10 Things Kristen Stewart Is Saying No To (Besides Red Carpet Sex) With Rupert Sanders In This .Gif

Kristen Stewart saying "no" Rupert Sanders red carpet .gif Liberty Ross

I’m fascinated by this .gif of Kristen Stewart and her alleged older, married lover Rupert Sanders at the Snow White and the Huntsman premiere this past June. As Gawker points out, it looks like Sanders has approached his lovely little vampire squeeze, only for her to clearly put the kibosh on any red-carpet canoodling with a firm “Stop.”

Now, if you buy into the theory that Kristen was indeed fooling around with Rupert for months, it certainly looks as if they’re having an intimate moment on the red carpet. Perhaps he went in for a kiss and she decided it was too risky. Maybe they’re arguing over how he has two kids and a doting wife in Liberty Ross, or he’s ragging on her boyfriend Robert Pattinson‘s greasy hair. But because we’re still convinced this is just a big publicity stunt to split up and then reunite Bella and Edward in time for Breaking Dawn, Part 2 in November, we’ve come up with ten completely non-sexual reasons why Kristen is shutting Rupert down with a “bitch please”:

10. He said that Charlize Theron isn’t all that sexy.

9. He didn’t like The Avengers‘ shwarma scene.

8. He offered to get her popcorn for the premiere, but he went with extra butter.

7. He suggested that maybe the Arrested Development movie isn’t happening since we hadn’t seen any set photos yet.

6. He showed her his Volturi impression.

5. He thinks Taylor Kitsch should totally play Finnick Odair in Catching Fire.

4. He asked her advice on what would be the best engagement gift for Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth. 

3. He threw out a “YOLO.”

2. He thinks he’s totally a Jessa.

1. He brought up that awkward moment where K. Stew made out with herself at the MTV Movie Awards.

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.gif: treeprettyphotos on Tumblr (check it out for a lot more .gifs!) via Gawker

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    • Danielle

      I do wish we could really know what she was saying stop to….but I guess we never will.

      • Natalie Zutter

        I know! I keep staring at the .gif trying to get a hint from his body language…

    • jo

      Shit… I want to know!!!!!!!! If you see the little video on Youtube, Rupert says yes! with his right arm and hand, you know that movement, maybe she said something like “Rupi, dry humping, blowjobs, handjobs, licking everywhere and kisses later, aaaannnndddd maybe if you’re good enough, you can have the real thing, you know what I mean baby…” hahaha!

      • Jenni Maier

        Dry humping shouldn’t be allowed past the age of 12.

    • http://robinvandam1.tumblr.com/ Robin Van Dam

      LMAO! I tweeted…of course! Love your articles!

    • nena

      maybe he had been trying to come on to her for a short while and she wasnt having any of it. So maybe he did stop so when he called her that day he said he needed to talk about SWATH2 or something and she was caught off guard.

    • Petranella

      I don’t know what the hell it is, but she could be talking about her shoes which he just finished helping her with, and Rupert was able to catch a bit of a feel in there while doing so. I think his movements in this video may be more revealing than hers!

    • jenna

      It’s so obvious and if you all weren’t so biased you’d see. This is when Kristen hurt her foot. He asking her if she’s ok. She’s saying no, I’m fine. Would probably help if you saw the whole exchange instead of this one second giff.
      @Aitch Slavic – they both caught a feel. Watch Kristen run her hand down his back. Rupert’s a pro at this apparently because there is another shot where he’s rubbing his hand up and down liberty’s ass. Course she’s his wife so …

      • Petranella

        yes, I just noticed this gif did not have the whole thing where his arm and hand get snuggly around KS and her waist. Not sure what you mean by “biased.”
        Yeah, I think they are experiencing the attraction by now. But KS is able to keep a lot close to the vest too. I don’t recall the hand down the back but she grips onto his neck pretty firmly.

      • jenna

        “his arm and hand get snuggly around KS and her waist.” < —- That's what I mean by bias. Yes, his arm was around her waist AND her arm was on his shoulder and down his back. It works both ways. Neither of them are monsters and neither are saints. I don't see a slut or a predator here. I see two people who selfishly let circumstances get the better of them and are both probably kicking themselves over it. Happens all the time. The thing with infatuations is they are really hard to hide. You think you're being so discreet when in actuality everyone knows what's up.

