• Tue, Aug 21 2012

We’re Just A Few More Mysterious Romantic Gestures Away From Robert Pattinson Reuniting With Kristen Stewart

After weeks of having our hearts stomped on by the ugly break-up of Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson, we finally see a light at the end of the tunnel. And odds are that light’s connected to the flash bulb of a conveniently tipped off paparazzo’s camera.

Yesterday, Kristen Stewart left her lair of infidelity and lies to grace us with her presence. While many Robsten fans assumed she’d run off with Rob to Mexico to get married and many Libsten (Liberty Ross/Kristen) fans thought they’d retreated to a lesbian love den in Canada, she evidently spent her entire media hibernation hiding in Rob’s closet.

His literal closet.

How else do you explain the fact that she re-emerged into society yesterday wearing his hat, his bracelet and his backpack. A hat, bracelet and backpack that he allegedly wore in NYC this past week during his interviews for Cosmopolis last week. (Awesome comparison photo via @Naira_TVD here)

While we searched every nook and cranny in the City of Regrets for her, she hid in the one place we didn’t look. Her own home that she shared with Rob.

As someone who’s undeniably very aware of the media hype her cameo into the world of the living would make yesterday, she made a very active choice to wear Rob’s stuff. Why? She’s giving fans a teaser, a hint that she might be in the process of reconciling with Rob.

Perhaps in the hopes that this renewed interest on whether she’s back with him will not only make all their fans forget she strayed, but also remind them that she has Rob’s approval. And if she has Rob’s approval, then she must be a-okay – and not a trampire who deserves to be dumped on by angry Twihards.

These are the necessary steps one must take after a PR stunt turns everyone against you.

So look for more signs, teasers and hints over the next few weeks. Get ready for the media to prepare for their reconciliation like it matters.

Then, when they appear at some point in the future, holding their hands together triumphantly and blurting out lovely declarations of love, look for the publicist in the corner. She’ll be the one getting the promotion for pulling off a fantastic stunt.

One that’s still, somehow unsuspected by so many people. Riddle me that fans. How do you still believe that any of this is real?

P.S Since I’m not allowed to use the real photo from yesterday, I hope this one of her in Rob’s clothes will do.

(Photos: PCN Photos)

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  • S

    Idk where this story came from,(it’s everwhere) I guess, RP wasn’t to happy about KS wearing the ring he had given her, his hat and backpack. I was waiting for this story to come about, after the new photos of KS wearing his stuff appeared online. Because it was a given, and adds more drama to to this scandal. It’s like you can already guess, what new “story” is going to follow after the previous one.lol

    • steph

      The great thing is…the story won’t die because Kristen only has to step out wearing his clothes and the gossip mags will start spinning the story from there. They come up with anything just to keep this story going.

  • Jen

    I don’t know why you all are thinking Kristen is putting her career in jeopardy by “taking the hit” for Rob. He’ll have to take his lumps to build Kristen back up. That’s how the game works. Didn’t you notice the arfully contrieved Ghandi quote about forgiveness in the latest Kristen gossip, right alongside Rob breaking her heart more by going out with Leo DiCaprio and his pussy brigade? And don’t forget poor, delusional Kristen grasping onto the last bit of hope by wearing Rob’s things and now he’s pissed about it. Something worse will come out about him. Maybe we’ll see him French Kristen’s mother or something.
    Also, don’t want to forget our other player, Liberty, hitting the red carpet. Um, wasn’t she supposed to be on a plane back to the UK after dumping hubby? Isn’t that what her blog post suggested? But no, she’s out on the red carpet as if anyone in the States knew who she was a month ago…and yet the sheep still don’t get it. I used to wonder who could actually fall for Nigerian email scams. I don’t anymore.

  • lizzy

    Sorry if this re-posts-
    Honestly, “guest” has me thinking it IS a distinct possibiity those are not photos taken this week…we all assume it, but just like the original “scandal” photo’s – the scene is very contained with no photos on the road, where they went, or any other paps clambering around taking different photos- like some deep sea creature rarely seen, she is gone again.
    Now, let’s add in the latest Liberty Ross red-carpet event yesterday (nice exposure, nice new fame, nice timing, yes?) and while she wasn’t wearing a ring TMZ quotes a “source” that they are working to repair their marriage and it make take “months” ….months, hmmmm…. like say, November?
    And there was that instragram Liberty supposedly posted of a drinking snow white “not so pretty, not so pure” – released what, same day as the photos? How convenient to just happen to have that little image hanging around.
    Ugh, whole thing is giving me a headache. But the CSI-lover in me cannot just let it go….arghhhhhh

  • lizzy

    oh no…Gandhi….is this a ploy leading up to a…. “spiritual retreat”…. so she will have to miss September commitments… somewhere there is a room of people drinking and mocking the world as they make up these “source” stories….arghhhhhhh

    • nena

      i said that along time ago, that I could imagine people sitting at a table thinking this crap up

  • maybe

    Neither of them (Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson) ever said they were a couple. It could be they were always friends, and even maybe dated, but never were really a “couple”. It’s always been conjecture, never confirmed by Kristen or Rob. It’s still all conjecture. It could be that Liberty Ross and Rupert Sanders were already separated when they met Kristen Stewart. How do we know anything for sure? Maybe, if it’s true that Kristen said her boyfriend is English, she meant Rupert. It could be that Kristen and Rupert are the real couple here, and they didn’t cheat, they actually just decided to tell the world in their own way. Or maybe they were both actually totally free to kiss who they wanted (whether they were officially a couple or not) and felt like getting caught doing it, (another way of giving the finger, maybe). It was only a few days earlier she was seen giving the finger to the paps, again. (It does look to me like the pics of Kristen and Rupert were staged, and they intended those photos to be taken.) Maybe Kristen and Rupert are happily together as we read and write. Maybe they got married and the rings they’ve allegedly been seen wearing were their wedding rings.

