• Fri, Sep 7 2012

Is Kristen Stewart Talking About Rob Pattinson Or Rupert Sanders In This Strange Quote?

Kristen Stewart Vogue UK quote lick my armpits boyfriend Robert Pattinson Rupert SandersKristen Stewart‘s Vogue UK cover comes out today, timed perfectly with the premiere of her film On the Road at the Toronto International Film Festival and the newest Breaking Dawn teaser released at last night’s VMAs. It’s all like clockwork, including the latest controversy over a K. Stew quote that possibly, potentially, probably is about her love triangle with longtime boyfriend/co-star Robert Pattinson and sordid secret lover/director Rupert Sanders.

Last night this quote started going around on Tumblr, especially as Robsten fans were eagerly watching the VMAs to see how Rob was holding up. Bear in mind that this interview took place several weeks ago before those photos of Kristen and Rupert canoodling got released. Which makes it even more head-scratching, because pre-scandal Kristen was notoriously tight-lipped about her relationship. But here’s what she said:

“My God, I’m so in love with my boyfriend,” she suddenly confided, squeezing her fists and stiffening that little body with anticipation. “I wish he was here now. I think I want to have his babies.”

Have I heard her right? Wasn’t her “boyfriend” the one thing she never talked about? To anyone? And yet here we were. “God, I miss him,” she said, raking her hair back and exhaling a plume of smoke. “I love the way he smells. And him me. Like, he loves to lick under my armpits. I don’t get this obsession with washing the smell off. That smell of someone you love. Don’t you think it’s the whole point?”

Even as they reblogged it, Robsten fans were skeptical that this was legitimate. Kristen wouldn’t even acknowledge that she and Rob were dating, and suddenly she’s opening up to some reporter about loving his body odor and wanting to pop out greasy-haired babies? By the same token, that’s why it struck us as so weird when the cheating scandal broke and Kristen released that “I love him, I love him” statement to People. Sure, it got frustrating when it was so obvious that she and Rob were dating and neither would confirm it… but this is even more out-of-character.

Of course, some people have pointed out that in this entire passage Kristen never actually says Rob’s name. According to fan @real_pr_pro, the interviewer put the quote in context by saying that Kristen had just come off the Australian leg of her Snow White and the Huntsman press tour before meeting with Vogue in Paris—which makes a good argument that the “boyfriend” she’s suddenly so loose-lipped about is actually Sanders. However, this same fan argues that Kristen had just attended a wedding with Rob, and attendees had divulged that she had indeed been talking about children in such a romantic environment.

Regardless, something changed. Kristen’s sudden candor had to have been some sort of preparation for this scandal to break, whether you believe that she made a mistake cheating with Sanders, or that she was truly in love with her director, or that this is all a PR stunt but she had to set up a more emotional Kristen so fans would believe her when she released that statement and walked around wearing Rob’s clothes. It’s incredibly calculated. I’m interested in getting my hands on a copy of Vogue UK so I can see just how far down the rabbit hole all this planning goes.

Photo: Vogue UK

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  • Audrey

    Good article!!
    What do you think about the cheating scandal in air 20/20 in abc??

    • Jenni

      Just saw that! Ridiculous! The name of the segment is apparently “The camera doesn’t lie.” So yeah…you can guess how I feel about that.

    • Nena

      just read a article from the Daily News Analysis this author goes on to say that Kristen claims that ” the constant media interest in their relationship was nuts” and how the media is always saying things like is she fashionable or not, am i going out with my bf or not. So it would seem if the author read the whole article then he/she would not have been able to do the story!!! Because when this was done there was not a RP and KS and her only bf would be RP as far as the whole world knew. So are we still on a PR stunt? I still am, to many subtle hints that I think are telling us stuff

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      uumm you are right. Kristen was talking about Rob in this interview don’t you think? maybe she just suddenly felt like sharing this info. She known to be impulsive AND maybe she was just getting much more comfortable with the world knowing about her and Rob.

    • nena

      I dont think it could be RS at all. Has to be RP. So given that she just didnt decide to throw it all away??? Either the set up was by all 4 or maybe RS and he caught her off guard. I did like the link in the artic;e

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      which link?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If nena would register all would be easier. I think she means the vogue armpit one. Kristen is putting on the interviewer.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I guess Jenni is saying that the quote of acknowledging Rob to the reporter is SO very out of character for Kristen–that it must mean something is really going on in her life–like an infatuation with Rupert. and the fact again–Kristen was coming off of the SWATH promotion–with Rupert and cast-when she spoke with reporter. And I think Jenni agrees with reporter that is where attraction started to get going-on promotion tour.

    • Jenni

      Actually Natalie wrote this article! So anything said is what she thinks!

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Oh I am sorry–OK Natalie which man do you think!

    • nena

      it could have, who knows But I dont understand why would she say something about Rob if an infatuation with ick (Sorry i dont like him) was going on in her life?? doesnt make sense.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Rupert enabled her assertion. He did this for his wife also when she was 18 and supported her career all through their marriage. He is very good at this. Look http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-studentteacher-relationship-on-swath.html Kristen hasn’t looked like she does halfway down at the promotion interview since before Twilight.

      She feels CONFIDENT, assertive and able to vent her aggression in a socially accepted way. So she steps out of character in this interview, departs from her standard avoidance of the subject of Rob, and talks about him to excess. It is over the top, what she says, way over the top. So much over the top that it isn’t true. Christa the interviewer is being played. She even wonders if she is. That’s how stupid she is, she wonders. She doesn’t get the joke.

      This is not about attraction for Rupert. She has been attracted to him since she met him in New Orleans and signed with him. She admires his proficiency and who wouldn’t. He makes Cronenberg’s Cosmopolis look like a tekkie hack job. Sanders may not have the material of a Don DeLillo novel, but it is for sure, if he had, he would have made a far better film out of it than the David did.

    • nena

      so are you saying because RS has given her confidence she is able to talk about her love for RP? But because KS is so confident she is able to joke with the interviewer? I agree that she has an attraction to RS as teacher, mentor, helper, friend. Is this part of the stunt, still playing with the media she hates, or maybe a little drunk,tired,missing RP?? What do you mean by vent her aggression, towards who?
      I still think you sometimes place your anger over DC on to RP, he cant help who was signed on to direct!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes that is what I am saying. He enabled her to be more confident. But now you see the problem with a person in your life doing that. It gives them a certain dominance over you. And when that is removed you feel on shaky ground. Kristen is on her own now. She was before Twilight, but she has gotten used to being with Rob, and she got sued to Sanders direction on set, and feeling confident. It is very intoxicating to feel that power and she said so in her Little White Lies interview. She has lost it for the moment, but it was enabled by someone else. And these someone elses wanted something in return. This is the advantage of the analytic dyad. They do not want something from you except that you pay them regularly. If you don’t, that problem is brought into the analytic hour until it is resolved. It begins by forgetting the checkbook, asking for a delay until next week, etc. but these communications cannot be taken at face value. They must be addressed immediately and nothing else goes forward until the $ question is resolved. We live in a world where $ permeates every part of our life. So it must be brought into the analytic hour as soon as it announces itself. And it always does.