      • Petranella

        OK Jenna, thnx for answering me again! And I agree with you. We don’t have to make RS a sick predator and KS doesn’t have to be an amoral slut either.
        I just never saw her hand up and down his back–which would be like “stroking” I’m trying to find the whole thing on youtube but many of the vids put a bunch of other crap in there I don’t want to post those. I will keep looking though.

      • jenna

        It’s cool. People are still so wacked about this you never know if you’re talking to a sane person or not. Feels like The Body Snatchers lol
        I hate to say it but I think I saw her hand down his back in another gif posted by an obvious Kristen hater. There’s a youtube vid that’s easy to find which shows her hand on his shoulder first, then he puts his hand around her waist, then does the boxing move, but the camera moves away before you see her hand. Rupert was always talking about how tough KS is, so probably that’s what he was getting at. What a trooper with the twisted ankle, right? It’s a little flirty for sure. And uncomfortable to think they were enjoying an excuse for a little closeness with Rob and Liberty both right there. Your name is familiar. HollywoodLife?

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I think she really truly likes him and respects him and loves working with him. Of course there will be sexual tension in those circumstances. As with a professor and his student. It’s always there and felt even more if not acted upon.

      • Petranella

        It was likely a mentor and protege relationship, those can turn sexual and it doesn’t mean the individuals involved are “bad” malicious people with evil intent.

      • jenna

        Just guessing but kristen I think has some self esteem issues. Reading her stories about being bullied by girls in school – the pretty ones calling her ugly, making fun of her unshaved legs, her tomboy clothes. She felt and looked like a boy, she said. Sometimes girls who lack confidence in their feminine beauty feel the need to one up other women. If you were lacking confidence like that, imagine how great it would be to win over the husband of a fashion model. Liberty is a princess girl, yk? Very feminine, very pretty, very girly. So essentially Kristen stole the bf of that bitchy girl in school who made fun of her. But that doesn’t make Kristen a monster. That makes her human. And makes me another useless armchair psychologist.

      • Petranella

        And I think her body image of looking like a boy–feeling like her body looks like a boy, may be (idk for sure, just guessing as you are) is something she carried into her young womanhood–as many of us females do. Plus HW is enamored with big boobs type bodies.– Kristen has only been wearing and appearing sexy designer dresses, major fashion layouts for a “relatively” short time-but this doesn’t mean she has felt “sexy” or “beautiful” or “womanly” on the inside. You can still be carrying around in your head and your old self image–what you felt like as a young awkward bullied not developed girl. I know this from my life and that of my gfs- but I have read numerous accounts from beautiful models who say the same. So perhaps Rupert made her feel beautiful, sexy and womanly; he is a mature adult male–Would this not be a “heady” intoxicating feeling- to receive this type of validation? (Plus we have numerous videos of RS on video saying that she is “beautiful”– I think Rupert has a “type” and KS is his “type”–Look at photos of LR when she was around 19 years)

      • jenna

        Totally agree. Underneath the beautiful new Balenciaga clothes, an awkward tomboy still remains. She’s just 22 so those meangirl school scars are relatively fresh. Rupert’s a connoisseur of beauty in all forms. He’s obviously visually orientated in the extreme. He talked about Charlize’s beauty quite a lot too but of course people don’t take notice of that because there was no affair. Said she was “beauty and power personified”, talked about how he was overwhelmed and speechless when they first met because she was so beautiful.and impressive. So this guy with the beautiful model at home starts telling you you’re beautiful too? Pays you all that attention, all but grovelling at your feet? Sure as hell she fell for that. Was just what she needed to hear. I think Rupert ‘reads’ people very well. Scary well. He read Kristen and knew just where she hurt. He’s a sucker for that kind of sob story.Liberty and Kristen have a vaguely similar look, I agree. But their personalities are at opposite ends, which is interesting if you think about it. Besides being Englishmen, Rob and Rupert seem to be light years apart, too.Anyway, it sounds like a perfect storm of circumstances brought them together. I feel bad for both couples tbh

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Stewart is playing with androgyny. See her interview with Sanders in the brown jacket and at SWATH premiere where she has on black jacket. She knows what she is doing. She has never believed she was a child. I have known children who didn’t believe they were children. Fassbinder the great German filmmaker said he was maing all his own decisions by age 4. His parents were Rudolph Steiner desciples.

      • Petranella

        I agree She plays with androgyny. And so does Rob.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        yes he does.

