ha look at me ruin your life”

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nice cyber sleuthing. I saved it. Yes, I think he’s in it. Yes, I think he’s in it. The strategy I mean, not Kristen. A set up from the time Liberty chose her for Snow White and he cultivated her interest in directing on the set. So much more to do now. I must go get those comments back and begin. This is our window to get the tabloids by being more tabloidy than the tabloids. Following Zizek, Baudrillard and Nietzsche.
      Good work. It’s payback time Jackie Kennedy for all those shots when you were dying. It’s paypack time Diana for killing you and filming you while you lay dying and pleading with your eyes for help. Payback time Diana for making a snuff film of you.

    • nena

      Someone else found the big pic. I am mad

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No matter. It’s what you do with it. The more of them out there the better.

  • Raven Little

    Thank you Alexis!!! I’ve thought since day 2 of this mess that Liberty and RS did this to generate PR for themselves. I find it hard to believe Rob and Kristen would do this for PR…they dont need any for Twilight and they’ve always been very private about their personal lives. Both have major careers and lots of movies lined up…unlike the other two who have been in Hollywood for a long time without major success. When I saw this pic of RS pawing Kristen and looking over to make sure the paps were getting the shot…THAT’s when I knew he set Kristen up http://tinyurl.com/9vf7dew and then when I saw THIS pic of him looking once again to see if the pap was getting this shot http://tinyurl.com/9fuz2no I had no doubt at all RS did this on purpose!! And then further proof was when the paps refused to release the unedited video…they always sell the video of something like this for big bucks! I’d bet the farm if I had one that the video would show an entirely different story than the one the paps want us to believe.

    • nena

      the second pic up close like that you can see him looking at the camera, I am so sick right now how can people do this, take the kids away from these people

  • dawn

    Here’s more to add to the fire. Lionsgate is making the hunger games movies and bought summit earlier this year. Guess who is in strong contention to direct mockingjay part 1 and, or part 2, yup Rupert Sanders. I would bet money that liberty ends up in one or both movies!

    • nena

      NNONONONONONO

    • dawn

      Oh there.d morr. Liberty posted a photo to hervogue blog of a grey bird with outstretched wings in a blue grey sky. That happens to be what the cover of the book mockingjay looks like. They used Kristen for publicity!

    • nena

      crap thats right, I will be sad it has to be found out so they dont profit!!!!

    • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

      she looked like the condor she tweeted. I find that extremely coincidental and think it was a hidden joke between her and Rupert to Kristen and Robert

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      If so, surely this will be exposed, right?!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      What do you think we are doing right now? This site is so overloaded with readers and commenters that it is close to crashing.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I know. The tabloid zines can’t compete with interaction in real time can they? crushable just got put on the map.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      crushable could put out a CD of all this stuff the way robsessed puts out CD’s of public material on Rob and sells them.

    • pcardax
    • x

      First link is a fan’s list. Means nothing. Second list is an educated guess. Third link is old and concerns possible directors for Hunger Games, not the sequel.

    • x

      Rupert was in serious contention for Hunger Games as late as mid 2010 when focus then shifted to Gary Ross and Sanders signed the papers for SWATH. Francis Lawrence is directing Catching Fire. Rupert has not been considered for Mockingjay, nor is he interested.

    • nena

      Ok are you liberty or rupert

    • s

      omg! Lol Your crazy Nena lol.

    • nena

      Well…..

    • S

      I’m just saying your comment was funny. Lol Not sure if were trying to be funny or not. But I can imagine that comment being said with a deadpan face!lols

    • nena

      no I was totally, give facts not just “unnamed source”

    • lizzy

      Well “x” writes quite precisely- I’m torn between it being a journalist or a lawyer ;-) Though the “nor is he interested” comment makes it a little personal.

    • nena

      hey hey maybe x is in a position to help with the flamefly thing

    • lizzy

      Works for me! How about it “x”? What’s the deal with Fameflynet getting US Weekly photos and the Kristen crop-top photos? And while we’re at it, c’mon, who set up the original pictures? Spill! Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top…Do you accept bribes? I’m on a budget, so I can go for a Starbuck’s gift card, unless we can get a few others here to chip in?

    • nena

      Yes we could chip in for a walmart card!! no seriously do you know anything we want the truth— the truth shall set us free!!!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      We could set up a donation site with a paypal button for sleuthing on this to bring down the tabloids. to revenge for Diana. To make a documentary on this.

    • x

      “What’s the deal with Fameflynet getting US Weekly photos and the Kristen crop-top photos?”
      Dig here.

    • lizzy

      Aw x, I’ve been obsessing over this fact. Am I going in the right direction with these thoughts or way off-base:
      Famefly had control of both the US Weekly and the Kristen emerges photo – to believe she would allow them to have her “emerges” photos if they were the enemy that sold the photos to US Weekly is not realistic to me. Also, FameFly directors Simon Bridger and Danny Hayward were very close with the late Jade Goody, they became her PR people, were best men at her wedding, godfather to her child, created a book in memory of her with proceeds going to cancer fund, etc. Here’s the article:
      http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho
      And the character of these men at FameFly made me wonder about where the $ went for photos sold to US Weekly & PopSugar and if it supported the theory of the 4 key players being in cohoots to bust the tabloids on how BS it all is. Keep in mind how much KS and RP hate the tabloids and what they’ve done to their lives.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nick, Rob’s manager, is tight with Abrams of Gossip Cop and Abrams is in with Summit and invests in Rob’s films and Gossip Cop’s comment boards bash Kristen.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Summit took over Lionsgate big chiefs with their own. Lionsgate used to do small sort of indie films; good ones.

  • s

    Now we have more rumors/stories comingout now….The new one about James Franco & KS…Their supposed ,” flirting” at some party at TIFF. I wonder what story is going to come out next? Smh. And my question as always, why is KS wearing RP ring and necklace he gave her still, IF they are broken up?????

    • nena

      one story said they talked for 20 min and then he asked her to go to dinner but she said no.

  • sarah

    This blog has been nuts this whole time, but honestly, this is cruel and irresponsible. Liberty Ross has to explain to her children why daddy doesn’t live at home anymore. She gets to be mocked as being old and not desireable because her husband screwed a 22-yr old. And now you’re going to play blame the victim? Your crazy conspiracy theories were bad enough, but this is truly hateful and vile.

    • nena

      how do we know he doesnt live there any more?

    • x

      Rupert is living in the former couple’s Malibu home. Liberty and the children reside in their Hollywood Hills home.

    • nena

      Not being snippy how do you know?

    • lizzy

      While I don’t know them, “former” is a sad word here.

    • Jenni

      First of all, parents get divorced ALL the time. It’s hard on children, but they survive every single day.

      Second of all, as the resident conspiracy theorist here, they’re likely still together. Rupert’s probably gone all the time on movie shoots. So unless Liberty Ross sat the kids down and told them that he cheated on them, they wouldn’t have to know why he’s not home.

      I haven’t seen one person mock Liberty Ross in general, let alone for being old. If we say this affair really happened, then she’s certainly making lemons into lemonade by breathing new life into her modeling career.

    • nena

      He has only made one movie and that was in England and his wife was in it as we know and I think his daughter was in the last scene. So they wernt apart. And also he did commercials cant think that would take him away alot!! Im not arguing with you at all, just that all her crap about “Im a single mom crap” how could he be gone that much arnt most commercials shot in LA? But another point say if big IF he moved out then sure she could say daddys out of town for work, the kids dont need to know anything!!! so yeah your right

    • lizzy

      He has done other jobs, directing Halo, plus prepping for movies takes time away, etc. When you are married to someone who has to travel a lot for their work it does feel like single parenting !