      And yes maybe her guard is down and she is tired and her normal defenses are not in place.

      Yes I criticize David Cronenberg harshly because I think he deserves it. He is 69 years old now. It does spill over on Rob because Rob has spent time idolizing him, revering his as a genius filmmaker. Don’t you think Cronenberg is flattered by this boy love in reverse. And now he has?was smitten with Rob. You can see in the film. the film says it is to be a departure for Rob’s pretty boy role in Twilight. That’s what is said. That is the “floating sign”(all those words) manufactured by the media over the film. When you see the film you see it is just another use of Rob’s face as a “prop” as “porno” (his face has become a fetish object now) in the limo. Only Cronenberg is much more sophisticated about this than Ormerod and Donnellan (Bel Ami) or Lawrence (Water for Elephants). And Cronenberg is far far more cynical and perverse about this. He has done it with Viggo but Viggo is so damn good he can’t get away with it. He did it with Spader.
      The sex scene in Cosmopolis with Binoche is rauncy but more funny than anything. And totally a departure of their realationship in DeLillo’s Cosmopolis. The graphic sex scene with Kendra, his body guard, is inauthentic and is used solely for soft porn effects. and interestingly enough it is with a woman of color. It is OK for a woman of color to be depicted graphically doing sex, but the premiere actress, Juliette Binoche cannot be as she wouldn’t do it just as a “sex prop” in a film. She is too smart and assured for that. MacKenzie is not, so she does it. And so does Rob. It is embarassing the way he does it. Way out of character. Far from how DeLillo wrote that scene.

      There’s more but not now and not here.

    • nena

      I so agree, having a sex scene in a movie just for a sex scene is crazy and I wouldnt do it. If it is in the book or necessary to thetelling of the storyis different. Like in OTR they talk about trying a three some but Sams character cant in the end, I dont remember the hand jobs in the car, will have to read it again. In the begining of your post were u talking about KS and RS? Him wanting something from her as payment? Like he wanted her to pay him with sex once or he wanted her for a relationship like a mistress or next wife? When KS made the armpit interview it was after the shooting and at the end of promos, are u saying she was feeling lost then, not as confident then? Some girl wrote on a earlier article (only a few posts) about RS, she really ripped him a new one!! I do wonder if it was set up by RS to get her, It wouldnt surprise me if he wanted her and his wife, and had to scramble to do something since KS made the appolgy, which maybe she thought was the only thing to do and maybe thought he would be a man a say he came on to her

    • lizzy

      If we believe that this has been all a PR stunt, long-planned in advance with key “sound-bites” planted in interviews long before the actual day of RS & KS photos, then how can we not believe that original photos that set this off were part of this stunt– the “heartache & betrayal” leading to November public “romantic reconcilation” & forgiveness. So much free advertising for key players, so much $$$, added fame for unknown scorned wife. And a maturing of the KS public persona to distance her from “Bella” and teen twihards. There have been a few PR professionals who have posted previously here, wish they were around for some additional insight about the studios, etc..
      We can read any vibes and nuances into photos, but that is tainted by our own individual beliefs and assumptions. And let’s not forget how G-rated they were – what did Jenni say once, it could have been included in the movie “Cars”.
      They are all just players on a stage and the public is being played. And while it’s never been mentioned that I’ve seen, what do we really know about the true relationship of Liberty & Kristen. If you’ve ever looked at L’s portfolio, she definitely comes off as pretty edgy and her family background is quite interesting. We don’t really know what happened that day or who came up with the plan, but there were too many things that occurred in a very fast and planned way in reaction to the release of the photos that bring it all into question.
      And yeah, me and my fameflynet objection. Please, what are the odds that the photo agency that sold the original photos also obtained the very brief, very controlled photos of K in crop top weeks later.

    • nena

      some girl posted a long post on the article “Liberty Ross forgives Rupert Sanders for Kristen Stewart affair” her name is Robin Van Dam read it she doesnt paint a pretty pic of RS. Dont know if she knows him

    • lizzy

      Anybody can make up a name and say anything – putting it in print doesn’t make it a fact or make her real or make it true. Does she say how she knows him, does she name names, does she say where she met him, supply dates, verificable facts, etc. That I would read and begin to believe. How do we know she’s not just a crazed Kristen fan? What differentiates her from a “source” or a storyteller?

    • nena

      oh I know, I was just saying she really lit onto him

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      There is always a transaction in a relationship, an exchange. You just may not know what it is until later, and you may never know. Sanders could easily have read her wrong. I can’t tell you how many times that happened to me. You see how open and young her face is with Sanders in that interview pic. Why she is about 13 years old in it! Men find that very erotic, especially older ones. Baudrillard in his book on seduction describes the crucial response from the woman. : A weakness, a sign that she might give in. I do see that ambivalence in those pictures. But that is just MY reading. An object does not exist until and unless it is observed. these fangirls have observed pics of them in detail for 4 years. they are experts at the literal and none of them have the perception vanquish13 has in his article about Kristen. She was making a secret joke about the armpit for fans. But they are so angry at her they have repressed all their love for her and all the adorable things tht happened between them in interviews and public appearances. When you turn on hate, repression follows, and your memory goes into the dark hole. I just can’t put it together right now because I have lost all those thousands of comments on twilight irruption and can’t get tek to help me.

    • nena

      which interview pic are you talking about? and ambivalence pics? Who is vanquish 13? you forget I really only read google stuff on them. Why was it a secret joke had something else been said before that they should have gotten? I a sorry about your stuff,worse then loosing your luggage

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You are so funny, making me laugh about luggage. The promotion interview on SWATH with Sanders I liked you to on y blog post. It is the one about teachers and students. Halfway down you see Stewart as she must have looked when she was thrilled and 13.

      The “weakness” displayed is in the ‘SCANDAL pics. Just an indicision. Hey perhaps he told her he was in love with her, would divorce his wife for her, and she couldn’t just put him down, could she. She would have had to say no, but comfort him at the same time. Suppose she has told him Rob doesn’t seem to love her the way he sued to since he worked with Cronenberg. And she is unhappy and he is comforting her. Who knows. Who can ever know. When it happened to me, and I owed him so very much, so very much, I said to myself, “If he wants it this much I will.” He was married with children, I was not. We were really tight friends. Much more so that Kristen and Sanders, over a much longer time period.

      The secret joke is the armpit comment. I’ll get there. I’m just distraught about what to do about the comments.

    • nena

      It is too confusing with too many articles!!! is sued used to? I think she was attracted to him prob on a few levels but never wanted anything but friendship or teacher/director. I am so mad at 20/20 for continuing the crap in the media, why dont they see what they do, or the harm? How do we raise such amoral people? We as a society are much worse then when Noah built the arch. I am sad

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      There’s a bumper sticker: Amateurs built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic

      Now you are getting there. Hooray. 20/20 is a cynical, amoral TV show passing itself off as news. Since it did this it is announcing that they are desperate to get our attention. So they will dirty themselves all up to get it. Occasionally I am somewhere where I see TV and they all look like hacks on it.