      • jenna

        I don’t believe Kristen “knows what she is doing”, no. She doesn’t seem to me to be a particularly self aware creature.Too implusive and intuitive for that. I do agree about not feeling she was a child. Interesting people those are. Emotionally immature though, in my experience, as the normal maturation process doesen’t happen as it should. Selfishness and lack of consideration are often are problem, as well. A sort ofevery man for himself and devil take the hindmost mentality.
        My grandfather was a Steiner disciple. Don’t get me started! I will say that in the Steiner community, a 4 year old who makes their own decisions would be considered extremely undesirable. Intellectual, self conscious awakening too early is to be avoided at all costs. The emotional life and willpower would suffer.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Obviously Fassbinder is the exception proving them and you wrong. He is considered one of the greatest filmmakers ever. He left a body of work at 29 which was the envy of every filmmaker. And yes I know you are going to bring up his overdose death to bolster your argument. This post is exactly why you are dead wrong about Kristen : http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/09/kristen-auditions-for-furious-in.html

      • Gosia

        Sorry I doubt it, it’s too long shut, lack of understanding with girls in the same age and stealing model’s husband. She just was different. There was an inside conflict in her. All teens mainly want to resemble each other, the same as children. Children hate to be different from others, they want to blend in children society. She was strange for other teens, she felt she loved it and in the same time was afraid of it. She was too young to have her inside power to be against main stream of teens. Girls in her age were still in “blending years” she was inside older (in years of difference).

      • jenna

        kristen admitted she was deeply hurt by the girls who taunted her. As well she should have been – they assaulted her burgoning sexuality, they belittled her feminine power just as it was awakening. Now she needs to make amends. But I’m not suggesting she intentinally lured Rupert away to avenge an old schoolyard hurt. These things happen unconciously. I doubt Kristen made the connection. I also doubt she realizes why she’s drawn into the fashion world – something that surprised even Rob.

      • Gosia

        Well yes, to ensure yourself she can be a mystical woman – “a butterfly”. Mystical and untouchable though Abbeysbooks say no.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I didn’t mean what you think I said. I think Kristen is becoming one of the great actresses of her generation. Her technique is different but absolutely perfect for her. I agree just anyone shouldn’t feel they have the right to touch her, but her friends, and Rupert was her friend, easily can assume that familiarity. I don’t regard her as a victim at all. Just a beautiful fascinating woman who was the object of desire. What is so terrible about that. It wasn’t the first time in her life and it won’t be the last time. Men will always flirt with her. And she will flirt back. Same with Rob. It just says, “Yes I find you attractive.” But it also says, “I am promised to another.” Or not as the case may be.

      • Gosia

        Thank you.
        I think they both will be great actors but so far she’s better than him. He needs skilling with good directors and I hope he will.
        Once I’ve heard an on line interview – Robert was talking with fan. At the end he said: I wish you a good life.
        I wish them both a good life, and hope they will be together because they can create terrifying tandem helping each other.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Psychologizing falls into interpretation. Read Susan Sontag’s Against Interpretation: and other essays. The one on camp is in there too. All twilight is pure camp and only David Slade got it. Soon everyone will at the midnight movies. Bella and Edward are pure camp if you read it that way.

      • jenna

        I have read it and I agree with much of it, however we’re not analyzing Kristen’s work, we’re discussing possible psychological motivations behind her actions. Even artists are not immune to a psychological scar and its aftermath.
        :) And I’ve spared myself Twilight.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Psychological interpretations are over. Sontag’s Against Interpretation and foucault’s Beyond Structuralism and Hermeneutics and his Mental Illness and Psychology has put that baby to bed. Permanently. Read through Lacan and “floating signs” and Zizek to be relevant. I am assuming you want to move up, not stay forever with crushable.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It didn’t used to be acted on as a rule. Now the professor is really constrained, almost as a gyn is doing an exam so as not to be alone with a student in circumstances that could be interpreted in a way he or she would rather not have to deal with. A shame. It constrains things.

      • jenna

        It was acted on plenty. And constrained or not, it’s still acted on. My roommate last year had a fling with a married asst prof and a former friend had one first year. That prof ended up divorced and fired and the girl walked away without a scratch. Basically she was attracted to the challenge of it. Crazy to see so many people wondering how kristen could be attracted to an older man when it happens so often.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Yes the way they call him an old man. I think he’s sexy. And accomplished in his field and looking for more. The ones that think that way are “old” conscious. How they will hate themselves when they age. Fear of death.