    • nena

      i was just saying they were with him in england, and do you have to travel for commercials? Also doesnt she have a brother and 1 or 2 sisters in LA? and she lived there when she was younger so its not like she had never been there. And has family there. I had to move 6 hours away from everyone we knew, didnt know one soul and had a 1 yo and was pg, and hubby worked long long hours, that is more being a single parent, I had no one absolute n one, I just did it, didnt complain no one cares

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Liberty said she felt lonely and isolated with her two children being newcomers in LA even though she has several siblings living there. LA is so large and maybe they did not live near her.
      idk if filming commercials kept Rupert away but in the interview she does say he was away a lot and she was alone with the young children and how hard it was SO I guess that means yes, Rupert was away a lot. The marriage was rocky at certain points according to interview.

      I don’t now how wealthy Liberty is on her own but I do know they live an expensive high class life style in the Hwood Hills which takes $$$$ to cover–so was that all on Rupert–even though he was paid a high salary–or was there help from Liberty’s working money or family $$???
      I think this is important as it would shed a little light on what was going on inside the marriage–financial pressure? ambition? Become a hollywood big shot? on either of their parts?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I think neither of them wanted to be little fish in a big pond. Rupert is just too accomplished and talented for that. Liberty is sliding down at 33, needs to expand her career in different directions. Young and dumb is the way they like their models.

    • lizzy

      you are so oddly fawning over him and so bitter about her, it’s funny!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well I have changed my mind about him 180 degrees. When I’m wrong I change my mind. What do you do? – Winston Churchill

    • nena

      why hae you changed your mind about him?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Your picture baby. That eye looking at the camera. If he were noticing a pap at that point, as it has been interpreted, his natural reaction would be to pull away and pretend he was maybe comforting her, wiping a tear from her eye, patting her on the shoulder, blah blah. No, to me, he is making sure the camera knows it is he doing the kissing. But if you are seriously kissing someone in passion, are your eyes even open looking around.

    • lizzy

      I’m not sure how I feel about him or her as individuals as I’ve not met either of them – but I’m curious what brought on your change of opinion? (And yes, I also change my mind often about many things in life as there are so many gray areas :-)

    • nena

      me to its not helping my sinus headache!! so people new theories!! It would be funny if it was KS and LS, but again it seems only KS and RP are suffering, but maybe it was RS alone or all 4

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You have sinus headaches? Get a bottle of Dr. Christopher’s Eyebright at the health store. Boil 3/4 to 1 cup water then empty one capsule in it. Steep like tea. When finished put in little bottle in the fridge. Use an eye cup to rinse your eyes with it. First time will feel like fire but you will get used to it. roll your eyes around in it. Burns. Don’t worry supposed to. Then pour a little in the palm of your hand and sniff up one nostril then tilt your head back and let it roll down your throat. Swallow or spit it out, whichever you prefer. It will take care of itchy eyes and allergies. Boom. Just like that!

    • nena

      Ill have to try it, watching the video 15 times doesnt help Im trying to see if I can spot any more differences what do you think?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s fast. Demanding that you focus. I think he is suggesting that Liberty could be playing Kristen in it. Only a sophisticated filmmaker could have done this.

    • Guest

      That’s my impression too, the suggestion of Liberty.

      Almost anyone can do this these days.

    • nena

      I hope this video is the smoking gun we have wanted

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Even if it is not it doesn’t matter. All that matters is credibility.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      A pic nena sent me of the clinche in the car with Rupert’s left eye slinking to the camera. Eyes open while in a passionate kiss?

    • lizzy

      except pitbulls, I am doubtful I’ll ever change my mind about them…..

    • x

      No financial pressure. Liberty is well-off via her very lucrative modeling career and a considerable family inheritance. Only one sibling lived in LA at the time Liberty and Rupert relocated. Marriage was solid.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I don’t see her as being mocked here. Liberty is absolutely young and beautiful and really doesn’t need Rupert. And the wife and children do get accorded some automatic status leverage and clout in Society. I know I do as a Wife and Mother.

  • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

    Mr. Sanders is the type of man with whom I am very familiar. He is the type of person that befriends you to use you and get as much from you at the slightest possible cost to himself. He is a risk taker at the risk of others, knowing, well in advance, what his goal is, what his chances of success are, and what his level of exposure will be, well before he plays the game. He begins to size you up at first contact and zeros in on your most vulnerable characteristics. He is the top of the food chain, a predator, watching every move of his prey, categorizing their ticks, and carefully calculating his advantages over their weaknesses. His relationships, especially with women, are brief and to the point, hunting for the easiest target, like a lion, usually going for the young and inexperienced to conserve his energy or exposure. He
    minimizes his damages with promises or threats, depending on their weaknesses, as he lures them in for the kill and savors the delicacies of his conquests
    with an insatiable, narcissistic pleasure.
    He targets his prey based on his level of risk and exposure, knowing, the higher the profile, the lower the risk of exposure. He disregards what is morally, humanely, and civilly right. He takes advantage of his power over his prey, regardless of the consequences and harm imposed. He leaves them wounded with overwhelming guilt, self-loathing, feelings of worthlessness, and depression, allowing him to return to devour them over, and over, again, at his leisure. His position of authority allows him the luxury of praise or displeasure, knowing his prey will either be grateful or crumble into submission and he will receive the fruits of his labor, willingly, leaving them hungry for more or unsatisfied with their need to please him so they are worthy of his good graces. The situation of emotional distress, naïveté, and
    vulnerability allows him to nurture his prey, in a fatherly stature, insuring their loyalty, love, respect and tight lips, limiting his exposure to the bare minimum. He believes he is top dog and invincible. He respects no one below his own egotistical importance.

    To be precise, Mr. Pattinson, you are what Mr. Sanders deems below him, more than anyone else. You were his true target. He had to prove to himself, and you, he had the power to take what he wanted, away from anyone, even someone as beloved as you are. He had to prove he was the stronger, more desired, more
    dominant male in town. I like to think of his type as “Caesar” and you are his “Spartacus.” Ms. Stewart was nothing more than a tool for him to punish you for
    your successes and over shadowing his prominence during his hour of glory. It ate away at him that his talents could not be recognized without your name
    boosting his production of SWATH because of your relationship with Ms. Stewart. You had nothing to do with SWATH! How dare you overshadow his work, his
    talents, and his creativity with the mere mention of your name! You are a lowly actor! He is the almighty director!

    What better way to knock you down a peg or two than to take the one thing you treasure most. Ms. Stewart was your vulnerability as much as you were hers and when you add her naïveté to the mix, neither one of you had a chance against the evil that hides in the hearts of men such as Rupert Sanders. You are nothing more than immature, naïve children in his eyes, and he knew he could crush you, both, with one blow. That is exactly what he did for the sake of fame.

    He is winning. Ms. Stewart is a harlot, shunned righteously by you, the media, and the public, while Mr. Sanders, in a few short months, will receive
    pats on the back by his colleagues, and asked, “So, what was it like, you know, with Kristen? Was she worth it?” I won’t go further. You get the picture. Men
    are men when they cheat. Women are worthless harlots, damaged goods, and no longer fit to be seen with in public, when events such as these are revealed. It is always the woman’s fault, her seduction, her choice and her selfishness. Women are evil and the temptation of man. Men are the weak victims, unable to utter the word, “No” at the sight of a beautiful woman and unable to resist his own perversions in his mind because she put them there just by being a beautiful, desirable woman in his sights.

    Mrs. Sanders, well let’s be nice and say I have my suspicions. She’s not well known in these parts, virtually invisible, until this event, and lonely,
    looking to liven up her boring, mundane motherly life with a new acting career. She was totally discontent with her new home and the extended absence of her
    poor, weak victim of a husband, not to mention sexless marriage. She said so, herself. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out her part in all this.
    If I had to guess, I would bet she was heading to a divorce attorney long before this event and was the one that tipped the paparazzo. She too, has benefited
    from this event. Gee, how many offers do you think she has received for modeling, interviews, and more importantly, acting? She’s playing the innocent wife victim of Ms. Stewart’s irresistible temptations toward her weak victim of a husband, perfectly. I can’t help but wonder how long it took them to plan the
    whole thing. Those pictures, told me much more than I bet they expected anyone to see. I saw ‘set-up’ from the get go! The biggest give away were the two
    pictures of Mr. Sanders looking straight into the camera. The one by the railing looks like he was gesturing, “Did you get that?”