    What’s wrong with all my theories is I just don’t believe Kristen would, on purpose, let paps make $250,000 on pictures of her. That seems to go against her “giving the paps the finger” principles.

    So maybe Kristen and Rupert are the actual couple, and they maybe did or maybe didn’t set up the paps to catch them, and now they’re just waiting to go after the publications who wrote all of these unconfirmed stories. I wouldn’t want to be the guy making trampire shirts right now either. In this theory, it makes sense that Liberty and Rob keep mum while the legal wheels turn.

    What’s good about this theory is it’s not as cynical as some others, and Kristen gets to go after the paps.

    Or maybe Kristen and Rupert are the couple, and they never even knew about the pictures because they sailed off into the sunset that same day, and never apologized to anyone, and have been having a “honeymoon’ off the beaten path somewhere with no outside contact.

    • nena

      But Rupert was seen at the grocery store. Ick I dont like this theory, he is to old for her. When she said her bf is english was during BD1 she hadnt started filming SWATH yet, is RS and LS wernt together then why did she move to LA? I dont think she would marry someone she hasnt known for that long or do it this close to BD2 coming out. Why not just wait a few months? I still think RP and KS are the couple, they have been seen together alot, showing PDA I cant think if RS and KS were together he would like it if RP and KS were seen being very affectionate. I mean why continue a fake relationship between RP and KS? what would the point be? I think the reason they never say very much stuff about each other is that like RP and KS have both said they wont sell their personal life. If RS and LS had broken up and KS and RS started dating wouldnt we have seen pics? No I dont like this theory sorry just my opinion.

    • maybe

      I’m saying we don’t really know anything. We don’t know when KS met RS, it could have been way before filming SWATH started. I was trying to be funny when I said the thing about marriage, but who knows? RP and KS had some sort of PDA moments, the only really convincing one was at the most recent Cannes Film Festival, when he was affectionate and she didn’t push him away. But before that it was just sort of almost PDA–and she pushed him away sometimes too, just like she was pushing RS away in some of those pics. I haven’t seen any evidence that she had a committed exclusive relationship with anyone.

      How do we know LS moved to LA? And if she did, maybe she’s pursuing her own career goals there or just bringing the children to spend time with their father. Could be lots of things. Maybe she has a boyfriend in LA and he’s a Hollywood Movie Director, 60 years old and going through a divorce from his 2nd or 3rd wife.

      I’d forgotten about that pic of RS getting groceries. That was pretty convincing. Ok maybe he didn’t take off somewhere on a honeymoon with KS, but that doesn’t mean they’re not together.

      I don’t think the relationship between KS and RP is fake. They seem to have a good working relationship, they seem to be friends, and maybe they
      have been roommates too. Maybe they haven’t defined their relationship for the whole world because they haven’t defined it for themselves (and they don’t have to tell us anything). I just don’t see how we can assume anyone cheated on anyone. Those apologies could be completely fake.

    • Nena

      I guess I was going on all the pics of them leaving or going to concerts etc and all the tweets from people over the last few years about them at concerts kissing and stuff. Vacations where people have tweeted, I know tweets arnt always correct but when u have some from many people it adds more weight. Another point if RS and LS weren’t together why so “together” at the SWATH premiere? And why would he cast her in the movie? Idk. Ick tho

    • maybe

      Friends go to concerts together, and vacations. I think they have so much in common these last few years, they were taking care of each other in a way. But kissing? I only really saw that one convincing time at Cannes.

      For LS, the premier was a very good way to get her own publicity. RS has everything to gain by making sure LS is happy and financially successful, whether he’s married to her or not.

    • nena

      ok why are u awake? I guess I just dont want to think that, I really dont know why I care. I just think that when people have so much in common and have had to spend soooo much time together over the last 4 years that they were a couple. really dont care, just dont like people who play games. Im tired

    • maybe

      It’s my regular awake time.
      Thanks for chatting. Goodnight.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Rupert and Liberty moved to LA 7 years ago for HIS career ambitions. She quit modeling and became a SAHM. I think she is looking to revive her career now–

      Rupert met Kristen when he flew to Baton Rouge where she was filming BD and he wanted to talk her into being in SWATH. I don’t know if that was the actual first time they met but it sounded like it.

    • nena

      oh I thought they just moved to LA, they way she talked I thought she had just recently left her career. Yes she (LS) wants a acting career now. oh well

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I didn’t know that was when they met. Liberty lobbied for her. Which makes me think all this was submerged. That she wanted to be close to Kristen (and Rob?). Triangles are very erotic as the homoerotic feelings for the other of the same sex surface making it more intense than a dyad.

    • The truth is out there

      What in God’s name are you saying? Beyond irrational…

    • Guest

      Why? Because maybe K really felt like kissing Rupert?

  • bell

    this photo and your comment had me busting laughing! that is sooo great nice job!

  • Olga

    http://m.justjaredjr.com/pl/2011/09/11/robert-pattinson-hides-in-notting-hill/
    Read.
    Robsten fans are doing whatever they need necessary to keep feeding that mantra “Robsten is unbroken”. The comparative pic you were talking about is obviously made up.

  • OlgaM

    http://m.justjaredjr.com/pl/2011/09/11/robert-pattinson-hides-in-notting-hill/
    2011/09/11
    That’s the date for the Rob’s pic with the hat, the bag and all that jazz. The comparative pic is obviously made up to feed the believe that “Robsten is unbroken”.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      robsten is ruined. Kristen and Rob may be unbroken. Who can ever hide their hatred for Kristen now by “if she is his choice and makes him happy” crap.