      Now when you move into Foucault the grid of the system will become real to you. You will see it everywhere along with the Dominating discourse. You have come a really long way these past few weeks. I mean it. To feel the outrage and rage against them just makes them stronger. A strategy is required and that is where Zizek comes in.

      Yes. We talk about progression and we see the decline of humanity. It is a veridical perception. An object does not exist until and unless it is observed. – William Burroughs

      It is not we who are raising amoral people, it is the grid of the system that makes it impossible to do anything else. This is the meaning of Occupy. And Rob let Cronenberg use him to sell Occupy down the river. His age peer group and everyone associated or sympathetic to Occupy will never forgive him no matter how many cancer charities he goes to. He doesn’t get it and none of his advisers get it.

    • nena

      Hey thanks, i put that Ark thing as my status on facebook!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I love it. Great.

    • nena

      Iam so mad I had reply but somehow it didnt post, I agree that sex in a movie just for the sake of a sex scene is stupid. I itis in the book or needed for telling the story,ok. So are you saying that RS wanted something from KS, payment as you said like in sex he wanted her bodyas payment? Some wrote on another article about RS she really ripped him a nw one. As this goes on I can see it being set up by RS. Maybe he wanted KS andhis wife,so set her up seduced her and maybe KS didnt want it and so RS has to scramble since the next day KS gives the appolgy so he had to also. May she thought he would be a man and say he did it. What do you mean my analytical dyad or hour, I looked it updint get a good defination.

    • northGAgirl

      I think it’s hysterical that this interview is now referred to the “vogue armpit” interview…i hope the author is loving that.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I for one am not freaking at that “armpit” quote–I mean it IS true when you are in love with someone, is what Kristen is saying. And yes it has a parallel in the Twilight series with the scent of Bella and all that.

    • northGAgirl

      Oh no, I’m not freaking out…just think this journalist has got to be shaking her head Sauk g “that’s what they took from the article” …I’m sure she didn’t want to be known as theinterview “where Kristen Stewart told us all about armpits”. That was all…just kidding around.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      oh, I know you are not! I am just saying that some people probably think that what Kristen said about armpits etc. is “disgusting” or “gross” or whatever, and I am not one of those.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Wait until I do my number on it. Christa is going to hide.

    • lillicat

      BTW, tonight’s the night you get to see Cosmopolis, is it not? I’m jealous, and I will be looking for you online to get your take. i have been thinking what you said the other night about DC and DeLillo misunderstanding the underlying meaning of EP’s character. But this is not the blogspot for that. Anyway, the weather looks terrible up your way, so be careful. It’s supposed to hit us around midnight.

    • northGAgirl

      Let us know when you post it…can’t wait to read.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Well I am getting ready to write about it. Kristen is putting her on. It refers back to the Twilight promotion in France. I intend to put the video up. and I intend to make a fool out of that woman. See I don’t just critique in the dialectical Dominating Discourse on their turf where I can’t win. Oh no.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I want to see!

    • nena

      hurry am dying!!

    • nena

      did you post it?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No I’m too upset about the lost comments. Thousands of them.

    • nena

      sorry i did realize u didnt, as I said I have alot on my desktop

    • lillicat

      Totally agree here. Whatever she says since the end of 2010 is filled with subtle hints. Rob has done the same thing also, especially in the Black Book interview. I didn’t think anything of it until this apocalyptic mess with the entire US coming to a stand still and Jenni posting her theory. But as I started thinking about it, the clues are there. Even at Comic Com when Rob was asked the question ” What’s next for Bella and Edward?” He answered- “They get a divorce”. Rob and Kris would never be able to have peace a long as they are Edward and Bella to the fans. Last night during the VMA’s one of the “insider girls” commented that she was in the front row, and that Rob looked so sad, and that he stayed back stage not sitting with the rest of the Twilight actors- well hell yes…… he knew KH was going to say something about Kris and that all the media would be analyzing his facial expressions. He is trying so hard- they both are.

    • s

      What insider girl?

    • lillicat

      I was on GC after the VMA’s. I no longer post on the site because of all the hate; but there is an interesting group of posters who appear to know Kris and Rob or people who know them. It appears that some of them support Rob and Kris at least. The same people post over and over. I was looking for indications from fans on how the BD2 trailer was received. This was last night. This group seems to know each other from their conversations. Posters were asking what KH said about Kris that was bleeped out. This person was able to tell enough that we understood. She said it was very loud. At the same time the conversation was about the new report about Rob drinking excessively, (which I think is hogwash), and the pictures on the web backstage of him holding a beer in several pics. Rolls eyes. I personally can hold onto one glass of wine or beer the entire night, especially in business situations. This means nothing. Of course posters and gossip sites are already saying he needs alcohol intervention because of his split with Kris, therefore lumping another evil sin on Kris’ back. Please.

    • nena

      SO what did he say,dont leave us hanging!!!!

    • lillicat

      He said something to the effect that “we know RS is a motherf–g lying bitch” The poster who was present on the front row could not hear well because of the noise.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      wow!

    • nena

      wow ha, wonder how RP felt about that? Im sort of glad that KH said what he did, it was nice

    • nena

      I went to GC and started reading for about 3 min and got off, wow those people are out for blood, they would kill their own kid!!!

    • lillicat

      Very perceptive! It’s hard to stay on the comment section for long. It just hurts my heart.

    • nena

      They could have been planting the seed then, We are not Bella and Edward, so leave us alone

    • lillicat

      You know, I thought the choice of segment in the trailer was interesting. It would depend when and how it was chosen. I loved the snippet showing how B&E grab onto each others hand, look at each other, he can obviously read her mind, and then use her as a WEAPON!!!!! Now that was epic! ShowBiz Tonight will have a segment on Kris at the TIFF/OTR and possibly an interview at 10:00 PM. I loved how she spent time with the fans, and I’m so glad they were there for her. In one of the interviews she placed her hand on her face and there was the gold ring was that Rob had given her. She also had the gold necklace on he gave her at Cannes. It could be seen through the fabric of the dress. I love it that she wears them for whatever reason if it means something to her.

    • nena

      I saw that also

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      And how stupid that they think and feel that they have to. This is the beauty of Kerouac’s On the Road. They are my generation. The pressure was far worse, but you were also freer. These people just said fuck it. Nietzsche calls it Dancing in Chains.

    • lillicat

      Hi AB: Glad you made it home from Cosmopolis in one piece. The Doppler looked fierce up there. OK: OTR- This is just before my “coming of age” time of the 1960-early 1970′s. It appears to me that the “Beat Generation” morphed into the “Free Love/Age of Aquarius” Generation. I have always been fascinated by this era and the people who had the balls to be that free. I loved Ginsberg as a teenager. My opinion is that this movie will be well received, because there are at least two generations that would love to be in a time where we didn’t know about the depravity existing today. IE: Can you imagine a road trip such as this without being preyed on in some way? I hope I’m explaining myself correctly. I may need to get my moonstones IOT open my channels.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Having been on some roadtrips in the 60′s I know the feeling. And the risks I took just going on my intuition about someone. Having been in situations that seemed to turn slightly iffy to me and planning how to get out of them before they knew I was going to do it. Right now I can’t write anything because I am sick about losing the thousands of comments from my twilight irruption blog. I am refraining from making it worse but haven’t heard from tek people yet. I am itching to try to solve it but I don’t know enough. I did this once before and forget how I did it.