      • jenna

        Sure, it’s frightening. “old conscious” has always been the domain of kids but it’s crept into the mentality of those who should know better. He’s 41, not 70. In fact, I think he looks young for his age. Liberty is 33 – that’s old enough to be traded in for a younger model? Irony is that this is the Hollywood culture. So it’s being shoved back in his face. Fear of death is an issue for Rupert, imo. A major one. Fear of death and fear of abandonment.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I was thinking that because of Snow White. since then I think much differently since talking to my hard core gaming bf. Dead or Alive Extreme 2; Halo; Sexual role playing. Liberty; Rupert. It gets very sticky. Wait on that.

        But the dirty little secret of Snow white has not escaped any of them: Snow White Deconstructed: http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/08/snow-white-fairy-tale-deconstructed.html?zx=bd0346b5086ff272

      • jenna

        That observation is based mostly on interviews I’ve read. I’m a film major so am always reading industry mags and sites. Rupert’s been in them for years due to his highly successful ad work. SWATH interviews confirmed it for me because he so strongly attached himself to death issues within the fairy tale. I’ve seen the fetish film of Liberty’s, if that’s what you mean. Pretty tame as those things go but nicely done, I thought. This is your blog? I’ll have a look.

      • jenna

        Nice work on this! Short and simple but spot on. Trouble usually comes when we access these ancent archetypes. That’s powerful magic Rupert was playing with.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Maybe you might want to write with me. I have this one also: http://moviesandfilm.blogspot.com

      • Petranella

        He looks like an old man to the teenage fangirls.

      • jenn

        He’s daddy to the teen fangirls. Incestuous daddy.

      • Petranella

        well they really hate him that’s for sure.

      • jenna

        He destroyed their precious Robsten, like a father who forbids his teenage daughter to see her bf. I joke but the long slow process of growing up isn’t easy so my heart goes out to them. They’re dreams have been torn apart.

      • Petranella

        yes, I meant to add that. They blame him for breaking apart Robsten. Aside from Kristen’s “affair” R/K undoubtedly had normal human problems in their relationship like ALL human couples do!

      • jenna

        Yes, indeed. All couples. But the young ones need to believe in their innocent dreams of true, unblemished love. Experience hasn’t yet educated them. The older ones, the ones ordinary life has dragged down into the doldrums, they want so much to believe in their young dreams again. True love … yk, that’s a hard road to walk. I wouldn’t wish true love on my worst enemy.

      • Petranella

        I don’t know if true love exists, because I am not clear on how I define it. I do know that there is a deeply human need for companionship; to not always feel alone on the journey.

      • Gosia

        Agree. That’s why I got married. I never could define what the love is, so I think I never met one or I better like not to remember.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Why do the young need to believe in that? Anais Nin wrote about the poison in fairy tales. Like children need to be sheltered from the truth? No I don’t think so.

      • Petranella

        Because we are still raised to believe that True Love, oor Prince, our White Knight, fill in the many other titles to give it– is going to appear and give us never ending fulfillment. Hollywood movies, soap operas, romance novels–all the common pop culture female narrative story-telling that many of us paid attention to growing up and still pay attention to. !!!!

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        The point is who is raising their children to believe in that? And why?

      • Gosia

        Agree

      • Gosia

        Don’t say about fairy tales. My grandma used to tell me fairy tales before I got sleep they were horrible. Have you ever heard (I think you have) original versions of all those nice fairy tales. Those ones I’ve been told were more horrifying than “Friday 13″.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        They are scary and all dressed in silk and furs eh. Why I liked Pinkola Estes and the Trials inherent in them for the girl. She concentrates on girls. Women Who Run With The Wolves.

        Bettleheim is deeper and darker. I do like him very much.

      • jenna

        Need as in desire desperately rather than require. I don’t believe there is poison in fairytales. Not at all. Perhaps in modern interpretation of them. Certainly in Disney’s retelling. Fairytales belong to the kingdom of childhood. They are pictoral, as a child’s mind is pictoral. They’re what remains of an age when we were all more intuitive and visual, less intellectual.
        What is truth?