    • nena

      I dont hate her or understand any of the hate for her!! And yes hopefully the persona of “Robsten” is ruined and they can just be K&R and live happily ever after if they choose.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I’ve explained the hate. The fantasy of robsten has been destroyed. Whether they are separate or together, now or soon or later, the fantasy is gone forever because their hate destroyed it for them. All Kristen did was dissolve it for them and their hate has made it impossible for them to reconstitute it if it is PR, if they reconcile, if if if . They can’t ever get it back again because of their hatred so furiously expressed, so virulent, so violent that the genie of their true feelings is out of the bottle. Too bad. The genie never goes back in the bottle.

    • nena

      but isnt that a good thing? They didnt want it, and those people are dilusional. .As I said they can be themselves not a fantasy

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Yes of course. But when something like this is crashed the consequences can be catastrophic for some people. It’s good they have these comment boards to vent on. Without the internet and the sites leading them on this mass hysteria wold not have happened like this. Teens were screaming and fainting over Frank Sinatra (not at all for Eddie Fisher) Women were frothing over Valentino, Elvis, The Beatles. Lennon saw the crowds when he stepped out to exit the plane and he said, “They would tear us apart if they got hold of us.” He knew immediately how dangerous they were. Rob doesn’t get that. Kristen gets it.

    • nena

      Maybe he is starting to with all the hatred that KS has been getting. Maybe RP still sees them as dumb harmless fan girls??

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      He needs to see how his feeding them has consequences. There are comments in this about how wonderful he is to his fans and how bad and mean she is compared. Even Reese had to get out and sell Water For Elephants by milking the crowds because Rob was doing it. She knew she would look mean, arrogant, snotty if she didn’t join him. But he was there far earlier to do it than she was for the premiere. Other Hollywood stars don’t do it to the extremes he does it. Leo didn’t after Titanic. This is why they don’t do it.

      Summit has brought this on by stepping up promotion to an excessive level. Now if a studio doesn’t do it the box office tanks. Cronenberg used Rob to do it for Cosmopolis but it didn’t work did it? Cronenberg is just a Hollywood wanna be.

    • nena

      Yes I agree, but I still think it has to do with inadequate feelings and wanting to please people!!! He just needs to take a step back, trust more in himself. He didnt have a conventional intro into fame like most do. I can compare it to the Harry Potter kids, and the difference may be as simple as they were shot in London Not the publicity hounding place that is LA, They were sheltered. Emma Watson has said that it got crazy when she went to Brown, and couldnt be just a student.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If you have read the Fountainhead you will understand what people pleasing means. Kristen wants to please herself with her acting and as a consequence wants the Twilight fans to like what she did. But she is not doing things to get affection and love. Rob is. That makes him far less independent than she. Remember his parents were often visible at premiere and talk show interviews but hers were never caught on camera.

    • nena

      I have it on my reader to read. I agree KS wants fans to like what she did not necessarily her, I agree that RP is different but as I said I can relate to him, my childhood was not a good one and I know u cant blame parents forever but it shapes you. I am the first born of all sisters so I know I have alot of those characteristics. I didnt have a healthy relationship with my mom or dad, its funny today at mass this girl maybe 9yo was trying to hold her dads hand on her lap he didnt want that I dont think he minded the hand holding just not in her lap so he kept pulling it back, she would lean on him when standing, I thought of you!! But see I never liked my dad or feeling attracted to him so I know Im messed up!!! Maybe he never fit in at school or whatever, didnt have alot of friends or girlfriends. Im the only one of my sisters that had/have low self esteem, who knows why we turn out the way we do. I have raised my kids to like themselves, Why is it wrong for RP parents to be seen? Maybe they didnt want to but we know how the media is. Its different parenting, I mean I wouldnt want to be on camera and maybe they didnt. KS parents are in the biz so maybe they taught KS how to hide. Maybe RP will get better who knows

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s not wrong for RP’s parents to be seen. Just a difference. A sign. A clue, that’s all. I love your description of Mass. Beautiful. Yes that’s the way to see. I could interpret it for you but not necessary. Just keep watching them tho. Yob will see more. If you would only read all of Houellebecq. If only. In thinking about your childhood you are falling into the Dominating Discourse of psychology. This is where Jodie Foster went in defending Kristen. Don’t go there. Useless. But it is what every thrapist will encourage you to do. Don’t.Foucault has demolished this. Baudrillard: “you are perfect just as you are. Now.”

    • nena

      What do you think of birth order and the sex of siblings and which sex is above or below you? I was told once of course after married that My hubby couldnt give me what I need because he is last of seven and had 1 brother older,2 sisters,i bro one sis and one bro, and I am the oldest of 4 girls. And had to take care of family alot. I needed not to be the one to always take care of things and needed to be cared for (not controlled) and he is used to being care for being youngest.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That’s all just pop psychology. Psychologists have made careers on this stuff. Read freud case studies. You will like them. go to the original.

    • gnena

      maybe but in this case its true

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If you think so. Cool.

    • nena

      which books of Houellebecq?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      For you I would say The elementary Particles and Atomised as both take in the early lives of two brothers and their parents. Houellebecq hates his mother (she was a hippie and dropped him with his grandparents for good)and when he writes he takes no prisoners. But all of him is excellent. Rob was reading his poetry and admires him. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_11?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=houellebecq.+michel&sprefix=houellebecq%2Cstripbooks%2C168 You can read the reviews at amazon to see which ones you might like.

      Lanzarote (a beauty) has a used copy today for 1 penny. Go get it.