      I saw Ginsberg in the 60′s chanting his poetry in robes at Penn with a group. I went to hear Leary at Princeton in the fall of 66 with my rocker boyfriend who turned into a Fillmore poster artists and then one of the original tattoo artists. He’s here: http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=4735743580841954664#editor/target=post;postID=8800636187812748153 Did you know him or his work?

    • nena

      this is what I thought also , the woodstock people! Before my time also, its hard to imagine being ale to just go and not worry about where you sleep or if you have food, can you imagine going some where with no cell phone or like $5 in your pocket, they didnt know the dangers of LSD or AIDS, seems like mars…

    • lillicat

      Yeah, this is a confession: When I was a little older than Kris I took off to Mexico alone traveling around the country with 300.00 american dollars, my backpack, a hammock, and halazone tablets ( for water purification), one change of clothes and a sweatshirt. I was gone for 3 months with my parents not knowing how to reach me(no cell phones then). I am lucky to be alive, and am contrite for putting my parents through that. If a 23 year old girl did that today, she would never make it out alive. I have never shared this with my boys.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I think that was amazing of you. I never dared to do that although I wanted to. Wow. Oh tell your boys. How old are they? That is going to play with their minds, so do it now rather than later, so it will affect their choices of gf and lovers and a wife maybe. I am impressed.

    • lillicat

      Well they are all married with adorable children. They know I was a hippie wild child, but I never shared this with them because I didn’t want them to consider doing it themselves. Two of the three were tame compared to the way I acted, and I am blessed for that. The youngest has always been a hand-full. However, he has a sweet spirit, and has a wonderful partner and 3 kids that he loves dearly. This is my retribution for flinging my soul to the wind, and I knew that I would deal with it..

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Baudrillard calls it “Letting the world will you”.. It’s in the Order of Seduction not the Order of Production. This is what Eric Packer does in DeLillo’s Cosmopolis. While in the limo he is in the Order of Production – simulated reality- and when Elise seduces him into following her, everytime he leaves the limo, “the world wills him” because he is in the Order of Seduction. The Cronenberg didn’t get this.

    • nena

      I would be so scared!!! they say what goes aroung comes around, as a parent I am glad for call phones, and that all3 of my kids arnt that adventureous

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I would have loved it if my mother had told me something like that.

    • nena

      I have some sstuff saved on my desktop?? is this what you need its your blog stuff

    • nena

      The dancing chains– The end will always fall short of our ideal but the joy in doing the best we can takes the edge off of this depressing reality.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      When you think of a progressive end it means you are thinking of the world – and time – as linear. that is just a perception we have imposed on the world. Our world is Event driven, not cause and effect driven This R/K Event is opening up many important issues.Don’t close your eyes to them.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Trying so hard over nothing. What happened was nothing. The Debordian SPECTACLE conjured up by the media is the EVENT. What happened on that road is not the event, the media buzz is the Event. If Zizek explains this using Kristen as an example tonight at the showing of his movie and the discussion afterwards at TIFF then she will know also. Zizek is a master at this. He is the “victim” of it non stop, but he plays them, he judos them. They don’t know what to do with him.

    • nena

      What is his movie? Why would he use her as an example, that would be very awkward!! What will she know? And who is he, you are doing it again, I know you didnt write this to me but i need it in pics, well word pics

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Zizek would do it publicly in such a way as to expose the real meaning of the media SPECTACLE. He would absolve her of all her guilt over this that she shouldn’t be feeling, and free her. Someone said she just said in an interview that she was moving to New York? Go to my blog focusfree.blogspot. I am really upset as I just lost all my comments on blogspot for twilight irruption. I think I can get them back but I have to wait for disqus tek to help me. Meanwhile I am anxious to a horrible extent.

    • nena

      I dont see it on thee, hope you got your stuff back, that really sucks to think you have lost so much!!!!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I am going to work on it.

    • lillicat

      Oh No! Let us know when you get it back. I could reread the entire site!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      And there are just thousands from 1 1/2 years by really intelligent people. They are still on disqus but just not where I want them. And none of the unregistered ones are on disqus. So I need google to get them back. Fat chance. So I need a google tek person to figure it out. I may have to take it to a professional. My bf is punishing me for my attention to my blogs and not him, by not doing it for me. I don’t think he knows how and won’t say so.

      Now that I have found so many new people I need to be able to link the posts and have all the comments there. It’s like a “floating index” the way I have marked up all my books.

      I’m sick. And now I’m hungry.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I am so sorry, I hate when I loose stuff, it is the worst.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You have no idea! Losing a child must be the worst. My dogs are my worst.

    • nena

      too bad he didnt especially since the 20/20 thing

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You know she is a heroine, a feminist heroine. This is showing all women something they haven’t wanted to know. You hear a lot about the corporate glass ceiling. But now we are down to the nitty gritty. Sex.

    • nena

      KS? I dont understand nitty gritty–sex, im sorry im just …..

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Scum.

    • lillicat

      Did you mean that someone said Kris was moving to New York?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Sorry I read that on a comment board and I am so overcooked with all this. I hated to see her trashed and people defending her that didn’t have the skills to do it floundering and getting dumped on. This is a microcosm of our culture and it is scary.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I saw it in a comment that she said it in an interview. I haven’t heard or read anything else about it. I should have kept quiet but I wanted to know. That’s all. If she does we will hear about it.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Sorry it is on moviesandfilm.blogspot.com

    • lillicat

      This blogspot has a lot of great stuff too. I am going back to read more. Thanks. I hope you can get your data back. I’ll be thinking about you.

    • nena

      ummmmm name change??

    • lillicat

      I’m cool with this. It’s been evident for a long time that the chaos surrounding Kris and Rob is fueled by the secrecy. Perhaps that’s why they were starting to be more open. I have searched online for a link to the section of Nietzsche’s writing where he discusses “Dancing in Chains”. I have a clue of what he means, but would like to read more. Can you point me in a direction?

    • nena

      i did

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Bless your darling heart. Read this one. It’s short. And beautiful. http://focusfree.blogspot.com

    • nena

      very very beautiful, telling!!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      curioushairedgal did it. She posts with me when the spirit moves her. When it does she catches your breath with the beauty of her writing. And seeing.

    • nena

      according to fan@real_pr_pro

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      OK yes I read that!

    • Guest

      20/20 is The National Enquirer with moving pictures.

    • nena

      I am so mad and discussed with them!! That Ben Evenstad sounds like a real standup guy, the jerk!!! I never got the other girls name. I really am so sad that they wont let it die. And that they get the average joe to believe them, and just keep it going. God I wish get sued!!!!! I seriously dont understand how they sleep at night!!!!