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        You’re with Bettelheim. I was quoting Nin. Pinkola Estes regards them as a Trial that must be mastered in the unconscious. But clearly the prince will come, love me and make me happy for the rest of my life seems to be what these fangirls have embedded in their minds.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        robsten is a simulacrum. A simulacrum is a copy of a copy without an original. A simulacrum exists in simulated reality. It is smashed now. A blessing.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        They had a real relationship not a robsten one. robsten is a simulacrum.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Fathers often are not conscious of their incestuous desires for their teen daughters. It can easily turn into its opposite where they beat her for being a “slut”, slut being defined by them.

      • Petranella

        yeah, all too common in life and common in literature, Myth and film.

      • jenna

        exactly.
        Watching these teen girls call Rupert a creep and pervert is …. amusing if not a bit uncomfortable. Time travelling to Salem here. All this depsite the fact that Kristen herself obviously liked the guy, spoke highly of him at every opportunity. Hysterical. Most interesting to hear “child molester” thrown about too.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        They’re sick puppies.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        But what if he didn’t do it? Since he was photoshopped in to all the pics by the fence. And he was.

      • Gosia

        What to do with this. In what a way to show it, most of people doesn’t won’t to hear about pics one more.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Well they must be interested because my hits are waaaaaay up on it. Needs to be tweeted a lot all the time. People who know the facts will still believe what they want.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I just lost them all.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        yes. i think so.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Because they are not the recipient of his seduction. And Rob makes himself so available to them. Rupert would never do that.

      • Gosia

        Yes some people cannot accept getting older.
        You know my father is 92 years old and it’s still difficult to him to accept aging. He say like “I’m the same as I used to be in my youth, I’m only physically weak” but it’s not the truth.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        She was having him on. David Mamet wrote a play about it. It’s like now children know they can ruin you by saying you did sexual things with them. They know this and they do it. They lie and they ruin a life. All these “legal protections” cut both ways.

      • Petranella

        That is not something that happens with great frequency. Things like sexual matters involving children used to happen and no one dare talk about it. It was closeted by society and many many were harmed seriously.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It happens more than anyone thinks. Only it is hidden. And there is still lots of sexual abuse with children. That’s hidden too.The more information we have the less we really know.

      • Petranella

        It used to happen with no one to talk with or turn to. At least there is more willingness to be open about it,

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        And that has its downside too. Now children plan how to ruin someone by getting together on it.

        Vija Kinski: There is no outside.

      • jenna

        Yes, that scenario was quite similar. She knew he would bear the brunt of blame, and she played up the “poor little girl was abused by the older man” sympathy she received.
        To clarify: I don’t believe this was the case with Kristen and Rupert. Although Kristen’s PR team is clearly taking advantage of that time honored strategy.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I don’t think she played it up. What punched her down was the photoshopped fake pictures by the fence. Who would hate me so much as to do that?

      • Petranella

        JAbbey: It is because of the power imbalance inherent in these relationships- there is too much danger in the “mentor” or professor using and abusing his or her power over the younger/protege. It should not be appropriate in schools and Universitys for one basic reason:–so-and so got an A on their thesis cause they slept with the professor–another poor schlub did not. Oh so and so is now a Teaching assistant because they slept with the professor–not cool or fair.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I don’t agree with all of it. The young girl has a lot of power as a woman. She can say yes. Or no. It is a feminine Other thing. Yes the prof has other powers to retaliate or gifts to bestow. In my case only looking back can I see the unconscious attraction of male profs to the boy grad students, who traditionally got all the favors no matter how much they liked you as a woman. They just felt the guys were going to be more serious professionally and bring greater honor to them later on. It happened to me. All my research “stolen” from me. Those dots in the newspaper that if you look long enough at form a design? That was mine.

      • Petranella

        You mean those “Ben Day” dots?!

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        The dots came out of Julesz(?sp)work at Bell Labs. Dot matrices. Doing them on a typewriter was awful. One mistake and you had to start over. So I did it differently and my office mate stole it. I saw an art book once using the technique but have never seen it since. Usually you just see the Sunday comic dot ones. Ben Day? IDK about them.

      • Petranella

        Ben day dots–that Lichtenstein made famous “borrowed” with his cartoon Pop Art.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        No. Not the same. But I can see the resonance.

      • Petranella

        Sue their asses.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Yes now. But in 1965 when you are dropped from the PhD program? Not likely when you have to deal with life in a different world at that time.

      • Petranella

        I am so sorry. That is really just horrible!

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It was. “But better things came together.”