    • nena

      I have it on my reader to read. I agree KS wants fans to like what she did not necessarily her, I agree that RP is different but as I said I can relate to him, my childhood was not a good one and I know u cant blame parents forever but it shapes you. I am the first born of all sisters so I know I have alot of those characteristics. I didnt have a healthy relationship with my mom or dad, its funny today at mass this girl maybe 9yo was trying to hold her dads hand on her lap he didnt want that I dont think he minded the hand holding just not in her lap so he kept pulling it back, she would lean on him when standing, I thought of you!! But see I never liked my dad or feeling attracted to him so I know Im messed up!!! Maybe he never fit in at school or whatever, didnt have alot of friends or girlfriends. Im the only one of my sisters that had/have low self esteem, who knows why we turn out the way we do. I have raised my kids to like themselves, Why is it wrong for RP parents to be seen? Maybe they didnt want to but we know how the media is. Its different parenting, I mean I wouldnt want to be on camera and maybe they didnt. KS parents are in the biz so maybe they taught KS how to hide. Maybe RP will get better who knows

    • nena

      I have it on my reader to read. I agree KS wants fans to like what she did not necessarily her, I agree that RP is different but as I said I can relate to him, my childhood was not a good one and I know u cant blame parents forever but it shapes you. I am the first born of all sisters so I know I have alot of those characteristics. I didnt have a healthy relationship with my mom or dad, its funny today at mass this girl maybe 9yo was trying to hold her dads hand on her lap he didnt want that I dont think he minded the hand holding just not in her lap so he kept pulling it back, she would lean on him when standing, I thought of you!! But see I never liked my dad or feeling attracted to him so I know Im messed up!!! Maybe he never fit in at school or whatever, didnt have alot of friends or girlfriends. Im the only one of my sisters that had/have low self esteem, who knows why we turn out the way we do. I have raised my kids to like themselves, Why is it wrong for RP parents to be seen? Maybe they didnt want to but we know how the media is. Its different parenting, I mean I wouldnt want to be on camera and maybe they didnt. KS parents are in the biz so maybe they taught KS how to hide. Maybe RP will get better who knows.

    • Nena

      I have it on my reader to read. I agree KS wants fans to like what she did not necessarily her, I agree that RP is different but as I said I can relate to him, my childhood was not a good one and I know u cant blame parents forever but it shapes you. I am the first born of all sisters so I know I have alot of those characteristics. I didnt have a healthy relationship with my mom or dad, its funny today at mass this girl maybe 9yo was trying to hold her dads hand on her lap he didnt want that I dont think he minded the hand holding just not in her lap so he kept pulling it back, she would lean on him when standing, I thought of you!! But see I never liked my dad or feeling attracted to him so I know Im messed up!!! Maybe he never fit in at school or whatever, didnt have alot of friends or girlfriends. Im the only one of my sisters that had/have low self esteem, who knows why we turn out the way we do. I have raised my kids to like themselves, Why is it wrong for RP parents to be seen? Maybe they didnt want to but we know how the media is. Its different parenting, I mean I wouldnt want to be on camera and maybe they didnt. KS parents are in the biz so maybe they taught KS how to hide. Maybe RP will get better who knows.

    • Nena

      I have it on my reader to read. I agree KS wants fans to like what she did not necessarily her, I agree that RP is different but as I said I can relate to him, my childhood was not a good one and I know u cant blame parents forever but it shapes you. I am the first born of all sisters so I know I have alot of those characteristics. I didnt have a healthy relationship with my mom or dad, its funny today at mass this girl maybe 9yo was trying to hold her dads hand on her lap he didnt want that I dont think he minded the hand holding just not in her lap so he kept pulling it back, she would lean on him when standing, I thought of you!! But see I never liked my dad or feeling attracted to him so I know Im messed up!!! Maybe he never fit in at school or whatever, didnt have alot of friends or girlfriends. Im the only one of my sisters that had/have low self esteem, who knows why we turn out the way we do. I have raised my kids to like themselves, Why is it wrong for RP parents to be seen? Maybe they didnt want to but we know how the media is. Its different parenting, I mean I wouldnt want to be on camera and maybe they didnt. KS parents are in the biz so maybe they taught KS how to hide. Maybe RP will get better who knows.

    • nena

      we dont know that anything bad happened between RP&KS, I mean they might have talked right away, never moved out. Maybe she and/or others told her and him to just lay low not say anything. He may have wanted to support her but who knows maybe they (KS&RP) listen to the PR people and the PR people thought if nothing was said that it would blow over. Of course It didnt and they felt it was too late then and decided to just go with “getting back together” even tho they never broke up? Maybe???

  • The truth is out there

    Rupert was a manipulative predator…we need to see he ruined the lives
    of his wife and children, and Kristen and Rob’s by his actions…How
    bout that turn for once? Lets look at it from Rupert’s fault for
    once…here is a Webster’s dictionary meaning of manipulative:
    influencing or attempting to influence the behavior or emotions of
    others for one’s own purposes: a manipulative boss….

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      If you look at it that way you will just feed the beasts. Instead you might want to think about reading it through feminist eyes, as it being a positive thing for the man, enhances his ego, makes him a sexy image, adds to his good ol boy cachet, but the woman gets trashed and called trampire.

      IT IS THE WOMAN WHO TAKES THE HIT. This is DETERRENCE which acts as a “floating sign” which acts as a denying mask to hide the nasty dirty little secret that men are expected to make conquests but women are to be trashed and humiliated, deprived of jobs, work, careers for it.

      It is OK now for women to have sex in the same way men have always had sex. Right! But underneath that “pretended” acceptance, it is NOT OK. Men are still calling us cunts, sluts, tramps, everybody’s hole, etc. They just don’t say it out loud.

      THIS TIME THEY ARE SAYING IT OUT LOUD and moralistic women are joining in with the men saying it too. And other more reasonable women are playing it down because they are not identifying and exposing the dirty little secret it is hiding.