  • nena

    This just keeps getting better and better. I do find it hard to believe she said most of it, cant think she would say that about licking her arm pits, that seems strange!!! Plus like we have all learned where the media puts quotes affects what you think, they want us to think their– there how is that Abbybrooks???? I still say RS and KS hadnt known each other that long to be so crazy head over heels in love, and I dont think she is stupid enough to say anything in public about RP since he is married!!! RP and KS had just been to the wedding and was quoted then that she had said ” I want to have Rob’s baby” this is so crazy. KS and RP had dropped hints that they were dating, like she said something about the ring that Rob gave her that ” everyone asks about it and everybody knows, I mean come on” or something like it. And if the author want us to believe that she is tlking about RS then why didnt this come out shortly after the pictures? They could have said yeah we know read this. I just think it sounds too…… i dont know I just read the link above and she says the same thing!!!!! Why wont the media just shut up!??

    • jenna

      ???
      “I still say RS and KS hadnt known each other that long to be so crazy head over heels in love,”
      They met in 2010
      “I dont think she is stupid enough to say anything in public about RP since he is married!!! ”
      Stupid enough to make out ith him in public though

    • nena

      they met, she continued to shoot BD then they filmed and many sccounts have said nothing went on during SWATH shoot, then they do promos, dont think they spent that much time alone. And I dont think the make out was real for several reasons. Sorry just my opinion, and many others

    • xo

      No. They both admitted to spening a lot of time together reworking the script and developing the Snow White character. Hey, you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

    • lillicat

      She spent a lot of time with Bill Cordon doing the same thing. That’s what directors and actors do. Are you going to say she had an affair with him also? This is in reply to jenna.

    • lillicat

      Yes, and Rob was there for part of that time.(Hi Nena) I hate how people make statements to elude KS and RS were having an affair during production when Nothing Has Been Proven. Just starting hate rumors. I am going to believe what Kris has told us until she says differently. Believe me people, we all have other fish to fry.

    • Gosia

      Where have You heard about marriage – what’s going on?
      Tell me!!!

    • nena

      She ment to say RS, he is married and I said that I thought KS was smart enough not to refer to RS in public since he was maried.

    • Gosia

      He was her former director and the sequel was planned. It was him who called her and we don’t know what he told her as a purpose of their meeting. I suppose she’d thought it would be business meting. If you work wit men you meet men I don’t see anything wrong with it. Because she didn’t try to hide this meeting I think she had no wrong intentions.
      It’s him who planned this all. He is responsible for all the pain.
      She just couldn’t handle situation he caused.
      You know she is not idiot but smart girl. If she like to cheat she would find good enough shelter to do this.
      Isn’t it reasonable?

    • nena

      Yeah I know. I have said that I am changing my feelings on LS and RS and they set this up, they are the ones profiting from it most. Who is hurting? KS and RP are LS and RS are not, she acts like she isnt a scorned wife and he is running around with kids laughing. LS was a surprise appearance in NYC at the fashion show walked the runway, so sad she is, they are scum, now I want it revealed!!!! 20/20 missed the ball there

  • lizzy

    Don’t know what to make of this Vogue UK “reporter” …. this “squeezing her fists and stiffening that little body”" statement is so icky somehow. By the way, doesn’t Liberty (who!?) have a blog for Vogue UK.? just saying…..

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Liberty does and the the “little body” quote is kinda “hmmmmmm.” weird

    • jennt

      I just read the whole article. Here’s how the author puts it, ”
      The second and last time we met, Stewart and I were taking a cigarette break on the steps of the Hotel Particulier in Montmartre, where a dinner was being thrown in honor of her and Nicholas Ghesquire. It was about a week after our first meeting and she was as disarmingly friendly and chatty as ever…Stewart had just returned from Sydney with Sanders and her Snow White co-star Chris Hemsworth on her last leg of the film’s promotional tour. She seemed a little tired (those slight bags under her eyes were a bit more pronounced, and she seemed almost a little constrained by all her finery), but – with that cigarette placed behind her back, like she was behind a bike shed, and a drink in hand – she was in full swing.” Then she says what she says about the armpits.

      Here’s what I think could’ve happened: 1) She was drunk; 2)She thought she was off-the-record; 3) The reporter took some liberties and misquoted her (this was not said during the original interview). However, the article is not a hatchet job. The author paints Kristen in a really good light and taken in context, the quote is not that shocking.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      right, it is never a derogatory article, just weird.
      Absolutely good point if she was at a party, jet-lagged, tired, (bags) and even one big glass of wine can get you pretty buzzed under those conditions. And forget who you are talking to.

      “with that cigarette placed behind her back, like she was behind a bike shed, and a drink in hand – BUT I don’t get this quote, why the need to hide the cigarette?-should be clearer for the reader.

    • jennt

      I took it to mean that she was self-conscious about it, like you might sneak behind the shed for a cigarette to hide from your parents if you were underage. That’s what made me think it was an unguarded moment for her, that she felt safe saying that because she wasn’t with a reporter now, but a friend. Plus you’re jet-lagged, buzzed and missing your boyfriend, so you let it slip.

      But I’m one of the ones who also think this cheating scandal is nothing more than a PR/image-changing stunt, so her saying that armpit thing about Rob doesn’t surprise me. I do think she loves him that much, I do think he loves her that much, and I don’t think they ever broke up in the first place. The fact that she’s been out in public wearing his clothes now makes sense – they smell like him and having that smell against her skin is second best to having him with her.

      My guess is they’ll stay apart until BD and then “miraculously” be together for the promotions, happily every after. In the meantime, all these never-ending stories are keeping their names and projects in the headlines (Lib and Rupe also beneficiaries) so the tabs are doing their promotional work for them. Pretty genius if you ask me. :-)

    • Gosia

      Haven’t You noticed that she usually “protected” herself in this way?
      Anyway it seems to me that media (specially press) are doing everything to tear them apart. It looks like rabid dogs attack… till the end.

    • lillicat

      I think you have hit the nail on the head.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Glad that was figured out.

    • lillicat

      Totally agree here.

    • nena

      where did u find it?

    • jennt
    • nena

      thanks and Ill never tell anyone your secret is safe with me

    • lillicat

      BTW, there were some really good interviews from TIFF, and some good articles about Rob also on this site.

    • lillicat

      Thank God the reporter didn’t totally slam her. I really think what she said was pretty cool, and daring.

  • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

    Which man do you think it is Jenni?

    • nena

      come on Jenni spill!

    • Jenni

      Rob. Even though I have a lot of trouble believing this is true. It just seems so unKristen. And so creepily written in general for a celebrity interview in a magazine like Vogue.

    • northGAgirl

      I think this is so weird…again, the girl that never talks about anything is telling a journalist (a profession she’s clearly not a fan of) that she and her boyfriend like to smell/lick/whatever each other’s armpits. No way. Also, the babies thing…maybe, who knows…but I agree with Jenni…it’s just so odd.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      But maybe Kristen just started to change, mature, whatever and now was ok with telling the journalist about Rob or even trying to mess with journalists head or both!