    You heard Mr. Sanders, “I am utterly distraught about the pain I have caused my family. My beautiful wife and heavenly children are all I have in this world.
    I love them with all my heart. I am praying that we can get through this together.” It was a staged apology, cold with no hint of sincerity in his voice
    or sweat on his brow. Praying? Oh, he didn’t mean what it seems he meant! He flubbed his words! He forgot the last three! “I’m praying that we can get through this together, without getting caught!” You’ve read his other comment, “I would do absolutely anything and everything to save my marriage.” Yeah, I believe that. How about this lie, “It was the worst mistake of my life.” Let me hear Mrs. Sanders say that. She’s riding on a high horse with wings, right about now.

    Wow, what a trade off and complete role reversal, “The demise of Kristen Stewart’s acting career for the rise of Liberty Sanders.” Who is overshadowing whom, now?

    It makes me so sad to see people do this to each other. Do I just have an over active, devious mind? I feel ashamed of myself for being no better than the tabloids. Please forgive me for not erasing this evil trash, but if I can see it, and think it, do you really think it’s that farfetched? I am just a normal person, sitting on the outside, looking in. I believe the Sanders, without Ms. Stewart’s knowledge, orchestrated it and she truly is as much a victim as you. The Sanders have destroyed so much goodness and it is painful. I am so sorry. I hope you see what I see and salvage yourselves, together or separately, it doesn’t matter, as long as you both survive with your heads held high.

    Why is it the woman’s responsibility to say “NO” and it’s “OK” for a married man to seduce, approach or say “Yes” to his sexual urges instead of him being responsible enough at 41 yrs. old to fight those urges, even if he is the one approached?

    • Not so sure

      Well if this is your assessment of Rupig and what may have gone down it doesn’t change the fact that she cheated and that the damage has been done. He would not have succeeded if she wasn’t receptive to his advances. Does it make it the cheating less painful and hurtful to Rob? I doubt it It’s the same with the FBI sting. They have nothing if there are no takers. It also that Kristen is still very emotionally immature and may need a few years on her own to figure out what she wants in life and to get real life experiences. She been in a bubble for most of her life despite her jet setting life.

      Sure we all know logically that Rupig should take most of the blame but no one cares about him.

    • nena

      we dont know everything , maybe she wasnt receptive at all but of course we wont see pics of that, say she pushed him away and slapped his face, of course they would not print those pics because it doesnt support the juicy story they wanted to tell.

    • Not Sure

      Those pictures of them kissing in the car look like she is very receptive to him. In one pic she is leaning into him to kiss him and then embrace his head as he starts to kiss her neck/chest area. Even if you believe that RS and LS set her up, they would not have succeeded if there wasn’t something going on between RS/KS beforehand in order for them to plan this setup to get pictures of KS/RS together. My point is he would not have planned the setup unless something was happening between them already.otherwise he would not have gotten any pics if she did not return his advances. Also, if she truly tried to fight him back then why make an apology and instead let the world know that RS forced himself on her?

    • Guest

      She could be pushing away, not pulling toward.

    • nena

      There were only 3 pics that look like them kissing and in one he is looking right at the camera and in another his hand is in the way I have been in the situation when someone kissed me and I was shocked, and we have no idea if she kissed him back, believe me I didnt but that didnt stop him from doing it 2 more times. And yes It could have been set up even if she never gave him any indication she wanted more then actor/director. Maybe he misunderstood he attraction to him as love not admiration, So he thought he would push the envelope and she didnt respond so he only used pics that supported his story that they were involved. She probably made the apology because Im sure her PR people said you have to because since it was going to be in the news everyone would believe it and if they said “no” people would still believe it cuz its in pics!!! and maybe if the PR people are good they thought to use it to their advantage to get PR for OTR, COSMOPOLIS AND BD2 we were not there!! Plus like has said before she isnt stupid and thought she was safe since it was out in the open

    • Guest

      This is true of her interactions with RP too, there are no pics that show convincingly she invited or really participated in kissing.

    • nena

      at a game a long time ago, she had short hair, Cannes, aft WFE promo. They have said how many times they are private and not going to sell their relationship, I really dont care to see make out in public, a quick peck is one thing but dont care to see people make out. The way they look at each other you cant fake that, id rather see those sweet looks then watch them make out. The looks are for themselves, the make out is for the public, that is selling it big time! “Look at us” just my opinion.

    • Not Sure

      There are about 50 pics that came out. Here’s a link to some pics that to me show more what I am thinking. Sure we really don’t know if RS forced himself on her but since she didn’t deny it and actually apology we are going to have to assume that she was a willing participant. I understand that you don’t want to believe that she would cheat on Rob especially prior to this scandal they seem really happy, cannes, Comic Con etc. so not sure what went wrong. If she was truly a victim of a stunt her recent appearance, i.e. lost weight, depressed, choking up in interviews is more in line with someone who has been going through a breakup and having a hard time dealing with it. Can be a continuation of the PR stunt I suppose. But really as you have stated in previous post I would be mad and insulted that her PR team took me to be that big a fool.

      http://www.tekkaus.com/2012/07/robert-pattinson-dumped-kristen-stewart.html

    • nena

      We still dont know what happened, if he was forcing himself on her the pics we dont see could be in between these, one of the pics looks like he was going to whisper in her ear! Really who knows what he said or did, she may have been afraid he would get mad, IDK And its not that I dont want to believe it I just want the truth. And put yourself in her position, say she did nothing wrong told him no but he kept at it, they get out of the car to go talk by the rail and he comes up behind you, you try to get away but not wanting to hurt his feelings and on and on, you drop him off a few blocks from home, he says you may not really know where you are, anyway you do go home and tell Rob but tell him to just drop it and to not do anything because you have the next movie to do with him directing. A few days later or when ever your PR people call you and says Us weekly says they have pics of her cheating and you tell them no you didnt now I have no ides why they wouldnt put an end to it but because its in pics everyone is going to believe it so the PR people decide to just go with it and try to use it, they hope RS will come clean and say its a joke They have you issue an apology maybe hoping to stop it at that, then all hell breaks loose and you are the bad guy and all this horrible hate and death threats come your way, Rob is with you but you are a reck, you cant eat , sleep all those things that are being said about you because you and RP broke up IDK I can see this this way go watch http://t.co/BDL89x0D

    • Trish

      Bravo! This was the first comment that sounds smarter than the blogs or gossip sites and focuses on the culprit – Rupert Sanders and not only Kristen Stewart. I agree with your post, mainly but I seriously disagree with the Liberty bashing and set up talk. No way this was a set up. Two guilty parties entered in willingly. One was more devious and manipulative than the other looking for cheap thrill and attention, but still two willing parties. Let her admission speak to her part in this instead of making up conspiracy theories. It doesn’t help Kristen or Robert. He’s not stupid. If he watched that ridiculous video, or photos or all the secret calls she must have been making to carry on… he knows what’s up.

      But your first part about Ruperts sleazy role in this is 100% accurate and clear from the start. While I don’t think of him as Roman Polansky or Kristen as a naive 15yr old, like some would have you believe to make Kristen’s role in this less harsh. I do see him as creepy predator, who sought her probably from the beginning. And I believe that Kristen is insecure, seeks attention and is immature. He saw that in her an put his claws in. Its a reason men like this pick her as prey. He found her weakness. And it was Robert he was really trying to show up. He knew what was at stake for Kristen and didn’t care, only saw how he could take her from Robert. She got used. Badly. And I’m sure she’ll learn from this, especially if we stop trying to blame in on everyone else but her making bad choices. Yes, Rupert. I’m familiar with this type of guy. He didn’t pull this with Charlize for a reason. He knew better. He picked someone young and naive, and needy for sexual confirmation. Yuck. And its clear she didn’t see the warning signs. As for Liberty and Rupert scheming together is where you lost me. It wasn’t a big endeavor. They didn’t see the paparazzi. Rupert didn’t want to get caught yet. Because unlike Kristen stated, them not having sex YET! He was looking to reach his end game first. Conquer his prey. Married men don’t have kissing affairs – he wanted to score. Its juvenile to follow the set up angle and unrealistic. She’d been followed for a few weeks, and she was found out. Liberty will benefit only momentarily, but making it out to be a big payday and this was done to help her career, yeah NO! One runway show, and trip to store doesn’t make her career. She was already in modeling for awhile. She needs a job if she wants to support her kids post divorce and she was already bored and Rupert and Kristen provided the perfect jump back from home life. But she’s not looking to be on Real Housewives. That’s beneath her. Her brother is a top music industry exec, she was already going to red carpet events. Do some research people. Her setting this up with kids and no real outlook makes no sense. And more importantly, if anyone on Kristens team thought she was being manipulated or set up and this wasn’t just a cheap fling, she would not have apologized (especially the way she did) as well as there would be lawsuits. Kristen’s rep is worth too much, and this was created by her own doing… her own downfall not Liberty’s.

    • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

      I appreciate your comments and views. It is definately not to be dismissed that she was taken advantaged of. I understand where you get your convictions, like me, it sounds very much like you’ve been there. It’s really nice when you get a coherent, non-violent reply back about your thoughts. You have no idea how much I appreciate your views, especially since they enhance much of my own. I wish there were more bloggers out there that could keep their hostilities out of the conversation so we could all discuss the issues the way they were meant to be discussed. Thank yo so much. You are very kind and considerate with you reply.

  • lizzy

    oh well, this used to be a good place to intelligently discuss the PR stunt puzzle pieces, but looks like the overflow of wacko posters from gossip cop have arrived

    • Jenni

      We can bring intelligent convo back. I just know it!

    • nena

      it could have attracted different people because it is about LS so her supporters found us

    • s

      I just read at Lainey Gossip that RP and KS are indeed back together. BUT that they’re worried how it may affect his career because of the backlash he might get from fan. It’s always something. Very fascinating.

    • Jenni

      So they’re planting the reunion seeds…how many days until BD2?

    • Guest

      If we knew when either KS or RP would be releasing their next movie after BD2, we could predict the next milestone in their “love” life.

    • Jenni

      I think the big romantic reunion will be on the red carpet for BD2. Every time they kiss, a Twilight fan will grown fangs. That’s just my theory though.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      This would be incredible cynicism from both of them. Do you really think they are that far gone?

    • Jenni

      I think they’re all involved in this stunt to garner as much publicity as possible. I can’t think of a better finale! My guess is that details will leak out about them being back together in the weeks before the premiere, then they’ll walk the red carpet hand-in-hand.

      From a professional angle, I know that if they reunite publicly at the premiere when I’m not at the office, I’ll have to come home from wherever I am and write about it.

      If the red carpet is just a regular red carpet, I’ll likely cover it during the next work day. I think many other celebrity bloggers will be in the same boat as me. A grand reunion on the red carpet is the best way to maximize publicity.

    • nena

      If it was done to get the media off their back and to give them a big FU thats one thing, for me any other reason is crap and Im offended. If they got LS and RS to help by it helping their careers as a collateral benefit ok, If they get back together for the BD2 premiere and then break up as was always their intent then im offended. I know it wasnt done to me but as a consumer and a human being its all crap. And any respect I had will be gone and then they deserve all the bad crap. If it was only done to get more at the box office I still think it childish but if as a side they wanted to do as you said above to help their careers at least is a positive and sort of again giving it to the media “look what we can do to you.” But if it was only done to break up a fake relationship then they are just as bad as the media they hate. No one would have cared if it was just done quietly, but to cause all this crap, and maybe gettiing hurt in the process was it worth it? They are no better then the parents of the balloon boy wasting everyones time. If LS and RS set up KS that is horrible and the sanders deserve what ever they get. I dont know why it bothers me,im really not a crazy person! nobody likes being played i couldnt have cared less if they never dated.

    • Guest

      Edward and Bella get a happy ending. Stephenie said she didn’t want to write more to their story because she’d already put them through enough, and she originally only intended the first and the last books.

      Rob and Kristen have done a good job for 5 years. Whether they were or are or will be together, they deserve respect for the entertainment they have given in the form of the Twilight movies. This – whatever it is- now does not take away all the joy and the fun that we’ve had from these movies.

      I feel that Catherine Hardwicke should get a lot more credit for casting the first movie and directing it so well. She chose Rob and Kristen for their parts, and now the movies are almost over.

      We can make sure, at least as far as the Twilight movies go, that there is a happy ending.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes as it turns out Hardwicke did the best of all even with her mistakes. She was not free either as she was under the gun.

    • nena

      I just think it was so not necessary and for people who hate the media to do this to get the media more on their back. If they hate fake then why would they be the biggest fakes of all? People will see through this especially if the have PDA on the red carpet and if they break up after BD2. They don’t seem to be that cynical. They are playing the medias game but not at the media it’s at the fans who all arnt crazy. The fans will put people in seats but not if they figure out they are being played. I’m just tired, not really mad just seems not directed the right way

    • Guest

      The majority of the fans are Twilight fans first, proven in ticket sales. Those that love Rob and Kristen in the Twilight movies love them because they were well cast in those parts, true to the book.

      Ticket sales show that fans of Rob and Kristen, well there just aren’t nearly as many of them. Yet.

    • Guest

      uh oh.

      This line of thought gave me a new theory:
      BD2 director fucked it up and knows it.
      Thinks up evil plan.
      Cahoots with SWATH director to make smokescreen.
      Uses smokescreen to misdirect fans and media to the offscreen lives of the cast, instead of the movie.
      Tabloids/reviewers are so distracted they write about the cast, not the movie.
      Both directors party to bank.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Make lemonade from these lemons. Thanks to you and the way we have muccied this thing up no one will know know and those that think he will have humiliated himself will continue to think that, but the fantasy is gone for the fanatics even if they do get back together again really. They can play this, go back to square 1 and it will be are they or aren’t they all over again. Fun and games. But you did it Jenni. Not sure if everybody knows it but it has been you. Now take this and run with it. You can take over the premiere “tabloid” spot from all of them, including gossip cop.

      I’ll help you by feeding you what I do. I am out to smash the tabloids as payback for Jackie Kennedy as she was dying and for Diana whom they turned into a snuf film, as she lay dying. Yes? A worthy cause? Oh and be careful when you pick up your next copy of USWeekly. It is likely to have purple smears on it. LOL!

    • nena

      who is the he that humiliated himself? RP or RS?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It is supposed that Rob is humiliated. Maybe he is and maybe he isn’t. In the eye of his image as a heart throb he is I guess. Now is that more important to him or is she more important to him? There are many who will always think she cheated on him and he was a wimp for taking her back. Who cares about them.

      Dominique Francon Wynand in Fountainhead makes sure Wynand will be so humiliated he will not stand in her way to divorce him and be with Roark. The next morning she calls the police and reports a valuable ring has been stolen. They come to the cottage to take the report, write down Mrs. Wynand and Roark. the bed is disheveled and it is obvious she has slept with him. So of course the media gets the story and Wynand divorces her which is what she wanted. He does it out of humiliation and she has forced him to feel that way. But he chooses to feel that way.

      I find it very strange to have reached a point where I choose to feel something painful. I know that I don’t have to. This is not a Rand thing to do. Feel pain on purpose.

    • nena

      that is kinda what RP did in Bel Ami, with the young girl at the end, they were in the hotel but got 2 rooms bit everyone thought they slept together so the dad made them get married which was what RP character wanted right?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes. IN the book it was different. They spent a week in the country and he didn’t touch her although she seductively teased him all the time. When he told her they were going back she was very disappointed. she said ,”Oh I’ve loved being married to you.” Darling, huh. It could have been such a nice scene. They fished together, walked around together.

    • nena

      see Im educable!! In the movie he didnt touch he just let people believe what ever they wanted and of course the dads mind went there!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Just like Rupert Sanders has been doing.