    • nena

      But in this case men dont give a flying fuck about this, its women who are calling her these names. Most normal people are outraged by her treatment!!!! Anyone with a brain at least. Both parties are wrong in this case. If in the post that Gosia said he seduced her then he is more at fault. Our world still has a ways to go, sad right. Both men and women have to take responsibility for their actions and the treatment should be the same. some day

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Why do you keep labeling what she and he did as “wrong”. This is just your perception of it. It is not objectively wrong. It is just how YOU feel about it. Then you take your feelings and slap a judgement on them because you felt a certain way about what they did. You can feel anyway you want at all. all your feelings are fine. But it is not responsible to paste a judgement on someone because of the way YOU FEEL. Is that clear enough?
      As far as other women trashing her that is the brainwashing part of it. The system has brianwashed women to slap their feelings onto something the media puts out there to arouse those feelings and judge the objects morally because of their feelings that they did wrong. You can feel that way. Anyone can feel that way but to judge them for it, THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG, and that is exactly what the media wants you to do. Do you see it now.
      And as Lacan would say, “How do you know they are women?”

      Judith Butler: Gender is socially constructed. That means men and women are social constructs of gender. And the social constructs change with the changes in customs in a civilization, a culture, etc.

      You know you would get much clearer if you just sat down and read all the stuff I have written. I really try to make it understandable for the person who knows nothing about all this but wants to.

    • nena

      I get it, I do feel the way I feel, but shouldnt put it on them. But I cant FEEL differently. And shouldnt feel guilty. But shouldnt hold them to my feelings. I can still think what they did wasnt correct, or how I would have done it. I dont think less of her I just think maybe she isnt as mature as I thought. I dont like what she did and I couldnt care less about him, I said in other post about the reasons. I dont think it wrong to have right and wrong things to live life, but not judge them. I wear my heart on my sleve. I am a romantic at heart. So I want to believe its is PR or staged by RS for what other reasons . I have a hard time if you are in a committed relationship to someone be in the heat of the moment at least for as long as they were supposibly together that day. Thats not a moment. I will try to be more opened minded, I know things happen but after a while you have to thnik why am I doing this/

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You are doing this so as to understand the illusions you are living under. Good and bad, right and wrong do not belong in your thinking. By focusing in that way you block the really evil that exists in this world, that you might be better paying attention to. But that is the media’s purpose. to keep you occoupied with fluffy and soft so you won’t consider hard and dirty. While this has been going on no one noticed LIBOR did they.

    • nena

      no I guess not. Are you saying that there should not be good or bad at all or just here? I get that media is a large part of the problem here, and they want us to believe what they believe, but I get that, like in the Hunger games when Katness is told to remember who the real enemy is, its the media here. But cant I have a good or bad? In speak, Melinda says that not only should you know what you stand for but what you are against also.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You ask really hard questions, you know.

      Good and bad belong in the classical Dialectical Dominating Discourse. It results in ping-pong that never ends. Yes the media is the enemy and not just here. So it is important to understand exactly how they do it. You see they don’t report the news. they make the news. Kristen is not thinking in good or bad. For some reason that astonishes me she keeps tearing off veils of illusion. She is intuitively brilliant. So was Monroe. Rob is better educated but he is not the original thinker that she is. I guess I would say that that is the difference between them and it can be a huge one if he wants control. Early in the Twilight event he was content to follow her. Now at comic con we notice he is confronting her a little, jabbing at her. For some reason. ??????

      Opposites are important but as we are moving into simulated reality (think the capitol in Hunger Games) opposites disappear. No one knows anything. When Katniss shoots the apple and the director of the games discusses this with Sutherland, Sutherland sees what she has done while the director has not. Sutherland is perturbed with her and wants the director to “take care of her” which he tries to do unsuccessfully.
      http://moviesandfilm.blogspot.com/2012/04/kairos-decisive-moment-for-katniss.html?zx=1ada0944c3d4c9d3
      http://moviesandfilm.blogspot.com/2012/04/hunger-games-and-katniss-everdeen.html

      I love the Hunger Games. This time I didn’t read the book as I didn’t want to get in a snit about it. The film is very well done. I still have more I want to say about it.

    • Nena

      I just watched 10 min of the BD2 CC and I didn’t see aanything bad they laughed joked as always. He says something about her missing the point and she. says FU and then a min later says I love you and he says same. I’m glad I ask hard questions you do to!!

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It’s impossible to know what came first or the order of things at CC if you weren’t there. Maybe this has slanted it. What do you think? http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/08/kristen-and-rob-at-comic-con-july-12.html?zx=dd2cb969c39cf795

      Eric Berne wrote a book in the 1960′s called Games People Play and as I see it this whole uproar started by the media has a name. It’s called Ain’t It Awful! This is a pretty high level of it. A very low level would be Susie coming home from school saying, “Natalie fell down on the playground and skinned her knee.” And Mom says, “Oh that’s too bad. did she go to the nurse’s office?” and susie says, “………” and then Mom says,,”………..” so you see how it goes and how it is learned. Mom and Susie learn to talk to each other about sad and bad things that happen in life. And Susie and Mom will be talking over the phone about Kristen and Rob and how sad and bad it is.

      Instead Mom can say, “Oh I’m sorry to hear that. I hope she’ll be OK tomorrow. What did you have for lunch today?”

    • nena

      I get this, they have kept it going and keep putting a different spin on it?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      They want it to “have legs” on it. It seems to be off the tabloids.