    • S

      That’s my thoughts exactly!

    • lillicat

      Even if was true, it might not raise an eyebrow in Europe. So what? It wouldn’t bother me in the context it was written. More power to them. I will agree that I was surprised that it came from a Vogue interview. Seems more like Rolling Stone Mag.

    • lillicat

      You know, I hope this is a PR stunt and that 5 years down the road the entire story is published. What a movie it would make! LOVE IT!

    • nena

      They have said they are working on something, maybe this ha

  • lillicat

    Natalie: Yes, Kris had just returned from the SWATH junket but remember after being caught on camera walking up the drive to the house she shared with Rob; they didn’t emerge for days. They had done this many times especially after being apart. So what’s the big deal? None of us have read the entire interview, and I can’t wait. Kris was dazzling in the photos, and even though that’s not her true persona – she certainly does transform with the jewel tones. One thing that smacks you in the face when you see any pictures of them(posed or not); the sexual tension is so thick – it can be sliced. IF the armpit licking statement is true ( I would have to see it print first); the interview was for British Vogue. This is NOT so shocking when one remembers that (a)generally European people believe that Americans are overly obsessed with cleanliness. (b) Many intelligentsia go days absorbed in a project or even dissecting a thought process without paying attention to personal needs ie: eating or bathing. Kris may not be educated but she was obviously born with an innate sense of cognitive thinking fueled by focus and determination; to the extent not seen in some college graduates. Rob is very similar, maybe a little easier distracted, so maybe more artistic. (c) they both were starting to “come out of the closet” about their relationship with BD2 approaching, (d) Kris said in an interview last year that they weren’t trying to get pregnant, but if it happened it would happen,and (e) on the infinite chance she was attracted to RS (you just don’t feel it) she would have NEVER referred to him as her BF. She had already made the statement “My BF is English” when Rob made BA. So, now the media voles are nitpicking every statement! Gah!! Maybe they will buy some land in New Zealand where they can breathe for a change. Sorry for the long post.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I really agree with your points but I also think she was infatuated with Rupert/ had her ego stroked by him due to some vulnerability (or whatever)–She could still love and be devoted to her bf Rob despite the Rupert thing but– I know many people disagree with that.

    • lillicat

      Anything could be possible, but we will not know until Rob and Kris are ready to share that info.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I hope they do (lol) someday maybe!

    • nena

      What is BA? and I agree about the BF thing no way, it was Rob

    • lillicat

      Bel Ami

    • nena

      yeah stupid me got that about an hour ago, sometimes my mind is totally gone, not enough sleep will do that

  • s

    So KS REALLY, ACTUALLY said this????? The armpit thing??? Wtf?! I mean, IF she actualy said this (I hope not), then wth is going on with her? Because, you don’t go from skating around the question “are you dating RP”, staying tight lipped about her relationship (for 3-4 years) to “he licks my ARMPIT”… in a interview. Let’s not forget, how they hid it (tried) for years. Cmon now, RP has not spoke as candid about his relationship or made comments like “my girlfriend just did that movie”, or ” my girlfriend is american” or whatever (get my point?) Yes, I know when that reporter asked him at one of the Water for Elephants premieres, “where is your girlfriend at?” And he responded “she is at home” or something like that. Why in hec would he ever want her to admit he basically livks her armpit?? Doesn’t make NO sense. STRANGE. Anyway, KS looked amazing at TIFF. Glad she came out of hiding. Time to move on…In the words of Kevin Hart ” If she did, so what? It’s over. Move on.”

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Rob said “Back in LA.” I remember that.

    • s

      Yeah I wasn’t quite sure.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      jennt above has a good idea why she may have said what she did-(armpit) Kristen could have been- at least a little drunk

    • powerpoes

      is she maybe telling the story that belongs with the cheating pictures .
      because in one picture it looks like rupert is sniffing her armpit (in the car). about the litle body ;I have notice in some picture she is smaller THAN RUpert and others she seems taller. Also in an other picture in the car she is squeezing her fist showing him her bicep . I don,t no maybe she is telling the story behind the pics before it even happend .
      it was all planned . Maybe i’m stuppid . i don’t no . My english is really bad. i’m sorry I,m from Holland .

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I still want to see ALL the photos, not just the published ones. Should shed some light on everything.

    • nena

      could be drunk, and maybe thought it was off the record because they were just having a drink and a cig. Maybe she doesnt want to come right out and say things that will be in an article but if she thought it wouldnt be, like the my boyfriend is english, but she should make sure

    • Gosia

      Yes, she met this journalist second time and treated her as normal human being, the second girl. Probably BOTH were chatting about their boyfriends. It wasn’t interview and there’s only what Kristen said.
      All journalist are simply “SH*T EATERS”.
      Anyway it’s beautiful and show the strength of commitment.
      I’m old enough not to be shocked

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Reading all the posts it does seem the journalist had at least some complicity in “befriending” Kristen when she was slightly drunk, had her guard down etc, and it all worked to make an uncharacteristically “open” Kristen

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BAQ6YMLDZCKWNT444WNQXX5ZHI realitynow

      Yes I believe she was at an event, had a few drinks and I know when a lot of people drink, they reveal things they normally would not. I think she believed it was off the record. I certainly would. And the reason she has not confirmed her relationship with Rob, is that if she did, the public would only want more information. Like she opened the door now, she should give us details. You want to keep something for yourself, no matter how small, just to feel like you still have something you’re in control of. She says when asked “it’s so obvious, everyone has to know” and it’s true. I think it’s one of the things she feels she still has control of – they’re not going to make me open the doors to something that is special. It’s the principal. Same with Rob. But nobody gets on him for not admitting it’s her.

    • http://www.facebook.com/some1usetoknow Amy Whitby

      Except that was a lie, Kristen wasn’t at home or back in LA she was there. I was there. I watched them come out of the theater after the movie ended her with sneakers on, heels in hand, getting in SUV – catching that affectionate moment. I find this quote very odd- and don’t imagine anyone spilling anything so intimate let alone Kstew who is so private.

    • nena

      really wow

    • nena

      thats right, I saw that

    • lillicat

      Read the interview again. The interviewer wrote as if Kris thought they were speaking off the record, standing with a drink on one hand and a cig behind her back. She had been away from Rob on the SWATH Aust. junket. It seems natural that she would miss him as she said in the interview.

  • dawn

    Didn’t she quit smoking? The scandal was arranged by rob and Kristen per Ted Casablanca.

    • s

      I miss Ted C. I wish he would relay more info on this cheating scandal. I didn’t and don’t believe everything he said. But I do believe he does know some stuff.

    • lillicat

      What ever happened to Ted C.?

    • nena

      where did you see this? Is it new?

    • lillicat

      She did, but I can’t remember when. AB said she found in research on smoking that when one quits their breasts get larger! That’s a new one one me!!! I just think KS had on a “VS” Wonder Bra at CC.It was black. She was so cute. I loved the “High Notes”. (Noticed she sneaked them on with the designer dress on she way to dinner. Only the heel was showing. Good for her.) Also, aren’t you supposed to gain weight when you quit smoking? I wouldn’t know. Both KS&RP looked a little healthier at CC, especially in the face; now they are both leaner.