    • nena

      yeah nothing went on but the g rated pics—hey lizzy just had a thought look above, what if it was KS and LS that set up RS cuz LS wanted a divorce for some reason. wow interesting

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That is plausible because it is credible. But it is only credible if you have NOT followed Kristen’s career. She has given no indication that she would participate willingly and cynically in this sort of thing. But to those who know little of her it might stick. To me it is not credible. But that’s just me. Now It’s out there, it is credible. And for some reason lizzy is very pro Liberty. Why? IDK. There is nothing in the woman that would make one be a raging fan of hers. Not that I can see.

    • nena

      just maybe LS and RS

    • powerpoes

      http://t.co/BDL89xOD
      Video at Gossip cop . WATCH please

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I’m thinking Liberty and Rupert.

    • lizzy

      I am not pro anyone in this saga nor totally against anyone because none of us know the people nor what really happened. I simply question your excessive opinions and prejudices.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Oh, OK. And yes, I am excessive. Nietzsche: Dancing in chains!

    • nena

      hey did you watch the video? what do you think??

    • JUST NO

      OK i can see your point with this. Because Bel Ami fail at the box office and all of Rob movie that he has coming up are small. Not of Kristen small movie made any money either. Only thing is i thing some one set her up,

    • nena

      Same here, look at http-//tinyurl.com/9fuz2no he is looking right at the camera!

    • lizzy

      But if anyone, please anyone? Just tell me why flameflynet got both the US Weekly photos and the Kristen emerges photos (where we know she had to control the “emerges” photo event), I might think she was not in on it somehow. Anyone?

    • nena

      I know so many loose ends, why did she look so thin and sort of lifeless at TIFF? granted that may be acting. The pic thing is so strange, planned out, we need to so find out how to talk to Flamefly!!!! That is the answer, I dont live anywhere near LA, anyone know anyone who is in that business who wants to get a big scoop?

    • lizzy

      What if Liberty and Kristen set Rupert up? Maybe Liberty and Kristen did get on well – Kristen has been dressing better, posing for photos better – maybe being coached by a professional model? Maybe it’s girl-power!

    • nena

      wow never really thought of that! Could have been strange though if he wanted to go to a hotel!!! Ha interesting thought the papz said they drove a around until HE told her where to park, how would they know HE told her where to park???? were they in the car?? So if it was KS and LS and she went to that street and they planted cameras and KS drove there and if it was only a few blocks from his house wouldnt he not want to go so close to his house/? wow anyone else want to chime in here? So RP would have had to know, KS and LS prob didnt figure the backlash towards KS and thought everyone would hate RS

    • Guest

      No, I think it more likely KS was surprised by his advances, in part because he met her in a public place where she probably felt somewhat protected from sexual advances.

    • JUST NO

      When Kristen and Rob went to Paris fashion week, coming back Kristen was angry when the Paps ask Them if its true he Texting Katy perry. Kristen shouted ” Am sick of this”. Maybe her and RP relationship was done.

    • nena

      she was just sick of the media taking out of context, and making stuff up, neither could be seen alone cux if they were with someone else then the rumors started right away, like now she was talking to James Franco and the media practically have their first baby named and all the crap about Jennifer Lawrence and KS hating each other they never even met until last week. If every time I turned around some one was saying i was secretly attracted to some one and then ask stupid questions like texting I would say I was sick of it also!!! I mean how would they know anyone text him did they see his phone? No friend would tell anything to the media

    • nena
    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I’ve written about this on my blog http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      She is not acting her pain. What you are doing here is perfect. All of these comments are adding to it. They are being read by PR people. When I say I smeared grape jelly on all the US Weeklys on the zine rack in the store they froth. Jesus how many people read that! What if thousands of her fans started doing the same thing. Scared them shitless. Because what if they did. Google will have all this on search engines. Google now owns disqus. Every time anyone searches on any of this Liberty and Rupert are going to come up smeared. It doesn’t matter if they are formally punished or not. All this is credible and they will be punished forever. Their kids will be asked about it forever. The kids will ask their parents about it forever. The consequences are monumental. The law doesn’t have to get in it.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      She may have timed her first outing. Why is that controlling PR? Why wouldn’t she just want to control as much of it as she could. If her team is manufacturing her emergence all that says is that they are earning their money so they must do something to look like what they are doing is important.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I do too.

    • lizzy

      As a dedicated professional, you will just have to barricade yourself in your home at this point so you don’t miss the romantic reunion.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Jenni don’t go there. You can posit as a question, as a speculation, but you need not believe it to do that.

    • Guest

      Jenni, sometimes love is real. Honest.

    • Jenni

      I know! Did you see my post on Miley/Liam today. It’s an ode to real love.

    • Guest

      I did see it! And I can tell from the photo they are going to be together forever!

    • nena

      I dont see why that is love, i mean what are you talking about? and the pic is them walking in gym clothes, am I missing something?? I have seen more loving pics of RP and KS. just saying

    • Jenni

      Just kidding around!

    • nena

      oh god I thought you all lost your minds

    • lizzy

      well we probably have just a bit, but that’s ok:)

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes. But if you have never observed it except on screen you won’t recognize it. It is getting rarer and rarer as we move into simulated reality. Hunger Games when Katniss simulates it and only Sutherland is suspicious.

    • S

      “Every time they kiss, a Twilight fan will grown fangs.” Omg! That has got to to be funniest sh**, I’ve heard in a long time! LMAO.

    • nena

      Every time a kiss sangs a twilight fan grows fangs!! I know sad

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I refuse to believe either one of them is this cynical. Even if they were I would not believe it.

    • nena

      OTR in dec, the other movies havent even started to film yet

    • s

      I asked my crazy Twi fan sister…lol she said 67 days.Lol. On a side note I don’t think those two are gonna last much after that. As much as I believe that people can get past some crazy stuff, I think these 2 will probably break up after a bit after BD2.its like, it’s ALWAYS something with those 2.

    • Jenni

      That’s my prediction. Big reunion for BD2, then quiet break-up after OTR comes out in December. You know a “we tried to make it work, but we couldn’t” statement.

    • s

      IF this is a stunt, and this was done to help their movies, I get it why they did this. But, why would any sane person agree to do this? But I just don’t see the logic in agreeing to “death” basically and to be living my life paranoid. IF they wanted to break up, they could have did it quietly, and just be cordial on the red carpets &during BD2 promos. KS wouldn’t have to be hiding so much now. The world wouldn’t be calling her a homewrecker and trying to ban her from everything (lol). And we wouldn’t have the term “trampire” (lol). The only people who got more than something out of this scandal was RP, LS and RS. Yeah KS got all her movies free publicity. That’s it.

    • nena

      Seei totally agree and I have said this so many times!!! Its overkill for something like this to to break them up!! All they needed to do is act like a couple until after BD2 comes out and a month later just have something in some magazine and then be free to date others the little fan girls and women could have said things on blogs but the little girls and tweens couldnt see their new movies anyway so hopefully the premieres could calm down they could even support each other at red carpets like a normal couple. Move out of LA like other stars have done. No backlash on anyone, they wouldnt have had to say anything to the media just their PR people and just dont answer questions. This cant be it!!!! I just think KS looked thin and sad, i know she is an actress but come on. And I cant believe they would have a fake relationship for 3 years no way!! And If it is then that is inexcusable!!! I just a cant see it.

    • s

      As crazy as it sounds, I really believe that this is true. So KS, must really not give F, what people say about her, if she really participated in this ” stunt” or whatever part of this cheating scandal is the stunt. I guess when you have millions, people don’t care about doing something insanely stupid. At least KS can afford bodyguards.

    • Jenni

      Here’s motivation for this stunt that I wrote in response to a reader email today (so sorry if you’re seeing this twice today!)

      I think they wanted their films to do well in general at the box office so they’re more powerful in Hollywood. The more money your movie makes, the more money you can make AND the more scripts come your way. Producers won’t invest money in actors with no established credits to their name.