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        People get A’s for all sorts of reasons having nothing to do with sex or attraction. Certain grad students are “pushed” because they know how to write grants and get money, and that will determine your success more than anything else. It’s not just what the PC feminists say.

      • Petranella

        yeah I know all that. I am making a point that there are inherent problems in a mentor protege or Prof. Student relationship as well as it being a “normal human” reaction. It is not problem free as with all human relationships.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I don’t see why it is a problem. It is a natural occurence and there were rituals for it that are all screwed up now with legalities, which really don’t protect you and cause much more damage.

      • Petranella

        Because society doesn’t know how to handle it with the radical changes in ritual and behaviors between male and female–family, husband, wife, Many traditional roles are still breaking down even further, Society and individuals don’t have it all figured out yet.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Ah Toynbee’s Disintegration o f Civilizations.

      • Petranella

        you crack me up woman. and I would like to throttle you.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I read Toynbee for two years and afterwards was ready to die. I mean when you are old, reading Toynbee and get to the Disintegration of Civilizations part, you know you are in a civilization that is disintegrating and there’s nothing to be done, you are more than depressed. You cannot stop it, fix it, do anything at all about it. So what do you do? Die!

      • jenna

        ^ this +1000

      • nataliecrush

        I like this viewpoint! First time I’ve heard it, but the mentor-protege idea makes a lot of sense.

      • jenna

        I’ve seen so many students develop crushes on their profs. That’s what it looked like to me. At least on her end. Maybe something different with him.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I certainly has crushes on my professors in grad school. We fraternized a lot. Now it would be dangerous.

      • Petranella

        On his end too imo.

      • Petranella

        University is the most salient and common example of this but think about any world where you have the more experienced with the less experienced. And it is NOT always sexual but can turn this way certainly.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        The Greeks knew this and had formalized rituals for it. It exists and no laws are going to get rid of it. Ridiculous. Challenge, risk, life not survival, love not porno,,the Order of Seduction. The culture wants to reduce everything to the Order of Production. What Cosmopolis was about. I would still prefer it the way it was even tho I got caught in it.

      • Gosia

        You know, I don’t see anything wrong with this video (but I’m usually blind). Yes I see he tries to be around her but it seems to me she’s saying “NO” (well what does it mean?) after changing heels to snikers and this dress…, of course she needed help to get on stage. I never, never liked her in this dress. It’s awful. Charlize Theron… she had a beautiful one there.
        Yes she was respectful to Rupert as to professor, mentor but for me her body language’s told him “keep distance”. You say she’s easily leaning on his arm while changing shoes but it’s the only good position to keep balance.
        They were working together, they are friends (it was said that when Rob visited her, they were in Rupert’s home). Rupert was like family friend.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I don’t see anything wrong either. Fans of Kristen are just projecting. Doing the same thing KS haters are doing. What’s the diff?

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It’s a dress that is not a dress. A dress made for simulated reality on Red Carpet. A costume for a game.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It was said………how would u kno?

      • Gosia

        What was said?

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        I think it was all the stuff about Sanders coming on to Kristen at the premiere and everyone reading him as a predator in the video and the gif sound bite. I mean have you seen the gifs of Stewart and Sanders at the wall. Disgusting. You can make a gif say whatever you want it to say even more so than the photo. I’m giving up on these comment boards. They make me crazy.

      • Gosia

        No, I saw video. It doesn’t change my point of view. I know you think about kind of sexual tension between them. Sorry it means nothing to me. There is a line. The thin, red one and I don’t see Kristen crossing it. She seemed to fill his tension and she looked at him icy with surprise. It’s enough for me.
        It was him who crossed it so he was predator. He did it but not on premiere day.
        I guess you would like to call a predator only man without conscious. I rather see people as grey (little black and little white). We can’t cross the line. It’s our choice. There are excerptions as usual but responsible is always person taking action.
        I still think he could have crossed this line not the only once.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        That he was openly hitting on her. I don’t see it. They are good friends.

      • Gosia

        Yes, exactly but there was something that Kristen nailed, she eyed him up and down without approval (probably my projection).

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Gosia how can you know that! You are projecting! Not fair. I have come to the conclusion that he also was framed. The pics by the fence never took place.

      • Gosia

        You are probably right but don’t you see how she eyed him? It’s slight, I would never say he was hitting on her then.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Look at how she eyes him at the premiere of SWATH? http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/2012/08/another-snow-white-premiere.html Kristen is a beautiful seductive playful woman who happens to be very sexy.