    • nena

      She did but that was during the SWATH promo in England wasnt it at the Castle??? Maybe she was smoking on of those electronic cigs when she gave the BV interview. Yes thinner both, that is why Im changing my feelings that its RS and LS doing!!!

  • s

    So now the Ashley Greene & RP stories are coming out….geez. I knew that story would be coming out.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Rob is only at the beginning of being shipped with many young women in Hollywood. Unless, and when he is seen with Kristen again. Then that will start another huge sh*t storm in a different direction.

  • Not Sure

    Yes, this is all so odd and does seems calculated but to what end? There are too many theories in my head and I find this whole thing kinda fascinating:

    1. Kristen is trolling the press by making “licking her armpits”, “loving his smell” and
    “having babies quotes” to see what gets written. Rob admits he likes to
    do the same by saying really outrageous things just to see what gets
    printed i.e. the dogging story on JK. Remember Rob said he wanted to lick the pages of fifty shades of
    grey? Even the interviewer is not sure if KS is messing with her b/c the quote is so outrageous. Plus, Rob really like messing with people minds and Kristen must be picking some of that up from him.

    Expanding upon this theory, I think Rob and Kristen are playing us and the media big time. There seems to be an exchange of quotes from both of them that somehow play off of each other. i.e. Kristen gets caught making out in public and Rob talks about dogging which is british slang for engaging in sexual acts in public. Rob in his interview with MTV Josh was asked Kittens or Puppies and Rob said puppies and added people who like kittens are sociopaths knowing that Kristen has a cat named Max. Meanwhile, the same MTV Josh asked KS at the TIFF red carpet what she has against mountain lions, in reference to the BD2 trailer when Bella is attacking a mountain lion, and Kristen jokes “I don’t like cats. I’m a dog person. You know what I’m saying?” Well we all know she loves her cat Max and talked about him many times. Is she rebutting Rob’s quote saying she is not a sociopath? Could this be a war of words between the two or an inside joke between these two? I think it’s the latter. There are other examples of this going back and forth between them.

    2. The BV author was given a gift that the scandal broke out before the article went to print allowing her to re-tool the article to include the scandal. To be fair the quote was supposedly “off the record” and may have been said during a moment of exhaustion, weakness or drunkeness as others have said. (Not sure if Natalie knew the whole context on how that quote came about when she wrote this article). But is it possible that Kristen’s people may have some
    “influencing” of what was put into that article to help her case that she is
    “madly” in love with Rob knowing that the cheating scandal had already hit? You
    think Vogue would risk putting a weird-ass quote like that without
    either having some proof or approval from her PR team. This could be just another ploy by KS team to recover her reputation with all the other stuff like “sources” leaking how desperate she is to get back with Rob, Ruperv taking advantage of her, parents filing for divorce plus tons of pap’s pics of her arriving at the airport of her wearing Rob’s “stuff” all to garner sympathy. Awww look at Kristen she is sad and must be missing Rob.

    3. If this is a PR stunt as everyone here says then who is her partner in crime. Are all 4 really in on this? Or is it just KS going rogue? Possibly her and Ruperv. Could be as Natalie implied that “something change”. Her new found love for RS? The BV author does hint at KS infatuation with RS “fluttering eyes back”. Could this scandal be setup between KS/RS to gain publicity for her and Ruperv allowing her to break away from twilight mode, plus get out of their respective relationships. Did she know that all hell was going to break loose b/c she was about to betray her hot bf who is beloved by all and planted this quote (as Natalie implies) making her sound like a devoted gf and not a homewrecker? It’s not real obvious that Rob is playing along if he is part of the PR stunt. Rob has been to NY and back, London and back and there are no 150 paps photos of him looking sad and forlorn. He’s not going around wearing her stuff like baseball caps, etc. Plus in the Daily Show Rob made it a point to say he needs a publicist. Was he saying I’m not part of this b/c I don’t have a publicist this is all KS/RS thing. Is the above article preparing us for her and Rupert to come out as a couple. I guess only time will tell if we see any of them together in the near future.

    • nena

      ick. I do see your point at times but I would like to say IF this is a stunt by RS and KS to be a couple then I for one will be very disapointed in them. None of this was needed for this at all just break up for got sake be stand up, mature people!!! No one needed to be the bad guy if they woulded have acted responsibly, and the whole world (crazy fan girls and women) didnt need to get involved. Another point is why niot wait until aft BD2 comes out break up, start being a couple (KS&RS) oh we are so much in love. But having said that the appologies were sent the very next day, getting everyone all riled up, picking sides and name calling with only KS the bad guy, now if KS&RS want to be together why the appoliges, no one was the bad guy the next day why the act of making a mistake, Ilove him, this affair is the worse mistake I have ever made, I want my wife back etc why the back tract if not to feed the PR scandal/? I cant see RS or KS being this cruel to a bf or wife especially in public. Another thought she still had on the necklace and ring on in the red carpet pics. RP could have taken a chartered plane so no pics at the airport and some one did say above that RP looked sad at the vma’s, this is giving me a headache

    • lillicat

      It’s like it’s a type of code between them (KS&RP). Was there any sighting of him at the after party? Was AG there? If he left after the BD2 intro, he could have flown to TIFF by private jet?

    • lillicat

      There was a pic of Rhiana hugging his neck backstage. I’m surprised none of the hags have picked up on that.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Saw that too!

    • Gosia

      I’ve found it for you (what’s happened after VMAs) so now tell me who married whom? and when I can find it. You figured it out in this discussion or when?
      Please. Let me be on the same page?!

    • nena

      no one see my other post

    • lillicat

      Gosia: I went to dinner before the storm hit, so I’m not sure about what you mean about “who married whom”. I posted above what I found on the after party. I was curious because I was reading about Kris going to dinner alone(I seriously doubt that she ate alone), and a poster jumped on the site with “RP just got busted with his ho AG”. And so it begins…..Hah. Did anyone see Show Biz Tonight’s segment on Kris at TIFF at 10:00PM CST? I am going to try to catch it at 1:00AM. I watched part of 2020 but never saw anything about KS? I understand it was a 2 Hr special.

    • nena

      I have told her I posted ” I dont think KS is stupid enough to say anything in public about RP( but ment to write RS) since he is married , I wrote it wrong!! RS is married not RP

    • Gosia

      Thanks

    • lillicat

      Oh, you know I understood what you were trying to say. You just got excited to make a point. OK, I went to the link you gave me and read everything! There were 2 excellent TIFF interviews, and neither interviewer mentioned the “C” word. Thank God. I downloaded the BV article. I thought it was great- maybe one of the more intuitive articles about Kris recently. And yes, I can see what she was saying. She had been away from Rob for awhile, and of course she missed him. There is nothing in her words that eludes she is talking about RS. I’m glad the interviewer didn’t push the idea that Kris was talking about RS. I was just wondering: Is the little Mexican bar/restaurant the same one Rob used for the BB interview?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      We are in Simulated Reality and that has to be accepted and absorbed. It’s not easy to see. It’s not total yet. When it is total we will be in Virtual Reality. Eric Packer in Cosmopolis is in the same borderland. Cronenberg’s eXistenZ is an excellent description of Virtual Reality becoming total.