    • nena

      I have never really paid attention to tabloids, sure in the grocery store isle. See this example is easy for me to get, too right brained!! I know the media spins things but never to this extreme. Never really paid attention to all the crap in HW and I find it so sad. This is realy the first time I have ever done this kind of thing, but there was something about KS that is so honest and refreshing. The only other “star” I looked up was several years ago, Adam Pascal, dont know if you ever heard of him, he was on broadway and several movies. I heard of him first in the movie Rent which I have watched about a million times, was responsible for many talks with my girls, about people, not judging. Otherwise this a first. I just cannot believe the amount of crap that has come of this, I cant imagine anyone wanting to be an actor, athlete or politician (definitely not that)

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      It is no different in whatever field you are in. It’s more flamboyant in Hollywood but not different.

      You have seen Hunger Games. Talk about that.

    • nena

      I liked it, the books are great, thought the movie cut out too much. It is so strange how most stories are just a spin on the old classics. HG has stuff about the Lottery, the minotaur and the labyrinth. It is a good story. I cant believe how so many people hated it because “how horrible to read a book about kids killing kids” where have they been living??

    • nena

      I liked it, the books are great, thought the movie cut out too much. It is so strange how most stories are just a spin on the old classics. HG has stuff about the Lottery, the minotaur and the labyrinth. It is a good story. I cant believe how so many people hated it because “how horrible to read a book about kids killing kids” where have they been living??

    • lillicat

      It seemed to me in reflecting on the above referenced BD2 CC panel that they were more relaxed and familiar with each other than past CC’s. Leaning into each other, touching, the loving looks, playfully joking around-it felt real, not staged.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      nena what am I going to do with you? How can I convince you to stop judging her and Rupert? I am at my wits end with you. Please please think nicer things about her. Please. For me?

  • Robstenneverexisted

    I dont think they are going to get back together.The stunt was to officially split them up from their fake Robsten relationship.I am 100% sure Robsten never existed.That was PR stunt right from the start.Now they are both free to leave their Twilight behind and move on individually.

    • Jenni

      I believe that’s a huge part of what’s going on. They had to break-up like this to legitimize that their relationship was once real. I’m on team “they’ll get back together before the premiere of Breaking Dawn…then issue a press release in December/January saying that they just couldn’t work it out and part amicably.”

    • Dillinger910

      Help me out here Jenni. When did you start believing the relationship was PR.

    • Jenni

      As soon as I saw the photos and realized they weren’t taken in a private place. Here’s the first time I wrote about it being a PR stunt. http://crushable.com/entertainment/kristen-stewart-robert-pattinson-break-up-cheating-staged-682/

    • Dillinger910

      arade for 3 years. The movies would’ve done well without it and why go in depth to add rings?

    • Jenni

      Oh the relationship…not the stunt. When I started reading blind items a few years ago and read they were set up. Just look at everyone freaking out about them breaking up, it adds that extra depth that brings the story to life for so many fans.

      Lots of movies have faux-relationships for PR reasons. Like remember when Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn dated around The Break-Up? It adds intrigue to the movie to say “this is where they fell in love in real life.” It’s not necessary, but it never hurts.

    • Dillinger910

      Yeah I know what I’m seeing now is PR, but it makes me lose interest if the two were fake people, gaining fans under false pretences.

    • Jenni

      I feel like that’s what makes awesome and genuine celebs (as far as we know) so great to read about. Because they’re not playing the Hollywood game — and I think you can respect K.Stew because if what I wrote above is true, she wants out of the game.

    • Nena

      But she hasnt seemed like the type to play the game for years. I t just seems a lot to ask of people, and would be exhausting to do for 3 years, and why would they want to? Maybe it started like that but it seems like it was genuine, and don’t think they are that good of actors. And it could have been done with a lot less of a show, they didn’t have to go out that much or vacations or living together, visiting each others movie sites, gifts idk seems like a lot of work. And if it was fake why not just wait till aft BD2 was over?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I am sure it was and is real. I do think she is always ahead of him and challenges him.

    • nena

      they do seem good for each other.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Not a matter of “good”. It’s a matter of each supporting the Ohter in becoming what each can become.

    • nena

      your right

    • lillicat

      Jenni, could it be that it just became too much? My heart hurt for Rob and Kris every time they traveled commercial that the paps were in their faces screaming even in the middle of the night! Who wouldn’t keep their eyes don’t and look miserable if they had to deal with that.

    • nena

      I agree, but hopefully they can move past it. Maybe move to london to get away from the insanity of HW, that what I would do. Base themselves from there.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I would feel the same too. But I have no doubts that it is a real relationship. If he breaks with her over this, then he never really loved her and was caught up in Edward. the way Liz Taylor was caught in Virginia Woolfe. It happens. I believe Monroe is now permanent with MIchelle Williams after seeing The Next Waltz.

    • Guest

      Bella kissed Jacob, Edward didn’t break with her. Edward wouldn’t break with Bella unless she sent him away.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      No Edward didn’t and wouldn’t. But if the Edward interface dissolves with Rob then he might just because of image. I don’t think he has tho. There is a lot more to this that we could ever know.