      So while Robsten has a fanbase from the Twilight series, it’s very a select demographic that doesn’t lend itself to different kinds of movies. The success of Cosmopolis and On The Road however proves to studios that Robert and Kristen can be box office successes and therefore deserve a chance to make more diverse films. So I see this as a necessary move to advance their careers. These movies had to do well or they might not see too many projects in their post-Twilight days.

      What better way to ensure success than with a publicity stunt?

    • nena

      ok so is it to break up a fake relationship or to further careers? And again where do LS and RS fit in?

    • Jenni

      On one hand, I would say it’s not okay to fake a relationship to further a career. But, so many celebrities do it and it works so aren’t we (all people) slightly responsible for encouraging this. If we gave celebs privacy in their private life, this would be unnecessary.

      Then again if we did that, I wouldn’t have a job.

      And as far as LS and RS, it’s helping both their careers immensely. It’s really a win-win for everyone involved.

    • nena

      i do agree that if the media didnt follow people around it would be better. So who planned it? And again was it to break them up, further career or both?

    • Jenni

      I would say it served both purposes.

    • nena

      Who would do it for 4 years? A few weeks, months but not 4 years

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s not a win/win at all when Kristen looks on the verge of anorexia. This is the way that syndrome starts One of the tipping points. I cannot think it is PR at all when I see her. Nor Rob.

    • nena

      did you look at the video???? Please do and agree it looks like set up by RS with or with out LS

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It does. He would know how to do it too.

    • s

      I got you now. I get it but still think its stupid to use your personal life to better your career. The one thing RP & KS hated. And they said they didn’t want to sell their personal lives. Well they sure did what they hated so much. IMO Seems they are just like the people who blab on and on about their personal lives and who are all on the Red carpets together and stuff. They did this sneaky way, to still appear like they are so private and all about privacy, that they don’t sell their personal lives (themselves). But its the media and fans who “sell” heir personal lives. I got it now. Robsten, definitely know what they are doing, like Ted says.

    • nena

      still think they are as shallow as other stars. And if what Abbysbooks said that if by word of mouth and people come here and read this article and if things happen like Jenni says the fans will see they have been played! It may back fire on them yet but not in the way they wanted. If it was done primarily to break them up we may have given fans a true look at them and IMO they dont come off well

    • x

      SWATH met budget, but fell far short of expectations. Solo Stewart did not deliver the promised numbers.

    • lizzy

      Would you be open to sharing how many degrees of separation there are between you/Liberty, you/Rupert, you/Kristen, you/Robert?

    • Guest

      lol

    • nena

      what that KS and RP did this to break up? Where do LS and RS fit into it then?

    • nena

      that they did stage this just to break up?

    • Guest100

      So are you saying they were going to breakup anyways so why not go out with a bang? I always thought that they would breakup after BD2 b/c they’ve been together for a while and were reaching a new crossroads in their lives.

    • lizzy

      too many

    • nena

      where couldnt find it ??

    • s

      She put it in the post “Jennifer Lawrence & Kristen Stewart at TIFF.”

    • nena

      Look at video http://t.co/BDL89x0D

    • nena

      me??

  • S

    I just want more clues about what’s really going on in this scandal. Fun, witty commentary about it. And all the conspiracy theories? I think some people are WAY OVER THINKING things.

  • powerpoes
    • nena

      So are you saying RP and LS set them up? I dont get the last sentence “Sometimes what seems absurd to most people is the very truth”

    • powerpoes

      Maybe they are all in it ?????

    • lizzy

      Very interesting video! I had read in other places that the trees in background, etc. were off. But your capturing the angles and size comparisons are very compelling evidence of things not being what they seem in those photos- Excellent work.
      Why would Kristen and team allow these photos to live as a lie unless they were in on it? The gain, the endgame? Guess it’s still in play….

    • powerpoes

      someone said a few days ago that RS did say that he wanted to make documentary about celebrety scandel ???

    • nena

      where and who said it

    • lizzy

      I said it on a post here awhile ago on crushable in reply to one of Jenni’s posts on an earlier article – it was something I had picked up somewhere along the way. I think I’ve also seen it since mentioned in someone’s twit longer.

    • powerpoes

      Nobody important . In the beginning when this all started some fans of Ks were saying that.

    • nena

      thank you for posting this !!!!

    • nena

      Thank you for posting this here,

    • x

      Untrue rumor. Perez Hilton 7/25.

    • nena

      seriously do you know them, im totally serious!! Did you look at the video, what do you think?

    • lizzy

      Interesting that you have the specific date it posted on PH. Do you track all of this type of information for a living/PR related, as part of an artistic project, or as part of a potential lawsuit?

    • lizzy

      Anything you’d like us to know that the masses have twisted?

    • Jenni

      Just watched the video and while it’s all very interesting, Kristen’s immediate apology still doesn’t fit in to the theory that this is a set-up by RS. Remember she apologized before Us Weekly even hit stands. So why would she confess to such a relationship-devastating set-up she didn’t know was happening?
      Does RS have major blackmail on her? If so, are we taking this conspiracy too far?

    • nena

      I dont know maybe her PR people told her to do it, maybe they thought RS would down play it big time and then he didnt, just issued his own apology. May he told her that once the pics were out that no one wouldnt believe her that she wasnt in it 100% and everyone believes what they see, right? Maybe he told her that he was going to print the ones that looked like she was responding not the ones where she slapped him and pulled away. We have no idea what was said in the car, they are the only ones that look more intimate. and one looks like he is whispering in her ear and one has him looking at the camera Maybe he told her that she would be ruined in HW after this and that he had his kids to think about, she didnt want to hurt them did she, maybe he said If you sleep with me I wont print any of them maybe she did and he taped that and then he released the pics anyway Blackmail. IDK she just looks so much like she is suffering. That video is compelling, he has different shoes, no polish on on pic, where does the hat go in some pics, her shoes are red but in some by the fence they look different and if you look real close when they are pitting up the pics with her leg some of the legs look thinner is there a way to get it verrified some one go back to side and take pics of the rail and try to prove it correct? maybe she was apologising for just being dumb enough to be in that position

    • Jenni

      I would want someone I personally know to go there and take photos with scale. I think if the scale portrayed in the video’s correct, then they’re faked.

    • Guest

      My first thought when I first saw the photos by the rail was the comparative body sizes were off, that’s why I suspect the apology was not really KS.

    • nena

      Good point we never could find out and nothing else from pr peeps

    • nena

      so who do you know? I live no where near California!!! Have some one take a computer with them and take pics of the rail and stand in the road and take pics just like in the video

    • lizzy

      There’s was a girl on twitter who posted issues on the photos (she worked at a photo store or something of that nature) awhile ago and they went into a big discussion on types of lenses, etc – while they hadn’t gone there in person they did say the trees in the photos were off and that something about a cropped ear or hand in wrong place? So the thought that these were doctored has been floating out there for awhile. If I lived near there I’d go take measurements in a heartbeat!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      The Rashomon Effect!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Something very minor could have happened that is not connected with this video. They may be two separate things. Just because they are in the same street with her and Rupert ?

    • nena

      such as??

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      IDK. Maybe it’s not really Kristen in the pics. Or not all of them. Gee Nena IDK any more than you do now. But that’s a good thing. It means no one knows anything. But what has happened is that people have had their eyes opened about making quick judgments. This is one of the best things. Even Jenni has had to change her prior speculation and revise it. How can that be bad.

    • Guest

      Yes, a good day for the peoples.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s like the JFK conspiracy hypotheses. The book warehouse or the grassy knoll? Oswald or ???Mafia, Cubans etc. Mailer does an excellent job in his analysis. What if two separate entities, Oswald being one, were both to try to assassinate Kennedy? It is not necessary that they even know that each was planning this, and that the other also fired. What was linked may not be linked at all. Same with these pics. What if some were photoshopped and others were just made to look incriminating. She doesn’t or didn’t necessarily have to know about all of them on the day it happened, just the time she was with him. Suppose her face is photoshopped in some of them. IDK but it could be, couldn’t it?