      • Gosia

        Yes, but is it her fault? She’s like a beautiful butterfly, but no touching allowed. World would be worth nothing without desires.
        He hurt her badly and she did hurt herself as well.
        I’m sure she’ll be able to control such situation from now on.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It’s no one’s fault. No blame at all. Of course she touches, she touched the guy who helped her up the stage, she touched the guy she met on the stage. She touches. She is touched. She looks. She is looked at. What is the big deal.

      • Gosia

        Yes, butterfly can touch everything but it shouldn’t be touched. It can be destroyed.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        Now that would be sad if she couldn’t be touched. What is she? An object, a commodity that you can just look at? A thing too precious to be touched?

      • Gosia

        I didn’t mean exactly, that she can’t interact with people but she should be respected as a woman, and find other way to feel a real life as a human being.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        You saw the premiere pic. Not slight.

      • Gosia

        I saw video not pic and not gif. Her action was slight but I really was focused on her so I can project.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        You and I are just projecting. Not false and not true. Just projection.

      • Gosia

        OK agree.

      • Gosia

        How to shout it out

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It’s complicated. Have to talk in email.

      • Gosia

        Where to put you my email?

      • jenna

        That Kristen became a “family friend” (dinner at the Sanders’, befriending thei children, etc) is what has so offended some women. It suggests a certain coldness, something treachrous.

      • Gosia

        Yes I know K/R is not a family but they both know R/L. It made Kristen be a family friend to R/L. Robert when he visited Kristen was invited to R/L home as well.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        In Japan someone has to be a very dear and treasured friend to be invited into the home. Japanese men do all their social meetings at “clubs” with hostesses. Americans are quite different. YOu invite people to come into your home that you don’t know very well. Have them for a dinner. And jon a movie set it’s like a temporary family. But this doesn’t mean that they are your friends. Friends are quite rare. Acquaintances are many. That’s all they were, just acquaintances. I am sure Liberty entertained the cast many times for company.

    • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

      You all are as bad as the haters who tramp on Kristen for the car pictures. You can’t have it both ways.

    • jenna

      gifs are like soundbites.They don’t tell the whole story. This vid offers a little context. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vye8MT12bBg

      • Petranella

        Oh good find Jenna! Like the other vid.–too many people block us from having an unobstructed view! lol.
        Yes, Kristen does “lean” on Rupert quite a bit, and the hand waving thing–almost certainly he has offered to help her up the stairs and she is waving–no don’t need help. I think!

      • jenna

        Yes, that was my take. Notice his hands crossed behind his back? Poor guy’s trying so hard to control himself lol Rather than just remove her hand, it glides down his shoulder and arm. Also, she takes his hand as he helps her to the stage. I’m half expecting him to pull a Raleigh and lay his coat at her feet. Wondering if Rob or Liberty saw this exchange ….

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        u can bet the farm Liberty did.

      • jenna

        I don’t know if I would. Rob was there but did not walk the carpet, did no interviews. He would not have been distracted, he had the opportunity to watch. Liberty did do interviews, signed autographs. Her attention may well have been elsewhere. That said, it is difficult to believe she didn’t eventually come to suspect Rupert and Kristen’s attraction. It’s always hard to believe the old adage of the wife being the last to know, but it’s strangely often the case. One early report said Liberty suspected an affair but told herself Rupert was too busy to invest the time, and did not even remotely suspect it was Kristen. I can almost believe that. It’s so typical.

      • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

        It’s possible.

      • nataliecrush

        Wow, you’re right! In that context, it looks like they’re just joking around and there’s no sexual tension at all.

      • jenna

        The popular accusation your gif supposedly proves isn’t about of sexual tension, it’s that Kristen is telling a predator, “no, go away.” More supposed proof kristen was overwhelmed by a bullying, manipulative child molester, right? I think the full video proves the “no, go away” theory isn’t likely true. He’s joking with her about being tough, she’s telling him she’s fine. Sexual tension issues are another story.

      • nataliecrush

        Ohh, see before this comment thread I hadn’t heard the sexual predator angle. Reading through the comments, I see that a lot of you subscribe to that. I’m not sure I’d agree with that. Yes, she’s rather young at 22, but it’s also not like she’s a teenager. I could see why she’d be attracted to an older guy; I find it hard to believe that he’d manipulate her. But I haven’t done the same levels of research that a lot of fans have, of course.