    • lillicat

      Remember that Kris said in an interview with one of the fashion mags this Spring- Rob is not Edward Cullen. She then went on to say that she would go on long walks with Rob and the dogs and that she would be happy. Also Rob eluded to the Summit staged relationship at the start of Twilight in the Black Book interview. However, I feel that this “ruse” developed into a real relationship, and that they fell in love along the way. Rob told an interviewer that “the best thing a woman had ever said to him is that she loved him”. Kris told him that she loved him during the 2012 Comic Com panel. We may never know what happened. If they want to be together, I hold out hope that they will find a way- away from HW. They were looking for land before all this.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      I do too. Land is a wonderful dream. It is wonderful to have it. It requires a lot of looking after though and a lot of help to do it. that means managing help or having family and then that brings its own baggage. It is also isolating which is nice for awhile until you get cabin fever. But they can travel and work a lot, and someone will have to watch it.
      I really can’t imagine their breaking up over this. On the Eclipse commentary when Bella rides away with Jacob while Edward watches he says, “If she were my girlfriend I’d break up with her for that.” And Kristen says, “She’s allowed to have friends.” Then they get into the jokes about friends with tattoos so it fades into nothing. It was a spontaneous thing when he said it, but revealing because it was. He is a romantic and he is into possession. I don’t know I am just rambling off the top of my head, so pay no attention.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      That’s Jenni’s reading. It isn’t mine or many others. Many feel the relationship was/is real but that the “stunt” was PR. I don’t read it Jenni’s way either. I think it happened and then K and R went with the flow and used it to their advantage. I don’t think they correctly estimated the amount of hate out there for Kristen. But if it didn’t start as PR they didn’t have too many choices if they wanted to play it. They could have just stopped it cold in its tracks and then Liberty wouldn’t be profiting from it. So that can be seen as supporting Jenni’s reading.

    • nena

      who is the R? robert or rupert?

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      Rob.

    • Gosia

      I’m on a team “they love each other”
      We have never watched at this “cheating surf” from this side:
      Kristen worked with people who loved and respected her, so far.
      It was Abbeybooks that said (in other place) Sanders let her know what the directing is and let her feel as adult one but he was a ‘professor’ himself.
      Nobody noticed that Rupert Sanders, HER DIRECTOR, twice her age, behaved as it happen with the older-man-seduces-younger-woman-syndrome. Take out the word ‘director’, put in ‘professor’ and all will work.
      Why nobody figured out that it looks like professor seduceing student in way that take the young lady off guard?
      Stewart immediately apologized for the indiscretion, something uninexperienced young lady might do instead sb who would deny anything and everything.
      It’s known that no sex was involved (I belive that). All those threats… that dirt…. is it adequate to what had happened?

      I’ve searched some gossip places and now have some ideas, I will share with You but in a few hours; I have to do a few other things now.

    • nena

      who or what is sb?

    • Gosia

      I don’t mean about this stuff.
      You know people often say – “it wasn’t me…”, “I didn’t mean that…”, “you wrong, I wasn’t doing that…”.
      Now speculations
      I think it’s all over – all over that “cheating stuff”. PR people are just trying to “sweep and wash up the floor” now – they are paid for.
      Photos were staged if made at those places that were found in Internet.
      I think there are now 2 possibilities:
      1. They all knew about it – I doubt (seems Robert is too jealous)
      2. Only R knew (he’s looking toward camera a few times) so it’s a deal but with whom? and why? (third hand?)
      To show her that she’s not so beautiful and so pure, so innocent?
      (I think she has a lot of haters as she say what she thinks, her recently interviews about other actors…, paps hates her – see her pictures).
      She’s honest but not a pretty good girl.
      My theory about a kind of “seduce” – I think it works.
      She could not even realized she was seduced so feels guilty and don’t realize WHY she did what she did. How could she explain it to Rob if she couldn’t explain it to herself.
      (Once more I think that pics look much worse that it was in reality). Chosen and put in order to proof paps story.
      It’s proved they’ve lied like dogs (so many versions and when you get through them all impossible or doubtful).
      Is it so big deal worth almost five-years engagement? Don’t think so.
      Well but what’s happened it’s happened.
      Anyway remember that they both want to leave this “Twilight bubble” behind. This all is rather complicated and twisted the same as the live is, sometimes.
      I suppose they are together since her lonely journey around LA (or close to that).
      There’s been no REAL NEWS about her since then. Those pics with his cap – you know what I’m thinking of – done earlier than released.
      They were together durnig his interviews.
      He would be the stupidest asshole if he let her go and would deserve not to be with her anymore and she is really amazing, brave young lady. Sometimes lost but who isn’t?
      Look, she even protected him at public. Was he really humiliated? i don’t think so. She’s thrown herself under that bus.
      Such relationships don’t grow on trees or You don’t find them in the grass.
      I still think she won’t be at TIFF. They are both together somewhere if he is wise enough (I don’t doubt it).
      PR people are now working because he want to reach adult men’s audience. He should be “Macho” not a “Pussy”.
      He still don’t understand that if he did what I said he became a man.
      They sattle down in Europe (England) for a while. There is much more respect for privacy, not so much crazy paps.
      He is to work in Africa or Middle-East (Australia is both as far from US as from Europe).
      That’s what I wish them – all the best at work and private live.
      Remember – I was talking about Virtual Awatars not about Real People I don’t know at all.
      For me I wish to enjoy the art of their performances in next movies. That’s all

    • nena

      I do agree about their relationship. And yes we have no idea where she is and what she has been doing. I think it will show a strong kind sensitive guy if he is willing to take her back. Maybe they will move to london, they like it there and can still do movies from where ever.

    • nena

      too much overkill

  • S

    Well now it seems, that Katy P is being thrown into the mix more. Now,US weekly is reporting that katy likes RP and wouldnt mind dating him. Basically now, there could be Kat and Rob as a couple…eventually or,soon. Idk. I don’t even.know what to thinkanymore. PR stunt to break out of the bella &Edward umbrella. And or, a big FU to hollywood, from KS. Or maybe, they both just wanted to end things, but had to do it in this extreme way. Because, this would make fans realize these 2 are 100% over and there isn’t a chance they would get back together. You know, to squash the fans “hopes” for a reconcilliation, because maybe the relationship just ran it’s course. Or, maybe KS really did just cheat on him. Read that RP is selling his home now. Lainey has a post about the RP & KP story.