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      please tell me where is this video.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Robstendesdenuestros
      @Robstendesde That should get you there. This is the twitter not the tumblr. Awesome.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You are trying to fit it together logically, that is, in the classical Hegelian dialectic Dominating Discourse. Sorry to sound so so so IDK. This thing is no longer playing out in that arena. We have always been in simulated reality with these two, and now it is clear, or should be, to everyone. It really doesn’t matter if the video and the apology don’t add u to you. They are not connected in that way anyway. This is a Virtual Reality Game now and the rules have changed. I was hoping we could make this happen so I suported anyone who was sliding in that direction. You really started in Jenni and sometimes people don’t know the full extent of what they start. This is Zizek and here he is at Occupy: http://guerrillablog2.blogspot.com/2012/03/slavoj-zizek-speaks-at-occupy-wall.html?zx=9760c509bc73d48a This is the major philosopher right now. Sophie Fiennes (sister of the brothers) just showed a film she made of him at TIFF He was there for Q&A and I was praying that Kristen would go. He would have run down the whole thing for her as the media does the same to him, only he has them by their tail, no pun intended. http://moviesandfilm.blogspot.com/2012/09/zizek-perverts-guide-to-ideology-zizek.html?zx=d14f0f4d70593ad0

      No we are not taking this conspiracy to far. Not far enough. We need to keep going. The video is so credible that no one will ever do anything but laugh at these paper tabloids now. At least those in the know. The internet is faster, and everyone wants fast and faster. Just like the conversation about zepto seconds in Cosmopolis between Packer and Vija Kinski. The perception of time has changed. There is no longer time to think in cause and effect, only time for events which are unpredictable and come from nowhere. LIke 9-11. And then the world shifts.

    • lizzy

      Hey Jenni-
      No, I think this goes back to our posts weeks ago where we discussed the possiblity of a documentary being made on scandals when we were trying to dissect who would gain what and why put everyone through it.
      Guess we’ll know soon enough one way or the other.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      C’mon. None of us knew this until we saw this video. I don’t get the impression rob or Kristen’s people are the brightest bulbs in the box. Would they know this. ? Awesome.

    • nena

      any one know the email for KS or RP manager?

    • lizzy

      sorry, that is not true – if you were on twitter there were numerous discussions by a select few about the photo discrepencies and a additionallly the possiblity of him making a documentary on scandals- I know you think you are quite brilliant, but really, get over it.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      In the classical dialectical Dominating Discourse what you said is inevitable. The foundational structure of a Discourse in the dialectic has at its root the oppositional template (see Foucault The Order of Things). So of course. What else is new. Oh, I know, the sun came up today, that’s what’s new.

      It doesn’t matter. It’s out there. It’s credible. That’s all anything is in simulated reality: credible. Get over true and false. True and false are oppositions belonging to the classical dialectical DD. It’s over. It’s linear, progressive, historical. Our world is discontinuous, event driven. Consequences, not cause and effect as in linear mode. Time is moving too fast for linear. It has spun out of that grid. Kiss it good bye or perish.

    • powerpoes

      this is a video someone put at gossip cop. What do you think ??
      You can see clearly that in some picture it,s not Kristen . Also the Nailpolish .
      i don,t understand why Kristen isn,t defending herself . I’m from Holland : Bad English sorry

    • nena

      OMG so much is different, her shoes are red walking to rail and white or blue at rail, where does her hat go? who put it on GC?

    • powerpoes

      I don,t know . But there is a picture in the car , where you can see the mirror inside the car instead of being outside

    • nena

      where in this video?

    • powerpoes

      maybe she only kissed him and the rest was faked to make it look bad .
      Or maybe they are blackmailing her with something else . I don’t know. I<ts so strange. Most of the pictures are faked

    • nena

      what does the last part mean

    • powerpoes

      most of the pictures are fake . I think,

    • nena

      it is so strange, if its all real!!!!!

    • powerpoes

      what do you think is it a set up. Or is KS and RP in it ??????? Documentary maybe ?????

    • nena

      I have no idea, someone named m posted it on CG I have sent this to others to look at

    • nena

      where did you see it on GC?

    • powerpoes

      Kristen stewart and James Franco flirting september 11 2012
      You must look into the oldest post from today

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Anything she says will just be used against her. Rob needs to buy airtime and just put this on. Say nothing. Buy the movie. If someone gets paid for this others will start doing it. The tabloids can’t compete. Sure it can be used for all sorts of things, but the trick is that no one will believe anything anymore.

    • nena

      see if you can follow it better, get your nerdy (your words not mine) BF to help

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He’s mad at me right now because all my time has been going into this and worrying about my comments. He’s being a prick so he can be a prick all by himself.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      When everything is lies, the truth is a weapon. – Bale, The Dark Knight Rises

    • nena

      THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Ah but what is the truth? A concept we need to take Nietzsche’s hammer to.

    • nena

      I totally forgot what I read on him, I just cant believe whoever made this didnt do something with , but I guess it was on GC, you tube and Robsten I think but wow I guess surfing the net does doit

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I clicked on something and went to their twitter site. I replied and got sucked into a twitter account to reply. That video is going viral from all the tweets. Liberty and Rupert are dead in the water.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It is spinning out of control as we speak. No need for us now as it is in other hands. It just needed attention, focus, excitement, seduction and it was there. I was hoping this would happen from the beginning but didn’t really know if it would. But I worked so hard to make it happen and so did you and a lot of others. all we had to do was push it along some and once it got rolling it had a life of its own. I am very sleepy now. And I feel really good about this. That video is going viral. Just you wait Henry Higgins, just you wait! My dearest friend in Bosnis will send it through Eastern Europe. It comes from Spain (?) well it’s in Spanish anyway. It leaves all the criticism the factions just standing there peeing in the rain. I love it! Chaos theory.

    • nena

      How do we get this verified!!!!!!

    • powerpoes

      ???????

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      What’s to verify. Is it credible? Hell yes.

    • nena

      but in court or anything it would have to be above reproach for KS I wonder if they even know someone did this?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Unbelievable. If I were Rob I would buy some TV time on all the stations and just play that video.

    • nena

      finally you watched it!! The only thing that Jenni and I talked about is RS may be blackmailing her for some reason! I could only think of maybe he said he wouldnt sell them if she would sleep with him, so she did and he taped that and sold the pics anyway, would Rob be mad at her for that? And someone said maybe the apology never even came from her maybe she and her people never said anything. I would be so upset if it were me even if she has always has rob’s support and never broke up what do u think im going crazy this was posted on GC and I kept following and someone Kristenpattinson513 I think put it on you tube but I cant get who made it the website is in spanish can your hacker guys look at it? we need someone in LA to go measure stuff at the site and take pics, as jenni said it has to be someone reliable

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I pasted the link in my browser and went directly to the site. It starts out with that pic with Kristen, Sanders, And Chris in front of the doors. I saw that pic before but Chris had been removed. I thought it looked edgy, like they didn’t want their pic taken. As if it were insinuating there was something between the two of them. I’d like to know who removed Chris and why. Jenni’s idea is credible. This is the problem with simulated reality. there is no truth or false anymore and we are seeing it played out now in this incident. It is so mucked up no one could ever know anything. If I had been at that wall and seen those pics I might say, he wasn’t that close to my ass, I know he wasn’t. and my bf might say, yes he was look at it and then I would get confused myself. The Rashomon Effect.

      It is dizzying because that’s what happens in simulated reality. It spirals out of control. It circulates like the numbers on Eric Packer’s screen, like the sex he has, like information. We have tons of information and no knowing. the only compass point pointing north is our own grounding. And for most it keeps shifting with more and more stuff coming in. This isn’t going to stop now. It’s gone too far. I think we did it. By god I think we did it.

      We should get 3 minutes of cable TV time and show it again and again. I used to know someone who had cable time to barter. It could be shown on Oprah. She hates the tabloids. Those paper zines cannot come close to competing with this stuff now. crushable just became big time I think. Gossip Cop is competing with them now with this video. All our work paid off eh.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That sleeping with the enemy takes place in Mallon’s novel Two Moons. A beautiful story. He is blackmailing her by holding something her lover needs in NY customs and the Senator controls the Custom House.