    • nena

      See I agree, I dont know about the restaurant, could be. abbeysbooks said she had thoughts on the article,,just waiting!!! The more that is unfolding I wonder more about RS and if he planned this to get KS, or as Abbysbooks says someone was in the right place at the right time when RS was coming on to KS, maybe she didnt respond to him didnt like it but didnt know what to do or didnt want to really make him mad cuz of the next movie. You know none of the pics look like they are talking in them, they are never looking at each other,it still all looks like staged poses, the pics where she is in the parking lot with Nick C, look more like they are having a conversation, Am I crazy??

    • lillicat

      I wonder how whoever posted that the pics were out of sequence knew this information? Like Jenni said, if they were it would tell a completely different story. If this is ever debunked, I hope ABC is forced to recant this report.

    • notsure

      Has anyone thought that maybe US weekly doesn’t have all the pics that those were the one’s given or shown to them? It was definitely enough proof to show that something going on between KS/RS. On some other board someone mentioned that fameflynet were the same people that took both KS airport pics as well as her first outing pic. They suggested that they are given these exclusives pics b/c they want to get the more incrimination pics back. If you got $250K for just the 50 pics you definitely can keep making more with the other pics in your arsenal. That’s probably why the pic sequence don’t make sense and we only have seen 50 of them. Just a thought to the crazy theories

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      There was a sighting of Rob with the US gymnastics team back stage. I believe it is in People.

    • Gosia

      Well I was reading gossip and it was said that they all (all cast + Rob) went together.

      Following his appearance at the VMAs, where Pattinson premiered a new trailer of Breaking Dawn – Part 2 along with the rest of Twilight cast (minus Stewart), he headed to one of his favorite haunts the Soho House in West Hollywood to enjoy the rest of his night out.
      The actor was seen accompanied by his Twilight costar Ashley Green, including other friends as they were tucked away in the most isolated corner, so that Pattinson couldn’t be bothered.

      “He was smiling and really enjoying himself, chatting to his friends,” an onlooker tells People. “He [seemed] committed to having a night out with close, trusted friends and he didn’t break away from the comfort of them.”

      OK I’ve found :
      http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/87307/Details-of-Robert-Pattinsons-MTV-VMAs-Night-Out

    • nena

      I saw a bunch of pics of him leaving aft party it said, I think with his bodyguard, cant remember where I saw them

    • lillicat

      Stinking PH. He is the one that shouted Rob was spending the late evening with AG at Soho House; but then he got busted by a poster that said that AG was in NYC, and that Rob was with his friends. Said that the AG story was started by a friend of someone that works there. I’ll bet he/she does’t work there long. HaHaHaHa. Also that any female within 20 feet of him will be the next big fling. Poor guy. People suck.

    • Not Sure

      AG is not his type. She dresses like she is going to afternoon tea to comic con while KS dresses like she is KS (herself) and things that are well rehearsed and expected of her. Basically the fake stuff that Rob doesn’t like and opposite of who KS is.

    • lillicat

      I believe that’s true also.

    • lillicat

      Last week he supposedly had her sunglasses on, and isn’t the black backpack he wore from the StandUp2Cancer drive the same one she wore when she was spotted out week before last? Look, this is just a gut feeling about RS- but in all the pic throughout production, post production, red carpet up to the momentary whatever; the vibes were just not there between them. Posters have said RP and KS were strained at CC, but all the footage shows them touching each when talking, joking around, leaning into each other, holding hands, biting lips, etc. You could just feel the love and devotion.

    • nena

      I agree, I didnt see anything wrong at CC and I really never saw anything between RS and her except a working relationship. Some one posted a very short clip of KS looking like she is telling RS to stop something who knows really but it does look like she is upset by something. Maybe HE was sort of doing stuff then and she was like “NO” im not liking LS or RS and leaning towards their stunt.

    • lillicat

      I don’t think we will ever know until Kris/Rob publishes an expose, if ever. What a read that would be. They should throw in Abbeybooks’ observations on the “Spectacle/Dancing in Chains” analysis. Man, when I did the research, it blew my mind. I thought I was back in Psychology 3320. I have no doubt that the media induced mob mentality feeding frenzy we have witnessed the last 45 days will be used in the FBI/CIA training manual in the future.

    • nena

      You know If this was done to RP and KS, and RS came on to her I wonder if RP and KS are just waiting for the right time to defend her, saying the pics do lie and this is what really happened and we just used ti to our advantage oh IDK

    • DB

      Not the same backpack. Hers has blue ribbons attached and the look is also different.

  • s

    My only issue with this whole scandal is, why the hec is KS wearing Robs clothes, his jewelry he bought her, and use his backpack IF they have “broken up” or if ge “dumped her” (whatever happened)??? I mean, if my BF dumps me, would I wear his clothes and wear the gifts he gave me “after” we’re through? No way! That’s desperate. Even if she is trying to show RP her love for him or that she really is sorry or whatever it may be….that still looks desperate. Im not saying nothing bad about KS, but I’m using common sense here. What is really going on here?

    • nena

      I agree, she doesnt seem to be the kid of girl to beg especially in a public way. Does she?? She seems so sure of herself, unless she is so so unhappy and sad about what happened that she doesnt know what to do and is grasping at straws to show him how sorry she is.

    • s

      Yeah, I wish I knew. if she did cheat on RP and this isn’t a stunt, even though she humiliated him, should she be making herself look insanely desperate about trying to get him back??? No way. That’s what my mom &DAD taught me. IF you did something wong, own up to it, apologize (alot if you must)and see what happens. Because you can only apologize so much. Regardless of how many times you apologize or beg, It’s up to the other person if they want to forgive you. And just because they forgive you, doesn’t mean things will work out…zThey can accept your apology and forgive you, but does that mean they wantyou back? RP smiling and trying to enjoy himself, have some fun. She should too, especially. Try andove on, just in case. She can’t or shouldn’t punish herself for what happened for the rest of her life.

    • s

      Basically, humble yourself but don’t demean yourself.

    • nena

      I heard you can apologize 3 times and then if they dont accept its their fault and not your problem any more

  • Gosia

    Please tell me what’s going on with marriage?
    I was out almost all day and now I’m lost. Is it a new theory? What’s going on?

    • nena

      I explained it I think look when you first asked that, look about 47 posts down, it really was a misprint by the person who commented on mine no one got married

  • Guest43

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    • lillicat

      This sounds goofy; but do male cats have this? My male Siamese is determined to stick his head in my armpit and leave it there! WTF. His sister never does that.

  • jen

    what a freak. I bet she was drunk or even stoned when she said that

  • http://twitter.com/SNSDYurifan1995 Denise

    robert has his own original personality,he even did some weird stuff on bts videos from the first movie LOL

  • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

    It’s no different than oral sex. Sex is great, what’s the big deal?

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