    • northGAgirl

      If you were as famous as KP and were friends or at least had hung out with RP and KS together would you be the ‘girl he dates after losing his love’…no way. I think this is a way for US Weekly to see mags….I also think this whole thing is made up. At this point how would one of the most photographed guys in Hollywood go to Soho House (a pretty popular location) and not have a picture taken of him inside or outside…weird.

    • nena

      yeah he has said that it was his favorite place, and if KP and RP were together wouldnt there have been tweets and pics?

    • s

      Soho house is a really exclusive place. I believe (I could be incorrect) that they don’t allow the workers to spill info on the the celebs who go there. It’s ultra private. I don’t even think anyone is allowed to take pics, like I said I could be wrong. It’s a place where celebs dont have to worry about pictures being taken etc. They can relax without being bothered.

    • nena

      yeah not inside but going in and out, there have been before of KS and RP

    • nena

      who is Lainey? not to be dumb, I think all this is just stories that the media are making up. The dinner between RP and KP was proven not true, but some media wont let it die. I still think this is way overkill just to end a relationship, especially before BD2 comes out because people are going to see them together for the promos, if it was to end the relationship wouldnt it be better to do it after the promos because then they would never have to see each other again, but again it seem like overkill, just wait til BD2 is over, quick blurb on tmz or something that they broke up, then nothing more would be written about them as a couple, they go their seperate ways and are free to see other people. If the fan girls cared who would really know about it, they are making adult movies now so the little girls cant go see them, Done

    • s

      Lainey Gossip. I agree with what your saying. Maybe it is really just a cheating scandal, that got blown out of proportion. But everyone knows, amything having to do with RP, KS, Twilight…will always be blown out of proportion, regardless of,what it is.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Lainey puts a very nasty vitriolic anti-Kristen spin on all her posts about this story. So remember that is where she is coming from.

    • S

      She use to like KS ( I thought)…. I know she thought it was stupid forKS to issue a public apology/statement, in light of the scandal. I know alot of people said KS should not have done that. I just don’t understand what the problem is, that she did.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      I don’t either, understand the prob. with the apology.

    • nena

      I dont think she cheated, too many things so way off to be that. And obviously dont think it was to break up. It has to be to get the media off their back and to say FU to them, RP movie has done ok and he has 3 more in the works,KS maybe wants to just do indie and charity stuff, maybe RP and KS did need a break, LS is getting movie scripts and RP has another movie to direct. I think this makes the most sense to me, anyone anyone else

    • Irish Girl

      *eyeroll* My opinion? The Katy Perry story is sheer desperation on the part of the tabs. See, Pattinson and Stewart have gone dark again. Incommunicado, Incognito, Invisible…so they (magazines, blogs, gossips) don’t have a clue what’s going on and it’s driving them crazy. So they make stuff up. Or they take a small piece of truth and make it into something so big, an aircraft carrier could drive through it.

    • http://profiles.google.com/holly.slavic Aitch Slavic

      Oh Robert will be shipped with many women now–esp. as RP and KS are underground and the sites need this story to keep going.

  • s

    Jenni, I was wondering what your thought on Gossip Cop are? I know that is where they, tell what gossip is true or not true. But isn’t Gossip Cop publicist friendly? And don’t publicist lie anyway too, to protect their client? It seems as all the publicist has to do it tell GC,” that rumor isn’t true, it’s false” (when actually it could be or it is). And all GC does is put out a post saying “GC has reached out to source close to the celeb or rep and they confirm it isn’t true”. There you go, “it’s not true” I could be wrong, but that’s my take on it.

    • Jenni

      I like the concept of Gossip Cop, but disproving rumors with publicists is nonsensical to me. Of course a celeb’s publicist/close friend/source will say a harmful rumor’s false.

    • Irish Girl

      …wait, are you maligning publicists? We’re not ALL glorified mouthpieces. *hmph*

    • Jenni

      My publicist says maligning ALL publicists was a bad idea. So in light of what she thinks and in light of what my manager says, I apologize for my statement.

    • Irish Girl

      Well said. I would have worded it exactly the same way.

  • nena

    JENNI help, my dumb computer was being weird please get rid of all but 1 of each of my posts!!!! I would but cant figure out how,Im so embarrassed

  • S

    Since there has been a dry spell of RP & KS legit or whatever gossip/stories, here is one I just read (and I knew something as predictable as this was coming). Anyway…..RP sisters do not want to him to take KS back at all. I just read this (and I don’t need people telling me the very obvious “you can’t believe everything you read” crap, etc.. I know this) Just thought I’d mention it regardless, because this dry spell is killing me lol

    • nena

      I read that also, wow. I cant believe we havent seen anything about whether they had their meeting or not. They could print out so much made up crap about that. RP and KS meet and RP throws KS out of house bla bla bla!!! Come on media dont tell us you have lost your edge!!! Was a good article from Huffington post I think about all the trashing KS has received isnt good for young girls

    • s

      That story is believable actually…..IF this scandal isn’t a PR stunt in anyway. I’m actually starting to believe this wasn’t a PR stunt at all. Just a stupid choice on KS to decide to cheat out in the wide open, during the day at a very public spot. But I don’t care if she cheated, I still like her regardless. What she does in her “personal” life, doesn’t stop me from going to see her movies. Hopefully, IF this is a stunt, something comes out to help her with all hate she is getting. That something good happens for her. A big F U to all the haters.

    • nena

      still dont think she is that dumb to do it in public, RS looked to calm and she to uncomfortable. So maybe not a PR stunt but a setup by RS? i dont think it is as simple as her being dumb. If she wanted to screw things up wait until aft BD2 comes out

    • nena

      The bad thing about giving someone advice about whether to get back together with some one or not is that if you trash the person ad then they do get back together then you look stupid and trashed the person they love, so keep opinions to self