      Fantasy mother at adifferentforest said one had to be done on her mini cooper because she says there is no way that kissing scene took place in her mini cooper. No room.

    • Guest

      Is this on Twitter yet?

    • Guest

      Yes, I found it by searching for the name that put it on youtube, KristenPattinson513.

    • Guest

      http://twitter.com/Robstendesde

      that’s the twitter account, they are going after the tabloids

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Went there and added to the tweets so twitter got me at last.

    • Guest

      Me too.

    • nena

      how do you get followers, is it like on facebook

    • Guest

      I don’t know, I’m new at twitter and facebook really. On Twitter I think you just follow people and sometimes they follow you back. Once in a while someone decides to follow you first. On facebook it starts with friends and grows I think.

    • nena

      well I put it on mine but dont have hardly anyone following

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Superlative work gigi5. Now if you just knew how to get all my comments back on my twi irruption site…..

    • Guest

      I’ll see if I can find it again.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I’ll start crossing my fingers and tie them together while I sleep tonight. Thanks 400 million times. Kiss kiss.

    • nena

      did what I gave you help at all?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Nah. Not at all. You silly girl of course. Today it all broke and we took no prisoners.

    • nena

      I dont want to go to sleep, I just keep imagining the possibilities

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I want to tell you you were magnificent. You were able to dialogue with lizzy when I could not. I watched your dialogue with her and was awed. You would make a great therapist. Don’t bother with school and credentials, just set up as a consultant and see people.

      I have been analyzing how it went down in my head. Now I see the patterned structure, the structural pattern. You were one of the keys. More later.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      There are a lot of them for sure.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I told you in another comment. I couldn’t have done it without your help along with others. The world was willing it.

    • nena

      you posted this and I contacted jenni and others here and now its going crazy everyones picking it up!!!!! go to Jenni’s other article ” video provides proof that kristen stewart cheating photos are fake

  • nena

    Im watching 102 min that changed America, when we have had such horrible things happen it just seems why do we have stupid crap like this scandal or what ever this is happen, cant people treat each other the way they want to be treated, sorry but I used to live in NYC, so I hate when 9/11 anniversary happens

  • Guest

    I just got a “going viral” notice when I pulled up this site.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yeah! Good work!

  • powerpoes
    • lizzy

      Well, when this all started people found all sorts of photos that made it appear they were warm and looked at each other adoringly, so you can always find photos to support whatever theory is being floated.
      This is the other possibility – and those that have been following Jenni’s articles on this for weeks and weeks along with me have seen this from me before but until it is disproved I still think it’s a very valid possibility:
      Famefly had control of both the US Weekly and the Kristen emerges photo – to believe she would allow them to have her “emerges” photos if they were the enemy that sold the photos to US Weekly is not realistic to me. In an older forum, I had linked to an article about how closely aligned FameFly directors Simon Bridger and Danny Hayward were with the late Jade Goody, how they became her PR people, best men had her wedding, godfather to her child, created a book in memory of her with proceeds going to cancer fund, etc. Here’s the article:
      http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2355293/Jades-life-in-picture-album-for-her-boys.html
      And the character of these men at FameFly made me wonder about where the $ went for photos sold to US Weekly & PopSugar and if it supported the theory of the 4 key players being in cohoots to bust the tabloids on how BS it all is. Keep in mind how much KS and RP hate the tabloids and what they’ve done to their lives.
      I guess we will know one way or the other how this all plays out.

    • powerpoes

      yesterday someone at GC (an insider ??) told a story about KS been having a hard time because her father has have surgery (lung cancer ) . Also the reason they KS and RP quit smoking .

    • lizzy

      It could be the biggest baddest episode of Punk’d and we are all being punk’d. One giant middle finger to the tabloids.

    • powerpoes

      Yes . I hope so .
      So sad . always like KS. I have a dauther the same age .

  • Two Snaps

    Crushable, you can hate on her all you want but as the saying goes “Don’t hate the player, Hate the game”… Same goes true for Kristen, she’s definitely playing games with all the sympathy bloggers, crazy fans and media with Robs clothes. So, Hate on Liberty for what. So what she went to a fashion show, wore a tee shirt and posted a eagle on her blog. Really, that’s showing them. NOT. Give her her 15min… and she’ll be forgotten but now you’ve got us talking about her. She’s no Brandi Granville, so I applaud Mrs. Liberty. She hasn’t opened her mouth regarding the affair and its still got you guys making her out to be the uni-bomber without a shred of evidence. But with Kstew picks its all fake and conspiracy. You guys would never make it in the FBI. She’s been in fashion before Kristen could spell Balengiaca, probably still wearing her brothers clothes while this women made a name for herself in Fashion to some degree and may need to pay her bills soon so, let her work. Ask Fantasia how fun it is to deal with a woman scorned, the husbands wife she slept with sued her and ran her mouth to the press under “Not coveting your neighbors spouse”. So again, you’re reading her for a runway show and a teeshirt and saying she never left the house. Girlfriend in my book is playing it cool and Kristen should be more than happy. Wise up, Crushable. Tricks are for kids. I thougtht smarter of you.

  • Sue

    So much of hatred for Liberty Ross- WHY? Because she is NOT your typical cheated wife. She has refused to hide. She is getting on with her life. Liberty is a stunning, tastefully elegant woman. She doesn’t need to prove her “beauty” to anyone. I am shocked that people have been brainwashed into hating her. I am so glad I DO have a brain. I can smell that bulldust being propagated by KS PR team about Liberty Ross. Yes good people good PR team hey? Taking the focus of the homewrecker and trying to “blame” the innocent wife. Remember KS already cheated twice. She WILL do it again. Homewrecker status doesn’t have a specific age, so 22 doesn’t matter. All the haters of Liberty Ross take a look at THOSE pics again: KS is sticking her ass out onto RS crotch! KS seems to be grinding into RS and vice versa. Let’s not forget the other very intimate pic – KS has her private region Locked into his. BOTH of their lower body parts were fused. A pics says a million words. Damn right!!! Conspiracy Theory? YES AGAINST LIBERTY ROSS!!! Stop the propaganda against LS. Leave her alone. Allow her her right to carry on her life.

    Whether Liberty ran out to buy milk, do her nails, or enjoyed a stroll in the park should NOT be anyones business. MOST of the times she was at home. What do you haters want? That she hides away from life? That she doesn’t get her life back? That she must keep out of sight so that KS and her media thugs misinform the world??? LS attended Lawless as well as her brother. Her brother was involved in That movie. Why should she Not attend and spend quality time with people she knows?

    Liberty Ross has NOT said anything about KS having sex with her husband. In fact she took the high road. KS was trying to do quick damage control because she was caught doing a married man. Liberty is a truly remarkable person. That a**hole husband of hers has NOT had the decency to protect his wife from the haters. In fact that good man that he is is happy that himself and his lover, KS are off peoples radar. What a Man!!! NOT!!!

    So yes KS has been slinking back into the limelight and the world welcomes her. After all she makes millions for stakeholders and well, a tart does bring in more money anyways instead of a boring wife. KS and her PR team have played the media and they have the media where they want them. You see, money can buy anything, even morals and one sided reporting.

    Liberty Ross is an icon. She is flawless. She is pure . She is magic. NOT on screen BUT in real life.

    Snow white? Hell no, KS has proven to be more like POISEN IVY.

    Hey let’s all wait anxiously for the Twi Circus to start. Its slowly building up and with such great PR work being done, KS team is likely to propell her to greater heights. You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time. KS is sitting pretty and smug right now. And all you people allow her to get away with it. Let the TwiCircus begin!!!

  • http://twitter.com/THEEAnnaWintour Thee Anna Wintour

    No. You are. You’re constant bitching about Liberty screams unbiast reporting and you’re always trying to save Stewart as if she has grace or talent. Liberty was a knock out as a supermodel and if she benefits from her husbands affaire, good for her- that’s Hollywood.

  • Abigail Nelson

    Because she is just so amazing.. So beautiful.